An open letter to Microsoft's support personnel, should they exist

Yes, MS also offers a set of software tools so the
VAR/homebuilder can customize the UI with custom splash
screens and logos.
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/main.asp


"Gerry Cornell" wrote in message
...
Jupiter

I take it that the major computer retailers like Dell have
their own customised OEM version. However, is there a
Microsoft non-customised OEM version issued to small
computer assemblers through authorised distributors, which
are no different to the retail version, except that it is
an OEM version? How much customisation is permitted?

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Regards.

Gerry

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"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in
message ...
Ted;
What does the EULA that was agreed to on that Dell CD say?
It is a different EULA.

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"Ted" wrote in message
...
Prove it is not legal, by showing this as an actual law
that is
written. Remember, MS is NOT the law!

I am a registerd Microsoft system builder, and as such I purchased OEM
versions of Windows to install on the computers I built.
It was made very plain to me when I signed up that I, and not Microsoft, was
responsible for supplying support for the software I sold. The only
difference between the retail versions and the OEM versions I purchased was
the CD and documentation said OEM, and it would only install on a clean
drive. After it was installed it was exectly the same as any retail version.
Same features, versions, etc. So yes, Dell, Gateway, etc have thier own
customized versions, but there is also a "generic" OEM version.




"Gerry Cornell" wrote in message
...
Jupiter

I take it that the major computer retailers like Dell have their own
customised OEM version. However, is there a Microsoft non-customised OEM
version issued to small computer assemblers through authorised distributors,
which are no different to the retail version, except that it is an OEM
version? How much customisation is permitted?

--

~~~~~~

Regards.

Gerry

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Ted;
What does the EULA that was agreed to on that Dell CD say?
It is a different EULA.

--
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"Ted" wrote in message
...
Prove it is not legal, by showing this as an actual law that is
written. Remember, MS is NOT the law!

Using your car analogy, if you have a problem with your car under warranty,
no matter what component fails, you go to the car dealer, right? Not to the
company that made the radio or the company that made the air conditioner, or
the company that made the oil filter.

Same with your computer. You have a problem with the computer, you go to
Dell, Hp, Gateway, whoever made the computer. You don't go to the various
companies that made the individual components.

You can take your car or your computer anywhere you want to for repair, but
if you want it done under warranty, you can only take it to certain places.
And technical support? You go to the oem. I doubt you'd get anywhere by
calling the company that produced your ignition switch and asking for
technical support on how to rebuild it.

As far as the computer company not telling you that your software is OEM,
they also didn't tell you that your hard drive, sound card, motherboard,
power supply, etc. are OEM parts. Everything in the machine is OEM. You need
anything replaced, the warranty is by the oem, not the individual
manufacturer of the parts. So let's say your monitor goes out, and you find
out that it's made by Viewsonic and the same model has a 3-year warranty
from Viewsonic. But yours has a different label on it, so yours has the
standard one year warranty from the oem. Not three years (or five, on some
models) if it was purchased retail.

Got a SoundBlaster sound card in your OEM machine? There's a chance that the
card, hardware-wise, was customized, and there's an even bigger chance that
the software/drivers/utilities that you got is different than what comes
with a similar retail card. And there's also a chance that if you upgrade
your OS when a new one comes out, you'll need to get drivers from the oem,
as the drivers from the sound card maker might not work. And will your oem
support your upgrade with new drivers? It's up to them. Some do, some don't.
On the other hand, there's a much better chance that the similar retail
product will have upgraded drivers available. You might get lucky and find
that the retail drivers work on your oem card, but it's not a sure thing.

Here's something else you might want to know. There are a lot of oem parts
(besides software) being sold on the internet at pretty good prices. For
some reason, a lot of those are marked "Compaq spares." Especially hard
drives. You know what the warranty on those is? Zero, zilch, nada.
Maxtor/Seagate/WD/whoever won't replace it if it goes bad; they'll refer you
to Compaq. Compaq won't replace it for you, as you didn't buy it from them,
nor did it come with one of their systems. So if it dies in 2 months, you
have no recourse.

And back to your car analogy, with regards to the spare tire. There was a
time when a spare tire was identical to the four on the car. When
manufacturers starting using those limited-use tiny spares, they didn't make
a big hoopla about it. You had to look in the trunk or ask about it, or they
didn't say anything except that a spare was included. Sometimes, on some
models, you could get a full-size spare as an option, if you asked for one.
Used to be you could get a whole technical repair manual for the car. Those
disappeared as well and instead you get a booklet that explains where the
turn signals are, and how to buckle the seat belt. Much like manuals that
used to come with software. At least with computers, the on-line help has
gotten better. :-)


"nevermore" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...
I hesitate to reply, feel a little squeamish about the inevitable abuse I
feel I am inviting but here goes anyway. I am one of those people--the
ones
who bought from a huge vendor without prior research. I had no idea (until
I
started reading this newsgroup) what the heck an OEM was. I have no
problem
at all with the concept that I got what I paid for; however, it would have
been nice to have been advised by my retailer either verbally or in
writing,
that I was not getting a "complete" OS and that I would have to go
somewhere
other than MS for support. That would have given me the option to say, no
problem, let me pay you for a full copy whatever or would have let me try
to
negotiate for a full copy. Whatever. And yes, I know I can still go out
and
buy one. But that is after the fact and after I learned all about it. In
my
(stupid one of those people) opinion, to use a car analogy which everyone
hates, everyone knows that you have to get a car serviced and seen to from
time to time and that is just fine and no one expects you to be a mechanic
when you buy a car. But the smelly stuff would hit the fan if you found
out
after you got the car home that you could only get it repaired by taking
it
to certain garages and you couldn't even talk to, say, Ford. And it didn't
come with a spare tire. But hey, you paid a couple of hundred bucks less
for
it and you should have asked when you bought it. From where I am sitting,
I
can't ask what I don't know about and being one of those persons, I can't
actually tell that I am paying less for it. Yes, believe it or not, you
can
compare whole systems from store to store quite easily but it is not
obvious
(to those people) that the price difference is because of the type of
components vs. a lightweight OS. Or because they just have a great sale
going on. Again, I have no problem with the buyer beware concept etcetera.
But I think that there should be some requirement for full disclosure with
respect to the operating system. As in "Comes with Windows XP OEM". I hope
that if I had seen that I would have asked what is OEM? Maybe not-- I am
one
of those people g but at that point I could not have any complaint at
all.



"Gerry Cornell" wrote in message
...
Jim

The information is there to be read but is it in Plain English or whatever
language you use?

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Hope this helps.

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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
I bought a Microsoft Windows XP Pro (OEM) from New Egg. I
also bought a motherboard and CPU...I am my own tech
support. The OEM XP Pro was $128, the mobo and CPU was
about $200.
My XP CD says Microsoft on it and it is legal. Unless you
have a Dell, installing a Dell branded OEM CD on another
computer is not legal.

The information is available, but people don't want to read.


"D.Currie" wrote in message
...
| The problem may also be that not everyone who sells OEM
software has an OEM
| agreement with MS. Somewhere I have a document that says
what I'm supposed
| to do for the end user, and that includes providing
support. Among other
| things.
|
| OTOH if a person buys OEM software independent of a
system, he is probably
| considered the system builder, and the seller is acting as
a distributor
| (albeit not one of MSs authorized distributors; another
problem). As an OEM
| with an agreement with MS, I get support from MS, but that
individual who
| buys one copy on the 'net doesn't get support as he's not
in the program.
|
| Another thing is that some people don't know where the
line is between
| technical support and training. And they aren't clear
where they should go
| for support, so they look in all the wrong places and get
frustrated. Many
| people think the system builder should be responsible for
everything that
| goes into the computer, and are quite surprised when Dell
or whoever won't
| troubleshoot their printers or games or obscure software.
|
| "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote
in message
| ...
| But is there "the rule that OEMs have to support the
software" or is
| that support if any comes from the OEM and not
Microsoft.
| The real fault may be that the customer is not informed
why the OEM is
| cheaper and what all the customer does and does not get.
| Of course the idea "You get what you pay for" escapes
many consumers
| when they think they see a bargain and a not so
informative
| salesperson.
| Microsoft may have a part in this as the packaging could
be modified
| to show it, however the package is not always seen by
the consumer.
|
| --
| Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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|
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...oups/setup.asp
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|
|
| "D.Currie" wrote in message
| ...
| Personally, I'd like to see some way to enforce the
rule that OEMs
| have to
| support the software. Or maybe lose the ability to
sell OEM. As a
| small
| system builder, my customers can come in and ask me
questions
| face-to-face,
| and that's fine. Or they'll call. But I also get
plenty of calls
| from people
| who have bought from the big guys, and they can't get
an answer.
|
| Then there are the people who sell the oem software
with trinkets,
| and have
| no intention or ability to answer questions.
|
| I don't mind answering customer's questions, and even
the not-yet
| customers -- I figure some day I will get their
business.
|
| But it does irritate me that others shirk the
responsibility to give
| the
| technical support they're supposed to. They aren't
footing the cost
| for
| proper support, so they sell their stuff cheap, which
is fine for
| the
| customer until they need help. And in the meantime,
I'm providing
| free tech
| support in the hopes that I'll get work from that
person in the
| meantime.
|
|
|
|

"Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
s.com...

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Ted;
What does the EULA that was agreed to on that Dell CD say?
It is a different EULA.


curse mode off for now

That's not the point! MS's EULA (or any software contract) is not a binding
legal document written under laws of a criminal code, other than if one
breaks the agreement, it could be a civil matter in a court of law. But to
use the term "legal" (or illegal) cannot apply in this case since there is
no actual written law where one can be arrested for using the same copy of
Windows on two or more PCs. While I agree to the EULA, and personally will
not use it on another PC, until MS and software writers get national
legislators to amend the software copyright laws, applying opinions as legal
code is pretty silly, IMHO! Until that happens, it is certain that agreeing
to a contract (or EULA, etc), is solely on the conscious of the user, and
how their morals are to making such agreements and how they in turn use the
said software (if used on multiple hardware installations).

curse mode on


If Microsoft were to, for whatever cause, take you to court, I am sure they
could prove in civil law that you did in fact break your agreement with
them.

"Ted" wrote in message
...

Who, what, where, how, why, when???

Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and how" (apologies to the Mickey
Mouse Club)

sorry, couldn't resist ;o)

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"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message =
...
"Ted" wrote in message=20
...
=20
Who, what, where, how, why, when???
=20
Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and how" (apologies to the =
Mickey=20
Mouse Club)
=20
sorry, couldn't resist ;o)

Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex of an MS employee's =
amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise for being a gormless =
****, it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned descriptor!

Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I could have had my
feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic misunderstanding totally
destroys what could have been a perfectly good flame?) g

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"Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
s.com...

Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and how" (apologies to the
Mickey
Mouse Club)

sorry, couldn't resist ;o)

Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex of an MS employee's
amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise for being a gormless ****,
it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned descriptor!

Do you think Ted is 12 years old and just learned the c word
or 60 and is suffering from lack of the c?


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in
message ...
| Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I could
have had my
| feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic
misunderstanding totally
| destroys what could have been a perfectly good flame?) g
|
| --
| Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| ________________________________________
| Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
|
| "Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
| s.com...
|
| Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and how"
(apologies to the
| Mickey
| Mouse Club)
|
| sorry, couldn't resist ;o)
|
| Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex of an
MS employee's
| amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise for being
a gormless ****,
| it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned
descriptor!
|

He/she is probably just suffering from lack-of-vocabulary-itis and/or the
delusion that swearing equates intelligence; diseases that are far too
common nowadays ;o)

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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
Do you think Ted is 12 years old and just learned the c word
or 60 and is suffering from lack of the c?


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in
message ...
| Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I could
have had my
| feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic
misunderstanding totally
| destroys what could have been a perfectly good flame?) g
|
| --
| Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| ________________________________________
| Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
|
| "Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
| s.com...
|
| Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and how"
(apologies to the
| Mickey
| Mouse Club)
|
| sorry, couldn't resist ;o)
|
| Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex of an
MS employee's
| amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise for being
a gormless ****,
| it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned
descriptor!
|

They do get boring. Andrew Dice Clay is very funny for a
few minutes each year, but once is enough.


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in
message ...
| He/she is probably just suffering from
lack-of-vocabulary-itis and/or the
| delusion that swearing equates intelligence; diseases that
are far too
| common nowadays ;o)
|
| --
| Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| ________________________________________
| Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote in message
| ...
| Do you think Ted is 12 years old and just learned the c
word
| or 60 and is suffering from lack of the c?
|
|
| "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote
in
| message ...
| | Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I
could
| have had my
| | feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic
| misunderstanding totally
| | destroys what could have been a perfectly good flame?)
g
| |
| | --
| | Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| | ________________________________________
| | Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| | http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
| |
| |
| | "Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
| |
s.com...
| |
| | Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and how"
| (apologies to the
| | Mickey
| | Mouse Club)
| |
| | sorry, couldn't resist ;o)
| |
| | Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex of
an
| MS employee's
| | amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise for
being
| a gormless ****,
| | it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned
| descriptor!
| |
|
|

Have you seen this? It is quite appropriate.
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame50.html

Personally, I've been likened many times to the example below, which is kind
of cool, because I do have red hair and, apparently, the temper to match g
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame18.html

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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
They do get boring. Andrew Dice Clay is very funny for a
few minutes each year, but once is enough.


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in
message ...
| He/she is probably just suffering from
lack-of-vocabulary-itis and/or the
| delusion that swearing equates intelligence; diseases that
are far too
| common nowadays ;o)
|
| --
| Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| ________________________________________
| Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote in message
| ...
| Do you think Ted is 12 years old and just learned the c
word
| or 60 and is suffering from lack of the c?
|
|
| "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote
in
| message ...
| | Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I
could
| have had my
| | feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic
| misunderstanding totally
| | destroys what could have been a perfectly good flame?)
g
| |
| | --
| | Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| | ________________________________________
| | Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| | http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
| |
| |
| | "Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
| |
s.com...
| |
| | Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and how"
| (apologies to the
| | Mickey
| | Mouse Club)
| |
| | sorry, couldn't resist ;o)
| |
| | Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex of
an
| MS employee's
| | amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise for
being
| a gormless ****,
| | it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned
| descriptor!
| |
|
|

I had never seen the site before, thanks for the link.

A local issue in Kansas right now is gambling, should it be
allowed. The political issue is the chance for more
government money balanced against public morals and
organized crime interests.

A local TV station has a poll, asking what type of gambling
"you'd like to see?" So I called in my opinion, "strip
poker."

I don't mind rude, crude or even salacious, but calling
everybody with whom you disagree a vulgar name gets very old
very quickly.

I've given up on the kill file because these people keep
changing their names and spoofed addresses so they keep
getting through.


"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in
message ...
| Have you seen this? It is quite appropriate.
| http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame50.html
|
| Personally, I've been likened many times to the example
below, which is kind
| of cool, because I do have red hair and, apparently, the
temper to match g
| http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame18.html
|
| --
| Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| ________________________________________
| Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote in message
| ...
| They do get boring. Andrew Dice Clay is very funny for
a
| few minutes each year, but once is enough.
|
|
| "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote
in
| message ...
| | He/she is probably just suffering from
| lack-of-vocabulary-itis and/or the
| | delusion that swearing equates intelligence; diseases
that
| are far too
| | common nowadays ;o)
| |
| | --
| | Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| | ________________________________________
| | Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| | http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
| wrote in message
| | ...
| | Do you think Ted is 12 years old and just learned
the c
| word
| | or 60 and is suffering from lack of the c?
| |
| |
| | "Sandi - Microsoft MVP"
wrote
| in
| | message
...
| | | Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I
| could
| | have had my
| | | feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic
| | misunderstanding totally
| | | destroys what could have been a perfectly good
flame?)
| g
| | |
| | | --
| | | Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain
current.
| | | ________________________________________
| | | Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| | | http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
| | |
| | |
| | | "Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
| | |
|
s.com...
| | |
| | | Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and
how"
| | (apologies to the
| | | Mickey
| | | Mouse Club)
| | |
| | | sorry, couldn't resist ;o)
| | |
| | | Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex
of
| an
| | MS employee's
| | | amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise
for
| being
| | a gormless ****,
| | | it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned
| | descriptor!
| | |
| |
| |
|
|

We legalise gambling in the land of oz, mostly to control organised =
crime. I suggest your kansas pollies are lying.=20

Pro
Remove criminal interest
Govt get revenue rather than criminals

Con
Increased incidence of personal harm and the social consequences due to =
increase in gambling

There can be other points based on the type of gambling and regulations =
applying.

EG Casinos increase tourism, lotteries don't.

You'd think you guys would remember your prohibition. Where I live =
gamblng is reguated, brothels are regulated, and injecting is being =
regulated.=20

Illegall activiies can't be regulated. By regulatng the govt get to =
control and influence the activity and can shape the outcomes.

The real questions should be, What regulations?

From: "Jim Macklin"
Subject: An open letter to Microsoft's support personnel, should =
they exist
Date: Sunday, 13 July 2003 8:27 PM

I had never seen the site before, thanks for the link.

A local issue in Kansas right now is gambling, should it be
allowed. The political issue is the chance for more
government money balanced against public morals and
organized crime interests.

A local TV station has a poll, asking what type of gambling
"you'd like to see?" So I called in my opinion, "strip
poker."

I don't mind rude, crude or even salacious, but calling
everybody with whom you disagree a vulgar name gets very old
very quickly.

I've given up on the kill file because these people keep
changing their names and spoofed addresses so they keep
getting through.


--=20
http://www.g2mil.com/Apr2003.htm
http://www.sharpword.com/fascism.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Jim Macklin" wrote in message =
...
I had never seen the site before, thanks for the link.
=20
A local issue in Kansas right now is gambling, should it be
allowed. The political issue is the chance for more
government money balanced against public morals and
organized crime interests.
=20
A local TV station has a poll, asking what type of gambling
"you'd like to see?" So I called in my opinion, "strip
poker."
=20
I don't mind rude, crude or even salacious, but calling
everybody with whom you disagree a vulgar name gets very old
very quickly.
=20
I've given up on the kill file because these people keep
changing their names and spoofed addresses so they keep
getting through.
=20
=20
"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in
message ...
| Have you seen this? It is quite appropriate.
| http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame50.html
|
| Personally, I've been likened many times to the example
below, which is kind
| of cool, because I do have red hair and, apparently, the
temper to match g
| http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame18.html
|
| --=20
| Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
| ________________________________________
| Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
|
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote in message
| ...
| They do get boring. Andrew Dice Clay is very funny for
a
| few minutes each year, but once is enough.
|
|
| "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote
in
| message ...
| | He/she is probably just suffering from
| lack-of-vocabulary-itis and/or the
| | delusion that swearing equates intelligence; diseases
that
| are far too
| | common nowadays ;o)
| |
| | --=20
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| | ________________________________________
| | Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| | http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
| wrote in message
| | ...
| | Do you think Ted is 12 years old and just learned
the c
| word
| | or 60 and is suffering from lack of the c?
| |
| |
| | "Sandi - Microsoft MVP"
wrote
| in
| | message
...
| | | Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I
| could
| | have had my
| | | feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic
| | misunderstanding totally
| | | destroys what could have been a perfectly good
flame?)
| g
| | |
| | | --=20
| | | Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain
current.
| | | ________________________________________
| | | Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| | | http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer
| | |
| | |
| | | "Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
| | |
|
s.com...
| | |
| | | Actually, its "who, what, why, where, when and
how"
| | (apologies to the
| | | Mickey
| | | Mouse Club)
| | |
| | | sorry, couldn't resist ;o)
| | |
| | | Of course you couldn't resist, as this is a reflex
of
| an
| | MS employee's
| | | amoebic reaction instinct. IOWs, don't apologise
for
| being
| | a gormless ****,
| | | it is unbecoming, if even from the aforementioned
| | descriptor!
| | |
| |
| |
|
|
=20
=20

"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message =
...
Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I could have had my=20
feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic misunderstanding =
totally=20
destroys what could have been a perfectly good flame?) g

Oh boy!=20

So now we play "role association lamer", in a poor attempt to hide the =
fact of my previous post about you!

Well at least you've cleaned up your language a bit. That's a step in the
right direction ROTFLMAO

Now.... if only you will direct your mind to some relevant studies and
improve the standard of your flames you'd really be getting somewhere )

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure answers remain current.
________________________________________
Sandi Hardmeier - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer


"Ted" """"""""""""""" wrote in message
s.com...

"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
...
Boy - I sure am glad I'm *not* an MS employee or I could have had my
feelings hurt (don't you just love it when a basic misunderstanding
totally
destroys what could have been a perfectly good flame?) g

Oh boy!

So now we play "role association lamer", in a poor attempt to hide the fact
of my previous post about you!