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Ed Cryer wrote:
I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. Why keep the local data at all? Configure Firefox to purge its local data on its exit. I use IE once in a blue moon, but clear it weekly for tidiness. Enable its option under Advanced - Security to flush its local data on exit. It mostly works but I have found some items lingering. Of course, if a web browser crashes, it cannot execute its exit routines hence the usefulness of 3rd party cleanup tools. I've been clearing through Control Panel, and always get the Comodo prompt. This is the *only* Comodo prompt I ever get. From now on I shall clear through IE itself. Use CCleaner. You can run it from a command line (ccleaner.exe /auto). Then create a shortcut using that command, like in a toolbar in the Windows taskbar or in the Start menu under a folder, say, for Maintenance. Alternatively, you could use the command line for a scheduled event in Task Scheduler. I do both: sometimes I want an immediate flush and I also want a scheduled flush. There's also BleachBit. I haven't use it. I remember trialing it but it was missing some features of CCleaner, like an option to omit files less than 24 hours old in the Recycle Bin or %temp% folder. I don't know if BleachBit lends itself to running from the command line (to run via shortcut to run a profile of objects to clean or can be scheduled). Let the software and computer do the work. That's what it's for. If I had to rotate the drum in the laundry washer, I wouldn't need the washer and could use an old tub and washboard to manually clean my clothes. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. Why keep the local data at all? Configure Firefox to purge its local data on its exit. I use IE once in a blue moon, but clear it weekly for tidiness. Enable its option under Advanced - Security to flush its local data on exit. It mostly works but I have found some items lingering. Of course, if a web browser crashes, it cannot execute its exit routines hence the usefulness of 3rd party cleanup tools. I've been clearing through Control Panel, and always get the Comodo prompt. This is the *only* Comodo prompt I ever get. From now on I shall clear through IE itself. Use CCleaner. You can run it from a command line (ccleaner.exe /auto). Then create a shortcut using that command, like in a toolbar in the Windows taskbar or in the Start menu under a folder, say, for Maintenance. Alternatively, you could use the command line for a scheduled event in Task Scheduler. I do both: sometimes I want an immediate flush and I also want a scheduled flush. There's also BleachBit. I haven't use it. I remember trialing it but it was missing some features of CCleaner, like an option to omit files less than 24 hours old in the Recycle Bin or %temp% folder. I don't know if BleachBit lends itself to running from the command line (to run via shortcut to run a profile of objects to clean or can be scheduled). Let the software and computer do the work. That's what it's for. If I had to rotate the drum in the laundry washer, I wouldn't need the washer and could use an old tub and washboard to manually clean my clothes. Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. And I'm not short of disc space. I've never heard of Bleachbit, but CCleaner I use often enough. I've listened to many discussions about its reliability, and it's never let me down personally. You display a wide interest and capable knowledge of all things Windows. Does the nagging question I have not bug you at all? It does with me, and I'll expend time and energy trying to solve it. Wasted time, you might say. Maybe, but bug me it does. Ed |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:16:05 +0000, Ed Cryer
wrote: I've never heard of Bleachbit, but CCleaner I use often enough. I've listened to many discussions about its reliability, and it's never let me down personally. Two points: 1. With one exception, CCleaner is very reliable and fine. I also often use it. 2. The exception is its registry cleaning functionality. Like all registry cleaners, using it is unneeded and dangerous. It may be safer than most, but it's not risk-free. |
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"Ed Cryer" wrote
| Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today | - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" | Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often | gets me back there. Another option is to save history but delete cookies on exit. That's how I normally set it up. Stored cookies only serve two purposes: Spying and simplified log-in. There are very slight privacy issues with keeping history. (Aside from things like people physically accessing your computer, and maybe your wife finding out that you visited wetbritishnipples.co-uk.) For instance, one trick to identify peoples' browsing history, if you have javascript enabled, is to put numerous links in a page and then use script to see which ones are colored as visited. By default, unvisited links are blue and visited are purplish. So if a site does something like add google.com, cbs.com, facebook.com, etc they can use script to figure out which of those sites you've visited, assuming you haven't cleared your history. On the other hand, if you enable javascript you're allowing sites to do a great deal more in terms of spying and tracking. So if you have physical control of your computer then there's very little risk keeping history. I like to keep a long history file because I often want to check on something that I can't quite remember. I even back up the places.sqlite file, just in case it somehow goes missing. (The FF history window is poorly designed. It's far too easy to just delete history accidentally and be unable to undo the action.) But I'm also a stickler for privacy. I block things like Google tracking, so there's very little to identify me aside from my IP address. Thus, while I'm keeping history but maintaining reasonable privacy, the average person is being watched by Google, scorecardresearch, etc, as they move around online. |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. Why keep the local data at all? Configure Firefox to purge its local data on its exit. I use IE once in a blue moon, but clear it weekly for tidiness. Enable its option under Advanced - Security to flush its local data on exit. It mostly works but I have found some items lingering. Of course, if a web browser crashes, it cannot execute its exit routines hence the usefulness of 3rd party cleanup tools. I've been clearing through Control Panel, and always get the Comodo prompt. This is the *only* Comodo prompt I ever get. From now on I shall clear through IE itself. Use CCleaner. You can run it from a command line (ccleaner.exe /auto). Then create a shortcut using that command, like in a toolbar in the Windows taskbar or in the Start menu under a folder, say, for Maintenance. Alternatively, you could use the command line for a scheduled event in Task Scheduler. I do both: sometimes I want an immediate flush and I also want a scheduled flush. There's also BleachBit. I haven't use it. I remember trialing it but it was missing some features of CCleaner, like an option to omit files less than 24 hours old in the Recycle Bin or %temp% folder. I don't know if BleachBit lends itself to running from the command line (to run via shortcut to run a profile of objects to clean or can be scheduled). Let the software and computer do the work. That's what it's for. If I had to rotate the drum in the laundry washer, I wouldn't need the washer and could use an old tub and washboard to manually clean my clothes. Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. And I'm not short of disc space. I've never heard of Bleachbit, but CCleaner I use often enough. I've listened to many discussions about its reliability, and it's never let me down personally. So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. So what happens when /YOU/ purge Firefox's local data for that weekly cleanup routine? Well, the same scenario hits. Hmm, what was that place I visited just before I chose to manually delete the history? You said you do the manual cleanup once per week. Why not let a scheduled task do the same? You display a wide interest and capable knowledge of all things Windows. Does the nagging question I have not bug you at all? It does with me, and I'll expend time and energy trying to solve it. Wasted time, you might say. Maybe, but bug me it does. Are you back on the Comodo prompt about inetcpl.cpl? Seems that got narrowed down; however, this newsgroup isn't a Comodo user community and there might be something you need to change in Comodo's configuration as to why it alerts on what should be a whitelisted/trusted process. The problem isn't with using inetcpl.cpl. The problem is with Comodo Firewall, Comodo Internet Security, or whatever is the Comodo (a company name) product you are using. The Comodo forums might be more fruitful on how to configure that security program. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. Why keep the local data at all? Configure Firefox to purge its local data on its exit. I use IE once in a blue moon, but clear it weekly for tidiness. Enable its option under Advanced - Security to flush its local data on exit. It mostly works but I have found some items lingering. Of course, if a web browser crashes, it cannot execute its exit routines hence the usefulness of 3rd party cleanup tools. I've been clearing through Control Panel, and always get the Comodo prompt. This is the *only* Comodo prompt I ever get. From now on I shall clear through IE itself. Use CCleaner. You can run it from a command line (ccleaner.exe /auto). Then create a shortcut using that command, like in a toolbar in the Windows taskbar or in the Start menu under a folder, say, for Maintenance. Alternatively, you could use the command line for a scheduled event in Task Scheduler. I do both: sometimes I want an immediate flush and I also want a scheduled flush. There's also BleachBit. I haven't use it. I remember trialing it but it was missing some features of CCleaner, like an option to omit files less than 24 hours old in the Recycle Bin or %temp% folder. I don't know if BleachBit lends itself to running from the command line (to run via shortcut to run a profile of objects to clean or can be scheduled). Let the software and computer do the work. That's what it's for. If I had to rotate the drum in the laundry washer, I wouldn't need the washer and could use an old tub and washboard to manually clean my clothes. Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. And I'm not short of disc space. I've never heard of Bleachbit, but CCleaner I use often enough. I've listened to many discussions about its reliability, and it's never let me down personally. So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. So what happens when /YOU/ purge Firefox's local data for that weekly cleanup routine? Well, the same scenario hits. Hmm, what was that place I visited just before I chose to manually delete the history? You said you do the manual cleanup once per week. Why not let a scheduled task do the same? CCleaner (and probably BleachBit) just let you delete history. They don't let you choose a range of history to keep or delete. Internet Explorer has the option of how long to keep history, like deleting stuff older than, say, 3 days. Firefox has it, too; however, the choices of what to delete are limited: last 1/2/4 hours, today, and everything. Google Chrome has a similar choice set for how long to keep history. Tis not true when using CCleaner or other external cleaners. There are probably extensions for Firefox and Chrome that will better manage your history. Since Firefox includes some features that are available only using extensions in Chrome, I hunted around for settings that may be available in about:config that could affect history retention, and found: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.history_expire_days http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.hi...xpire_days_min They might be of interest to you. For me, I just have Firefox purge all its local data on its exit. These are old settings and Mozillazine is known for not keeping their pages up to date. Those settings are not defined (do not exist) in my FF v63; however, if the settings are still honored, their absence means the default values are used and you have to create (define) them to use non-default values. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. Never jump to unwarranted assertions. You were doing really well; very helpful and chatty. And then you fail with an illogical assumption. What led you to this one? It's wrong. Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. Never jump to unwarranted assertions. You were doing really well; very helpful and chatty. And then you fail with an illogical assumption. What led you to this one? It's wrong. Ed You: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. (No mention of NOT including history in the cleanup.) Premise: You were deleting ALL history. Me: Firefox ... the choices of what to delete are limited: last 1/2/4 hours, today, and everything. There are probably extensions for Firefox and Chrome that will better manage your history You: Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. Before you were deleting all history, so the above scenario would occur, same as if you used CCleaner or another cleanup tool. Now you want to keep history. Yes, no, sometimes. A moving target is hard to hit. Okay, decide when you are using Firefox to clear out its local data (menu - Options - Privacy & Security - History - Clear History) whether or not to include history (exclude to keep all, include to delete all), or how far back to clear history (menu - Library - History - Clear Recent History), or use a cleanup tool to wipe all history (to overlap Firefox's purge-on-exit settings), or use an extension to manage history that matches whatever criteria you're trying to convey. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. Never jump to unwarranted assertions. You were doing really well; very helpful and chatty. And then you fail with an illogical assumption. What led you to this one? It's wrong. Ed You: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. (No mention of NOT including history in the cleanup.) Premise: You were deleting ALL history. Me: Firefox ... the choices of what to delete are limited: last 1/2/4 hours, today, and everything. There are probably extensions for Firefox and Chrome that will better manage your history You: Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. Before you were deleting all history, so the above scenario would occur, same as if you used CCleaner or another cleanup tool. Now you want to keep history. Yes, no, sometimes. A moving target is hard to hit. Okay, decide when you are using Firefox to clear out its local data (menu - Options - Privacy & Security - History - Clear History) whether or not to include history (exclude to keep all, include to delete all), or how far back to clear history (menu - Library - History - Clear Recent History), or use a cleanup tool to wipe all history (to overlap Firefox's purge-on-exit settings), or use an extension to manage history that matches whatever criteria you're trying to convey. There is nothing in what I've said that could rationally conclude that "You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you?" A man who is overbearing with others is arrogant. When a man lets his arrogance outstrip his reasoning powers he is very arrogant. Ed |
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Mayayana wrote:
"Ed Cryer" wrote | I think the key here is the program in my Subject. That's what I was explaining. inetcpl is the Control Panel applet for "Internet Options", which is the same as IE's settings window. That's why you saw it listed in Comodo. | I doubt Firefox uses that. It has its own routines for cleaning up. Same | with other browsers. | It also has its own cookies. | The Comodo people probably know more about that program than we do, it | having access to IE's insides. | They don't know any more than I just told you. It's very simple. You're deleting IE cookies and Comodo is apparently set in nanny mode to sound an alarm about that because it's mistakenly designed to equate IE settings with "Windows" settings. Mistaken because it doesn't apply to any other browser, so it's not Windows settings. inetcpl just happens to be the process Comodo sees doing the deleting. The only thing you need to know is whether you want Comodo to keep sounding an alarm. If this doesn't make sense to you, go to Run and enter inetcpl.cpl. Then compare that to IE menu Tools - Internet Options. Mystery solved. I've finally found a setting buried deeply; Comodo/ Advanced/ Miscellaneous - "Show alerts in case any other software attempts to modify current settings of installed browsers". Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. Never jump to unwarranted assertions. You were doing really well; very helpful and chatty. And then you fail with an illogical assumption. What led you to this one? It's wrong. Ed You: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. (No mention of NOT including history in the cleanup.) Premise: You were deleting ALL history. Me: Firefox ... the choices of what to delete are limited: last 1/2/4 hours, today, and everything. There are probably extensions for Firefox and Chrome that will better manage your history You: Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. Before you were deleting all history, so the above scenario would occur, same as if you used CCleaner or another cleanup tool. Now you want to keep history. Yes, no, sometimes. A moving target is hard to hit. Okay, decide when you are using Firefox to clear out its local data (menu - Options - Privacy & Security - History - Clear History) whether or not to include history (exclude to keep all, include to delete all), or how far back to clear history (menu - Library - History - Clear Recent History), or use a cleanup tool to wipe all history (to overlap Firefox's purge-on-exit settings), or use an extension to manage history that matches whatever criteria you're trying to convey. There is nothing in what I've said that could rationally conclude that "You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you?" A man who is overbearing with others is arrogant. When a man lets his arrogance outstrip his reasoning powers he is very arrogant. Ed Yadda yadda yadda. Looks like your quest for a solution has ended. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. Never jump to unwarranted assertions. You were doing really well; very helpful and chatty. And then you fail with an illogical assumption. What led you to this one? It's wrong. Ed You: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. (No mention of NOT including history in the cleanup.) Premise: You were deleting ALL history. Me: Firefox ... the choices of what to delete are limited: last 1/2/4 hours, today, and everything. There are probably extensions for Firefox and Chrome that will better manage your history You: Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. Before you were deleting all history, so the above scenario would occur, same as if you used CCleaner or another cleanup tool. Now you want to keep history. Yes, no, sometimes. A moving target is hard to hit. Okay, decide when you are using Firefox to clear out its local data (menu - Options - Privacy & Security - History - Clear History) whether or not to include history (exclude to keep all, include to delete all), or how far back to clear history (menu - Library - History - Clear Recent History), or use a cleanup tool to wipe all history (to overlap Firefox's purge-on-exit settings), or use an extension to manage history that matches whatever criteria you're trying to convey. There is nothing in what I've said that could rationally conclude that "You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you?" A man who is overbearing with others is arrogant. When a man lets his arrogance outstrip his reasoning powers he is very arrogant. Ed Yadda yadda yadda. Looks like your quest for a solution has ended. I have a solution. And I got it without your haughty comments. Ed |
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Ed Cryer wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Ed Cryer wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So elect not to purge Firefox's history on exit. You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you? Else you would've already known you could elect what types of data to purge. Never jump to unwarranted assertions. You were doing really well; very helpful and chatty. And then you fail with an illogical assumption. What led you to this one? It's wrong. Ed You: I clear Firefox weekly; Options/ Privacy & Security/ clear data cache, clear history. (No mention of NOT including history in the cleanup.) Premise: You were deleting ALL history. Me: Firefox ... the choices of what to delete are limited: last 1/2/4 hours, today, and everything. There are probably extensions for Firefox and Chrome that will better manage your history You: Have you ever been hit by "Now then, that website I was at earlier today - where was it? Was it in www.xxx or wwww.yyy or what?" Well, I have; and I've found that a look through Firefox's history often gets me back there. Before you were deleting all history, so the above scenario would occur, same as if you used CCleaner or another cleanup tool. Now you want to keep history. Yes, no, sometimes. A moving target is hard to hit. Okay, decide when you are using Firefox to clear out its local data (menu - Options - Privacy & Security - History - Clear History) whether or not to include history (exclude to keep all, include to delete all), or how far back to clear history (menu - Library - History - Clear Recent History), or use a cleanup tool to wipe all history (to overlap Firefox's purge-on-exit settings), or use an extension to manage history that matches whatever criteria you're trying to convey. There is nothing in what I've said that could rationally conclude that "You haven't even bothered to look at the cleanup settings, have you?" A man who is overbearing with others is arrogant. When a man lets his arrogance outstrip his reasoning powers he is very arrogant. Ed Yadda yadda yadda. Looks like your quest for a solution has ended. I have a solution. And I got it without your haughty comments. Yep, you digged into Comodo's settings to find how to alter its behavior. Regardless of any responses, you would've found the solution by digging into CFW's settings. The folks in the Comodo forums that are focused on that security product might've known right away instead of respondents here guessing why CFW was acting as a super-nanny. http://help.comodo.com/topic-72-1-76...l#enable_alert There are TONS of settings in Comodo. To use effectively and because of its complexity, you should read its manual and read everything at least once, especially how to configure it to behave how YOU want. Yeah, I know a lot of users install security software and think the program will do everything without any interaction from the user. Comodo's programs aren't like that. There must be a few hundred settings in it. That lets every user tweak it to behave pretty close to how they want. It's going to dig deep into the OS and alter a lot of behaviors to add its multitude of protections. Don't know how long you've been using CFW/CIS. It could take a month of evenings going through everything bundled in the product, and another month to get comfortable with it. Unless the community has died due to attrition, they should be able to help. That's where I went with a lot of my questions. Back when I was using free CFW (without CAV and not paying for the CIS product), I thought that suite of settings was bad enough. In CIS, you have even more, like for CAV, GeekBuddy, Backup, and so on. That page indicates the default for that setting is enabled. By its description, that would seem to override any whitelist (pre-compiled by Comodo to eliminate the onslaught of prompts when starting to use the program or part of training period when you decide what to allow or block). Did the prompt about inetcpl.cpl give you an option to Allow *and* to remember your choice? I'm not sure that would help since this setting looks to override your choices or whitelist(s). http://help.comodo.com/topic-72-1-76...iguration.html That shows HIPS is disabled by default (used to be called Defense+). That's its behavior blocker (BB). It can try using all the fingerprint detections, like the setting you found, along with signatures, but the BB is needed to detect zero-day malware since there is no signature yet for it and it may not touch the fingerprint triggers. CAV (Comodo AntiVirus) is way too weak to stand on its own against other anti-virus programs. They added the cloud scan. Instead of adding the HIPS from CFW into CAV to give it a BB, Comodo moved CAV into CFW and borrowed the exiting HIPS from CFW. When I trialed CFW many years ago, I thought HIPS was enabled by default. Wonder what made them change their stance. |
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