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  #31  
Old September 16th 12, 02:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:13:55 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:18:16 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 01:54:19 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

In fact, I have used that very app above, nircmd, in a script to turn
off the monitor during an overnight backup operation, because the
brightly lit screen interfered with my sleep :-)

Can you imagine normal people wanting to sit in their bedrooms for hours
on end corresponding with other people, few, if any, they know or will
ever meet? Me neither.


Yes, I can imagine that, but still, I have no idea why you asked.
Mystified...


It was the line about your screen causing insomnia. I keep fangled
gadgets (new and old) out of my bedroom.


Thanks for the explanation. You can see below why I didn't understand
your remark until you explained it :-)

The computer is in another bedroom which has been redesignated as an
office, but the doors face each other and the light annoyed me a bit.

That said, I confess that my remark about insomnia qualifies as a
significant exaggeration :-)

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  #32  
Old September 16th 12, 04:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:03:32 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

My assumption was that it had already been scanned by something
on my PC and found wanting bco the "Malicious..." message when I
started the download.


The local scan doesn't start until the download is complete.

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  #33  
Old September 16th 12, 04:55 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 9/15/2012 8:06 PM, Paul wrote:
BillW50 wrote:
On 9/15/2012 10:55 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 10:32:16 -0500, wrote:

On 9/15/2012 10:19 AM, Char Jackson wrote:

I don't get the whole "scared to download" thing.

I understand the fear. Even though I have been using Windows since '93
and I never had a virus or trojan yet. But I still understand the fear
of others. As all it takes is been bitten once or twice even with the
correct tools installed to be very leery.

You understand something that I don't.


Perhaps because I felt that fear before. I decided to reinstall
Windows 2000 from scratch on a Toshiba 2595XDVD. It was 2001 or maybe
the latest was 2002. I was still using dialup (shortly later I was
using DSL). I was also very cocky about malware back then. As I was
always one step ahead of the hackers. And whatever they could come up
with, I was already ready for them.

Still believing this, I reinstalled Windows 2000 from scratch. Logged
on dialup and got the updates from Microsoft. When asked to reboot, I
selected later. I didn't have an AV yet on this computer, so I
downloaded and installed AVG. I don't recall if AVG wanted me to
reboot too or not. I guess it doesn't matter. But at this point I
logged off and I could get AVG to scan before a reboot.

Why I did it this way, I dunno, I guess it was that little voice in
your head telling you to do it this way. I couldn't see the harm, so
ok. And I was totally shocked at the end result! One virus was
downloaded in the background and was ready to install on the next
reboot. Luckily AVG found it and removed it and removed the launch
from the Windows registry before it could even run.

I was now totally blown away! All of my cockiness was gone. They
almost got me! I didn't access any malware site or anything. Just
Microsoft and AVG websites and that is it. No I didn't have a firewall
installed. And the only thing that makes sense is that a hacker's
computer (BOT) pinged my computer and my computer answered back in the
background. My computer not running in stealth mode was talking to a
stranger. So the BOT found an easy way through an open port to slip
the malware in and to modify the Windows registry. Ready to do its
dirty deed when I rebooted.

That was my scariest day when it comes to malware. I couldn't believe
they almost got me. All I had to do was to reboot and they would have.
So I had to rethink everything and how I almost got nabbed. I lost
sleep that night worrying about this.

But that was the closest I came. I am not as cocky about malware
anymore. And I look more over my shoulder a lot more than I did
before. ;-)


That could be something like this. Direct connection
to a modem, with no Windows firewall, would be enough. Even
if you had a box with NAT between you and the Internet, it
would help. Some of those exploits, are stopped by the
NAT in a home router.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasser_(computer_worm)

Paul


Yes indeed. I didn't know this 10+ years ago when it happened. But I
quickly examined how the heck they almost got by me. Once I figured it
out I made sure that would never happen again. And after 10+ years, the
hackers haven't even come close. I am still a bit scared though. As they
almost got me once. Is the day coming when they actually do?

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  #34  
Old September 16th 12, 05:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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BillW50 wrote:


Yes indeed. I didn't know this 10+ years ago when it happened. But I
quickly examined how the heck they almost got by me. Once I figured it
out I made sure that would never happen again. And after 10+ years, the
hackers haven't even come close. I am still a bit scared though. As they
almost got me once. Is the day coming when they actually do?


The attack surface is huge, so yes, I'd say some day they'll get you.

Paul
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Old September 16th 12, 02:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per Char Jackson:
My assumption was that it had already been scanned by something
on my PC and found wanting bco the "Malicious..." message when I
started the download.


The local scan doesn't start until the download is complete.


Any thoughts on where it came from? WOT maybe?
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Old September 16th 12, 03:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:46:26 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per Char Jackson:
My assumption was that it had already been scanned by something
on my PC and found wanting bco the "Malicious..." message when I
started the download.


The local scan doesn't start until the download is complete.


Any thoughts on where it came from? WOT maybe?


The likely candidates appear to be Chrome, WOT, and Avast, based on
what you've told us you've got running on that system.

I imagine you've got one or more of them set to "Warn me when visiting
potentially malicious sites", and I assume there's a mechanism that
lets you identify specific sites as false positives in order to stop
the warnings.

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Old September 16th 12, 07:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Per (PeteCresswell):
Maybe replace the Radeon driver with some sort of special driver?


This is starting to beg a question for me: Once I remove or turn
off that Radeon driver, what is it that's left and is supplying
whatever it takes to get me a screen image?

Maybe that's what I need to try to hack in order to move from
1600x1200 to 1920x1200.

FWIW, this is not a religious issue. As someone already observed
I can live with 16x12 just fine. It's more the idea than
anything else.
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Old September 16th 12, 08:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per (PeteCresswell):
Maybe replace the Radeon driver with some sort of special driver?


This is starting to beg a question for me: Once I remove or turn
off that Radeon driver, what is it that's left and is supplying
whatever it takes to get me a screen image?

Maybe that's what I need to try to hack in order to move from
1600x1200 to 1920x1200.

FWIW, this is not a religious issue. As someone already observed
I can live with 16x12 just fine. It's more the idea than
anything else.


I've referred to this in the past, as the "VESA driver", in the
sense that it only supported a few VESA-like resolutions (800x600
or 640x480). Examples would be, the tiny cramped screen you used
to get in Safe Mode. In Safe Mode, it's possible to not have the
regular (Radeon) driver loaded. And the system needs a fallback
that can at least talk to a frame buffer. As far as I know, there's
some feature of the BIOS (video card BIOS chip loads and registers
VESA resolutions), and a VESA driver might be tapping into the
modes there.

So the question would be, whether it's still the same emergency
driver concept, as it's doing 1600x1200 for you, and that's way
above what would normally be supported.

On my Windows 8 install, on the machine with an FX5200, the screen
runs at 1024x768 (with a 1440x900 monitor), because Windows 8
claims to not have an official driver for the FX5200. So I'm
not being offered anything near 1600x1200 in that scenario.
VESA resolutions are more likely to be 4:3 or 5:4, and
things like 16:10 or 16:9 are more modern concepts. So the
emergency driver might not necessarily support all of those
kinds of options.

You could try using Device Manager, and display the driver
file details of what is currently being used. Maybe that
will hint at what emergency driver type it is. (Emergency
driver being the thing installed, when "Radeon" is missing.)

Paul
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Old September 17th 12, 12:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:35:34 -0500, "Char Jackson"
wrote in article ...

On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:22:26 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per Paul:
You'd toss a command like this in some Startup thing, then see
if it takes.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/nircmd.html


I started, then chickened out when WebOfTrust gave the site it's
worst rating in all categories.


I don't know what the basis of that might be, but Nirsoft has been
around for ages and have proven themselves to be completely
trustworthy.


+1

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