Update from 10158 to 10162 fails consistently

I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails with a
code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as follows :=
0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the suggestion of
inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still fails having
reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to update using the
download ISO file. Any suggestions?

Oldster wrote:
I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails with
a code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as follows :=
0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the suggestion of
inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still fails having
reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to update using the
download ISO file. Any suggestions?


Try some Win8 techniques with DISM ? Note that Windows 7 only
does one of these, and not the others. On Windows 7 there
is a SURCheck download, for doing repairs.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

That code seems "unusual". Is this a dialog that pops up ?
Where do you see the code ? I would have expected 0x8 style
code. I don't think they've run out of numbers :-)

Paul

On 05/07/2015 23:51, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails
with a code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as
follows := 0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the
suggestion of inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still
fails having reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to
update using the download ISO file. Any suggestions?


Try some Win8 techniques with DISM ? Note that Windows 7 only
does one of these, and not the others. On Windows 7 there
is a SURCheck download, for doing repairs.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html


Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

That code seems "unusual". Is this a dialog that pops up ?
Where do you see the code ? I would have expected 0x8 style
code. I don't think they've run out of numbers :-)

Paul
After digging even deeper holes after the Dism stuff, I've gone back
to an archive I had of the 10130 version. I'll see how it goes from
there skipping 10158/9
That strange code appeared after trying the update from the ISO DVD, and
after the failure the recovery to the 10158 version. There were also a
few words "First Boot error during SYSPREP" . The actual update failure
occurred during the "Install features and drivers" part of the update
.... approx 40% of the update.

On 06/07/2015 12:54, Oldster wrote:
On 05/07/2015 23:51, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails
with a code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as
follows := 0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the
suggestion of inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still
fails having reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to
update using the download ISO file. Any suggestions?


Try some Win8 techniques with DISM ? Note that Windows 7 only
does one of these, and not the others. On Windows 7 there
is a SURCheck download, for doing repairs.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html



Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

That code seems "unusual". Is this a dialog that pops up ?
Where do you see the code ? I would have expected 0x8 style
code. I don't think they've run out of numbers :-)

Paul
After digging even deeper holes after the Dism stuff, I've gone back
to an archive I had of the 10130 version. I'll see how it goes from
there skipping 10158/9
That strange code appeared after trying the update from the ISO DVD, and
after the failure the recovery to the 10158 version. There were also a
few words "First Boot error during SYSPREP" . The actual update failure
occurred during the "Install features and drivers" part of the update
... approx 40% of the update.


So even that has failed. Seems this update does not like this laptop,
or perhaps some of the other software installed. I will try and do a
clean install on s new disc tomorrow.

On 06/07/2015 19:02, Oldster wrote:
On 06/07/2015 12:54, Oldster wrote:
On 05/07/2015 23:51, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails
with a code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as
follows := 0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the
suggestion of inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still
fails having reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to
update using the download ISO file. Any suggestions?


Try some Win8 techniques with DISM ? Note that Windows 7 only
does one of these, and not the others. On Windows 7 there
is a SURCheck download, for doing repairs.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html




Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

That code seems "unusual". Is this a dialog that pops up ?
Where do you see the code ? I would have expected 0x8 style
code. I don't think they've run out of numbers :-)

Paul
After digging even deeper holes after the Dism stuff, I've gone back
to an archive I had of the 10130 version. I'll see how it goes from
there skipping 10158/9
That strange code appeared after trying the update from the ISO DVD, and
after the failure the recovery to the 10158 version. There were also a
few words "First Boot error during SYSPREP" . The actual update failure
occurred during the "Install features and drivers" part of the update
... approx 40% of the update.


So even that has failed. Seems this update does not like this laptop,
or perhaps some of the other software installed. I will try and do a
clean install on s new disc tomorrow.

The clean install worked perfectly! I now assume it's something I have
done/installed that is causing the problem. I really would like to
update the existing (now 10130) system. I'll try removing completely
some of my installs that might be causing problems.

Oldster wrote:
On 06/07/2015 19:02, Oldster wrote:
On 06/07/2015 12:54, Oldster wrote:
On 05/07/2015 23:51, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails
with a code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as
follows := 0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the
suggestion of inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still
fails having reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to
update using the download ISO file. Any suggestions?


Try some Win8 techniques with DISM ? Note that Windows 7 only
does one of these, and not the others. On Windows 7 there
is a SURCheck download, for doing repairs.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html





Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

That code seems "unusual". Is this a dialog that pops up ?
Where do you see the code ? I would have expected 0x8 style
code. I don't think they've run out of numbers :-)

Paul
After digging even deeper holes after the Dism stuff, I've gone back
to an archive I had of the 10130 version. I'll see how it goes from
there skipping 10158/9
That strange code appeared after trying the update from the ISO DVD, and
after the failure the recovery to the 10158 version. There were also a
few words "First Boot error during SYSPREP" . The actual update failure
occurred during the "Install features and drivers" part of the update
... approx 40% of the update.


So even that has failed. Seems this update does not like this laptop,
or perhaps some of the other software installed. I will try and do a
clean install on s new disc tomorrow.

The clean install worked perfectly! I now assume it's something I
have done/installed that is causing the problem. I really would like to
update the existing (now 10130) system. I'll try removing completely
some of my installs that might be causing problems.

On my machine, the Logitech webcam driver seemed to get updated.
Which you would think would not be a problem, except the
Logitech installer is "interactive". It's not a "silent"
installer. The Logitech installer normally wants you
to plug in the webcam at some point, after the driver
files are in place. So my setup stayed in a loop for a
while, until I noticed what was throwing errors and plugged
in the camera for it. In other words, they attempted
to do a driver update, on a piece of hardware
that wasn't present.

The new philosophy, is Microsoft provides drivers for
everything. In the case of my ATI video card, the CCC
wouldn't start. And the OS got into a maintenance loop, downloading
the same driver over and over again (to the tune of 900MB of downloads),
trying to fix the CCC control panel.

So it could be a driver tipping it over.

You could try looking at the CBS.log file. Or check to
see if there are any other log files with recent dates
on them.

There is a setting to tell the OS not to download
Microsoft drivers - but it may have been removed by now,
leaving you with no option.

Paul

On 07/07/2015 11:33, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
On 06/07/2015 19:02, Oldster wrote:
On 06/07/2015 12:54, Oldster wrote:
On 05/07/2015 23:51, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails
with a code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as
follows := 0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the
suggestion of inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still
fails having reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to
update using the download ISO file. Any suggestions?


Try some Win8 techniques with DISM ? Note that Windows 7 only
does one of these, and not the others. On Windows 7 there
is a SURCheck download, for doing repairs.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html





Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

That code seems "unusual". Is this a dialog that pops up ?
Where do you see the code ? I would have expected 0x8 style
code. I don't think they've run out of numbers :-)

Paul
After digging even deeper holes after the Dism stuff, I've gone back
to an archive I had of the 10130 version. I'll see how it goes from
there skipping 10158/9
That strange code appeared after trying the update from the ISO DVD,
and
after the failure the recovery to the 10158 version. There were also a
few words "First Boot error during SYSPREP" . The actual update failure
occurred during the "Install features and drivers" part of the update
... approx 40% of the update.


So even that has failed. Seems this update does not like this laptop,
or perhaps some of the other software installed. I will try and do a
clean install on s new disc tomorrow.
The clean install worked perfectly! I now assume it's something I
have done/installed that is causing the problem. I really would like
to update the existing (now 10130) system. I'll try removing
completely some of my installs that might be causing problems.

On my machine, the Logitech webcam driver seemed to get updated.
Which you would think would not be a problem, except the
Logitech installer is "interactive". It's not a "silent"
installer. The Logitech installer normally wants you
to plug in the webcam at some point, after the driver
files are in place. So my setup stayed in a loop for a
while, until I noticed what was throwing errors and plugged
in the camera for it. In other words, they attempted
to do a driver update, on a piece of hardware
that wasn't present.

The new philosophy, is Microsoft provides drivers for
everything. In the case of my ATI video card, the CCC
wouldn't start. And the OS got into a maintenance loop, downloading
the same driver over and over again (to the tune of 900MB of downloads),
trying to fix the CCC control panel.

So it could be a driver tipping it over.

You could try looking at the CBS.log file. Or check to
see if there are any other log files with recent dates
on them.

There is a setting to tell the OS not to download
Microsoft drivers - but it may have been removed by now,
leaving you with no option.

Paul

Thanks for that info, but it's too late now. I've installed it via the
clean install, and am now installing the various other programs etc..

Oldster wrote:
On 07/07/2015 11:33, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
On 06/07/2015 19:02, Oldster wrote:
On 06/07/2015 12:54, Oldster wrote:
On 05/07/2015 23:51, Paul wrote:
Oldster wrote:
I've had several attempts to do this update which usually fails
with a code of the form 0xC190xxxx. The most informative one is as
follows := 0xC1900101-0x30108. The only info I have found is the
suggestion of inhibiting all extraneous tasks from starting. Still
fails having reloaded,both from the auto-update route, and trying to
update using the download ISO file. Any suggestions?


Try some Win8 techniques with DISM ? Note that Windows 7 only
does one of these, and not the others. On Windows 7 there
is a SURCheck download, for doing repairs.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html






Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

That code seems "unusual". Is this a dialog that pops up ?
Where do you see the code ? I would have expected 0x8 style
code. I don't think they've run out of numbers :-)

Paul
After digging even deeper holes after the Dism stuff, I've gone back
to an archive I had of the 10130 version. I'll see how it goes from
there skipping 10158/9
That strange code appeared after trying the update from the ISO DVD,
and
after the failure the recovery to the 10158 version. There were also a
few words "First Boot error during SYSPREP" . The actual update
failure
occurred during the "Install features and drivers" part of the update
... approx 40% of the update.


So even that has failed. Seems this update does not like this
laptop,
or perhaps some of the other software installed. I will try and do a
clean install on s new disc tomorrow.
The clean install worked perfectly! I now assume it's something I
have done/installed that is causing the problem. I really would like
to update the existing (now 10130) system. I'll try removing
completely some of my installs that might be causing problems.

On my machine, the Logitech webcam driver seemed to get updated.
Which you would think would not be a problem, except the
Logitech installer is "interactive". It's not a "silent"
installer. The Logitech installer normally wants you
to plug in the webcam at some point, after the driver
files are in place. So my setup stayed in a loop for a
while, until I noticed what was throwing errors and plugged
in the camera for it. In other words, they attempted
to do a driver update, on a piece of hardware
that wasn't present.

The new philosophy, is Microsoft provides drivers for
everything. In the case of my ATI video card, the CCC
wouldn't start. And the OS got into a maintenance loop, downloading
the same driver over and over again (to the tune of 900MB of downloads),
trying to fix the CCC control panel.

So it could be a driver tipping it over.

You could try looking at the CBS.log file. Or check to
see if there are any other log files with recent dates
on them.

There is a setting to tell the OS not to download
Microsoft drivers - but it may have been removed by now,
leaving you with no option.

Paul

Thanks for that info, but it's too late now. I've installed it via
the clean install, and am now installing the various other programs etc..

It's fun to play with the gubbens when the OS is a preview
and no one gets hurt. You missed your chance to fiddle
around with maintenance and see whether DISM really works.

Paul