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Kephryn wrote:
kurttrail wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:31:13 -0600, Notan wrote: If people deserve to be punished for being foolish, then the implication is that we shouldn't work to prevent them from their just consequences. You can't make people smarter, all you can do is mitigate the consequences of their foolishness. Again, I'd imagine that there's no reasoning with little Kurt. Apparently, he's the the type of person that thinks calling a fat person "fat" is a good motivator for weight loss. Anything else would be coddling. In the case of foolish computing the consequences are different from being fat. I could let someone play with a loaded handgun trusting that the only person who got hurt was the person playing with that gun, and he would deserve what he got. HUH? Both of those affect other people. I guess you never had to sit next to some fat f*#ker on an airplane. And playing with guns gets people shot, and not only those doing the playing. Except I'm smart enough to see that we all pay for the damage. And I would prefer to be protected from that fool's actions. But then I'd be as big of a fool as Kurt is, and just as deserving of the consequences. What consequences are there for you if someone gets spyware on their computer? My consequence, I get Paid for cleaning it. LOL! So you feed on the misery of others. ;-) -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Howard Brazee wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:43:56 -0400, "kurttrail" wrote: Except I'm smart enough to see that we all pay for the damage. And I would prefer to be protected from that fool's actions. But then I'd be as big of a fool as Kurt is, and just as deserving of the consequences. What consequences are there for you if someone gets spyware on their computer? First, this discussion applies just as well for all mal-ware. No. Spyware and Viruses are different things with different consequences. Spyware doesn't try to infect any computer other than the local computer. 1. When the people who produce the mal-ware get rewarded, more gets created. They get more resources and develop ways to get into better protected systems. I have to spend more time and money protecting myself. I want to see those *******s in the poorhouse. Yeah, and I want to see the end to corporate welfare, and raising the capital gains tax on anyone making more than $100,000 dollars. But I'm not gonna hold my breath. 2. When the fools spread their mal-ware, more of our business resources are spent fighting them. When the costs of business rise, consumers pay. LOL! Most spyware comes from free programs or free web content. 3. When there is more noise on the Internet, it is more work to sift out the useful parts. I have better things to do. LOL! Then start petitioning your government to start regulating the internet. Create a special interest group, and lobby your politicians. 4. Some people have reason to have data about people I care about on computers. I don't want those people compromised by phishers or others. I want world peace, if we are gonna talk about pipe dreams. In general, I'd rather see the mal-ware producers frustrated. They won't be as long as there are easy targets. And there will be easy targets as long as people keep enabling the fools that infect their computers. They are like the mice that keep pushing the lever that dispenses the cocaine until they die. If you don't vitually beat some sense into them, they'll just keep infecting their computers. Touchy-feely enabling answers just don't work. Negative reinforcement is necessary. -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Kephryn wrote:
kurttrail wrote: Kephryn wrote: Fitz wrote: Amen to that. I dont see where this discussion is going. What get linux so fat people dont have to clean spyware? Use common sense while browsing the web, and if you end up getting your computer infected with spyware, find out how to remove it on your own, as there are plenty of web pages with the info. IOW, Don't be a fat lazy fool that expects to get help from others every time you stub your toe, as you should have been looking where you were going in the first place. I understand your point of view, but if that is the only reason of the discussion and your participation then there isnt a point to your point of view. Sure there is. Giving negative reinforcement to the enablers. ;-) -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like you're
upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come to the newsgroups/forums. I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a high level pro.-- *** NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission. *** "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Fitz wrote: It sounds like you're advocating that newsgroups/forums be eliminated so that no one with knowledge can be an "enabler". Again quote me. The OP is a self-professed "high level pro" and really has no good excuse for infecting his computer with spyware, and should be smart enough to find his own answer instead of begging for one. I suspect the OP is only a pro at getting high. I've found that I gain a great deal of knowledge and information from these groups. I'd had to see the groups go. Didn't realize that I was being enabled by reading these groups. If you ask questions that are easily found by googling and instead come begging for someone to give you the easy answer, then yes you are being enabled. BTW, I don't have any scumware on my computer. Did I say you did? -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Fitz wrote:
Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Not when it enables lazy & foolish behavior. Sounds like you're upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come to the newsgroups/forums. Sh*t-for-brains, I ain't upset at all. I'm just showing spyware infections are totally preventable and usually caused by fat lazy fools. If you want to be part of the solution, then you should treat these fools as fools. If you want to be part of the problem, then keep help these fools like they were victims. I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a high level pro. The fool only has 3 posts in this thread. Either you are an idiot that doesn't know how to do a simple search, or you are a lazy piece of sh*t that didn't try very hard. -- *** NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission. *** "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Fitz wrote: It sounds like you're advocating that newsgroups/forums be eliminated so that no one with knowledge can be an "enabler". Again quote me. The OP is a self-professed "high level pro" and really has no good excuse for infecting his computer with spyware, and should be smart enough to find his own answer instead of begging for one. I suspect the OP is only a pro at getting high. I've found that I gain a great deal of knowledge and information from these groups. I'd had to see the groups go. Didn't realize that I was being enabled by reading these groups. If you ask questions that are easily found by googling and instead come begging for someone to give you the easy answer, then yes you are being enabled. BTW, I don't have any scumware on my computer. Did I say you did? -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Fitz wrote: Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like you're upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come to the newsgroups/forums. Fritz, he's just another pathetic troll who feeds on attention...ANY kind of attention. By being argumentative, he can at least get some to respond, and remind himself that he's being noticed. I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a high level pro.-- Correct. I never stated anywhere that *I* was any high-level pro. (Anyone can check the posts for themselves.) This attention-starved loser changed what I wrote into what he wanted it to say. Even an armchair psychologist could identify this type: Probably reasonably intelligent, but a total failure with career, personal relationships, etc... likely doesn't support himself, and likely ridiculed by everyone he comes in contact with, as was illustrated here. BTW, except for this clunker, these Windows groups have some pretty good dudes reading and posting. Misfits like kunttail are part of what's destroying USENET. -- Flores |
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Thanks for the reply and I agree. Newsgroups and forums are a great place
to learn. I've found that the real techs in these groups don't mind helping folks. I've posted some replies that I hope have helped some people with problems but I've gained much more than I imparted. Cheers! -- *** NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission. *** wrote in message ups.com... Fitz wrote: Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like you're upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come to the newsgroups/forums. Fritz, he's just another pathetic troll who feeds on attention...ANY kind of attention. By being argumentative, he can at least get some to respond, and remind himself that he's being noticed. I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a high level pro.-- Correct. I never stated anywhere that *I* was any high-level pro. (Anyone can check the posts for themselves.) This attention-starved loser changed what I wrote into what he wanted it to say. Even an armchair psychologist could identify this type: Probably reasonably intelligent, but a total failure with career, personal relationships, etc... likely doesn't support himself, and likely ridiculed by everyone he comes in contact with, as was illustrated here. BTW, except for this clunker, these Windows groups have some pretty good dudes reading and posting. Misfits like kunttail are part of what's destroying USENET. -- Flores |
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Fitz wrote: Knowledge, from where ever it comes, is a good thing. Sounds like you're upset because people don't use Google to find an answer rather than come to the newsgroups/forums. Fritz, he's just another pathetic troll who feeds on attention...ANY kind of attention. By being argumentative, he can at least get some to respond, and remind himself that he's being noticed. I could care less if anyone responds or not, I'd still post my opinion about fools like you that are too fat, lazy, and stupid to keep spyware off of their computers. I don't see in the OP's post where he says he's a high level pro.-- Correct. I never stated anywhere that *I* was any high-level pro. No, you just made it part of an excuse about getting spyware. http://groups.google.com/group/micro...4a9cbe27f796e2 (Anyone can check the posts for themselves.) There's the link above. This attention-starved loser changed what I wrote into what he wanted it to say. Even an armchair psychologist could identify this type: Probably reasonably intelligent, but a total failure with career, personal relationships, etc... likely doesn't support himself, and likely ridiculed by everyone he comes in contact with, as was illustrated here. LOL! Nothing like some fool that got his feelings hurt trying to psychoanalyze the person that hurt their feeling by expresssing the truth! BTW, except for this clunker, these Windows groups have some pretty good dudes reading and posting. Misfits like kunttail are part of what's destroying USENET. ROFL! That's really funny coming from a total idiot that installed spyware on his/her/it's computer, then had to beg for help. So if you aren't a high-level pro, what is your real excuse for being so stupid as to need to remove spyware from your computer. The sun was in your eyes? Your time of the month? Drain Bamage? -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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Fitz wrote:
Thanks for the reply and I agree. Newsgroups and forums are a great place to learn. I've found that the real techs in these groups don't mind helping folks. I've posted some replies that I hope have helped some people with problems but I've gained much more than I imparted. Cheers! Don't strain yourself by patting yourself on the back! The problem with helping some people is that just enables them to remain ignorant about comuputers, just like giving a kid all the answers to the homework doesn't help them to learn and find out the answers for themselves. All it does is get them reliant on getting someone else to give them the answers to their homework. -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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kurttrail wrote:
snip The problem with helping some people is that just enables them... Enabling. Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly, little tirades, by responding to your posts? Notan |
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Notan wrote:
kurttrail wrote: snip The problem with helping some people is that just enables them... Enabling. Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly, little tirades, by responding to your posts? ROFL! What exactly did you feel was a tirade? And if you feel that responding to my posts could be enabling me, why did you respond to my post, and enabling me some more? If you haven't noticed, but I'm laughing at the whole bunch of you. Fools and enablers of fools. PSML! -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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"Notan" wrote in message ... kurttrail wrote: snip The problem with helping some people is that just enables them... Enabling. Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly, little tirades, by responding to your posts? Notan You mean, like you just did? |
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Jone Doe wrote:
"Notan" wrote in message ... kurttrail wrote: snip The problem with helping some people is that just enables them... Enabling. Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly, little tirades, by responding to your posts? Notan You mean, like you just did? Catch-22. Notan |
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Notan wrote:
Jone Doe wrote: "Notan" wrote in message ... kurttrail wrote: snip The problem with helping some people is that just enables them... Enabling. Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly, little tirades, by responding to your posts? Notan You mean, like you just did? Catch-22. Nope, KnowNothing. You could have responded to another poster in this thread, instead of me, and asked them if they weren't enabling me by responding to me. Too bad you weren't bright enough to figure out a non-hypocritical way of expressing your opinion! ;-) -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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although it's obvious you don't have a clue, I know who I was replying to,
and the statement I was replying to also. And I suspect everyone else who read the post also knew. And just to annoy you, I will top post this time. "kurttrail" wrote in message ... Notan wrote: Jone Doe wrote: "Notan" wrote in message ... kurttrail wrote: snip The problem with helping some people is that just enables them... Enabling. Is that similar to what people do when they feed into your silly, little tirades, by responding to your posts? Notan You mean, like you just did? Catch-22. Nope, KnowNothing. You could have responded to another poster in this thread, instead of me, and asked them if they weren't enabling me by responding to me. Too bad you weren't bright enough to figure out a non-hypocritical way of expressing your opinion! ;-) -- Peace! Kurt Self-anointed Moderator microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea http://microscum.com/mscommunity "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron! "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei" |
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