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  #16  
Old January 23rd 10, 10:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default How to get and install OE?

He reinstalled XP therefore OE exists on his system.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Jorge Cerva tes wrote:

how about installing OE on Windows 7 machine?


When it was supported, OE came bundled with IE. OE has long been
unsupported. It is a dead program. The last program updates were back in
2002 with one later functional change in SP-2 for Windows XP (to add
registry hacks for top/bottom-posting and signature placement). The
development team disbanded in 2006. You cannot get OE separately from IE.
They came bundled together. As of IE7 and later, OE is no longer bundled
with IE. Microsoft isn't going to bundle unsupported products with
supported products.

Vista comes with IE7 and Windows 7 comes with IE8 as their baseline
versions
of that web browser. You cannot install earlier versions of IE on those
Windows platforms.

You could run VirtualPC, VMWare Server, VirtualBox, or other virtual
machine
managers (VMM) on Vista, install a pre-Vista version of Windows in a
virtual
machine, and have OE running inside that virtual machine. That requires
installing the VMM, installing an OS in a virtual machine (VM), and then
load that VM when you want to run OE. A lot of work and nuisance to run a
long-dead e-mail client.

Windows Mail (WM) is the e-mail client included in Windows Vista. Windows
Live Mail (WLM) is the replacement for both OE and WM. Windows 7 does not
come with an e-mail client so you will have to install one.

http://download.live.com

After installing just WLM, go into Add/Remove Programs and uninstall the
extra fluff software that Microsoft pushes onto you. While WLM is
reminiscent of OE, it has some functional differences. The WLM newsgroup
is
at:

microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop



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  #17  
Old January 23rd 10, 10:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default How to get and install OE?

He reinstalled XP therefore OE exists on his system.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Jorge Cerva tes wrote:

how about installing OE on Windows 7 machine?


When it was supported, OE came bundled with IE. OE has long been
unsupported. It is a dead program. The last program updates were back in
2002 with one later functional change in SP-2 for Windows XP (to add
registry hacks for top/bottom-posting and signature placement). The
development team disbanded in 2006. You cannot get OE separately from IE.
They came bundled together. As of IE7 and later, OE is no longer bundled
with IE. Microsoft isn't going to bundle unsupported products with
supported products.

Vista comes with IE7 and Windows 7 comes with IE8 as their baseline
versions
of that web browser. You cannot install earlier versions of IE on those
Windows platforms.

You could run VirtualPC, VMWare Server, VirtualBox, or other virtual
machine
managers (VMM) on Vista, install a pre-Vista version of Windows in a
virtual
machine, and have OE running inside that virtual machine. That requires
installing the VMM, installing an OS in a virtual machine (VM), and then
load that VM when you want to run OE. A lot of work and nuisance to run a
long-dead e-mail client.

Windows Mail (WM) is the e-mail client included in Windows Vista. Windows
Live Mail (WLM) is the replacement for both OE and WM. Windows 7 does not
come with an e-mail client so you will have to install one.

http://download.live.com

After installing just WLM, go into Add/Remove Programs and uninstall the
extra fluff software that Microsoft pushes onto you. While WLM is
reminiscent of OE, it has some functional differences. The WLM newsgroup
is
at:

microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop



  #18  
Old January 23rd 10, 11:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default How to get and install OE?

Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
I understand that OE is no longer available. But OE works just fine in
three of my XP computers for reading newsgroups.
Recently, I reformatted and re-installed WinXP SP3 on one of the
computer. I missed OE. How can I get and re-install OE? There must be a
trick to do it? Jorge



OE is a part of IE6 and XP, so it is already on your machine, somewhere.

Copy this:

c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

Start | Run and Paste it in | OK.

Now go to the Control Panel | Set Program Access and Defaults and set OE
as default and then you should have the shortcut.

Outlook Express General newsgroup:

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ress.ge neral
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA



  #19  
Old January 23rd 10, 11:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default How to get and install OE?

Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
I understand that OE is no longer available. But OE works just fine in
three of my XP computers for reading newsgroups.
Recently, I reformatted and re-installed WinXP SP3 on one of the
computer. I missed OE. How can I get and re-install OE? There must be a
trick to do it? Jorge



OE is a part of IE6 and XP, so it is already on your machine, somewhere.

Copy this:

c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

Start | Run and Paste it in | OK.

Now go to the Control Panel | Set Program Access and Defaults and set OE
as default and then you should have the shortcut.

Outlook Express General newsgroup:

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ress.ge neral
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA



  #20  
Old January 23rd 10, 11:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Jorge Cerva tes
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Default How to get and install OE?

Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?


In the past, I have done reformat and re-install WinXP Pro many times. In
the past, OE is automatically showed up.
I have never looked at add/remove windows compnents. This time, OE did not
show up. So I thought that automatic IE8 installation excluded OE.




"Unknown" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
I understand that OE is no longer available. But OE works just fine in
three of my XP computers for reading newsgroups.
Recently, I reformatted and re-installed WinXP SP3 on one of the
computer. I missed OE. How can I get and re-install OE? There must be
a trick to do it? Jorge



OE is a part of IE6 and XP, so it is already on your machine, somewhere.

Copy this:

c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

Start | Run and Paste it in | OK.

Now go to the Control Panel | Set Program Access and Defaults and set OE
as default and then you should have the shortcut.

Outlook Express General newsgroup:

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ress.ge neral
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA





  #21  
Old January 23rd 10, 11:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
Jorge Cerva tes
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Posts: 10
Default How to get and install OE?

Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?


In the past, I have done reformat and re-install WinXP Pro many times. In
the past, OE is automatically showed up.
I have never looked at add/remove windows compnents. This time, OE did not
show up. So I thought that automatic IE8 installation excluded OE.




"Unknown" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
I understand that OE is no longer available. But OE works just fine in
three of my XP computers for reading newsgroups.
Recently, I reformatted and re-installed WinXP SP3 on one of the
computer. I missed OE. How can I get and re-install OE? There must be
a trick to do it? Jorge



OE is a part of IE6 and XP, so it is already on your machine, somewhere.

Copy this:

c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

Start | Run and Paste it in | OK.

Now go to the Control Panel | Set Program Access and Defaults and set OE
as default and then you should have the shortcut.

Outlook Express General newsgroup:

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ress.ge neral
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA





  #22  
Old January 23rd 10, 11:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default How to get and install OE?

But, did you check add/remove windows components? Perhaps many things have
changed
since you last reinstalled. IE is OE checked in add/remove components?
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?


In the past, I have done reformat and re-install WinXP Pro many times. In
the past, OE is automatically showed up.
I have never looked at add/remove windows compnents. This time, OE did
not show up. So I thought that automatic IE8 installation excluded OE.




"Unknown" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
I understand that OE is no longer available. But OE works just fine in
three of my XP computers for reading newsgroups.
Recently, I reformatted and re-installed WinXP SP3 on one of the
computer. I missed OE. How can I get and re-install OE? There must be
a trick to do it? Jorge


OE is a part of IE6 and XP, so it is already on your machine, somewhere.

Copy this:

c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

Start | Run and Paste it in | OK.

Now go to the Control Panel | Set Program Access and Defaults and set OE
as default and then you should have the shortcut.

Outlook Express General newsgroup:

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ress.ge neral
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA







  #23  
Old January 23rd 10, 11:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Posts: 6,007
Default How to get and install OE?


But, did you check add/remove windows components? Perhaps many things have
changed
since you last reinstalled. IE is OE checked in add/remove components?
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?


In the past, I have done reformat and re-install WinXP Pro many times. In
the past, OE is automatically showed up.
I have never looked at add/remove windows compnents. This time, OE did
not show up. So I thought that automatic IE8 installation excluded OE.




"Unknown" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is not selected in add/remove windows components in control
panel?
"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
...
"Jorge Cerva tes" wrote in message
...
I understand that OE is no longer available. But OE works just fine in
three of my XP computers for reading newsgroups.
Recently, I reformatted and re-installed WinXP SP3 on one of the
computer. I missed OE. How can I get and re-install OE? There must be
a trick to do it? Jorge


OE is a part of IE6 and XP, so it is already on your machine, somewhere.

Copy this:

c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

Start | Run and Paste it in | OK.

Now go to the Control Panel | Set Program Access and Defaults and set OE
as default and then you should have the shortcut.

Outlook Express General newsgroup:

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general

On the Web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...ress.ge neral
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA







  #24  
Old January 23rd 10, 11:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default How to get and install OE?

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
Jorge Cerva tes wrote:

... Windows 7 ...


The Microsoft community for Windows 7 is found at:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...tegory/w7itpro


And there is already a newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general
(in fact there are also three nl [Dutch] and two it [Italian] ones too).
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  #25  
Old January 24th 10, 07:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default How to get and install OE?

Unknown wrote:

He reinstalled XP therefore OE exists on his system.


Read ALL posts in this subthread, including the OP's own reply. Explain how
you missed that he asked about using OE under */Windows 7/*.
  #26  
Old January 24th 10, 07:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Posts: 10,881
Default How to get and install OE?

Unknown wrote:

He reinstalled XP therefore OE exists on his system.


Read ALL posts in this subthread, including the OP's own reply. Explain how
you missed that he asked about using OE under */Windows 7/*.
  #27  
Old January 24th 10, 07:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default How to get and install OE?

John wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Jorge wrote:

... Windows 7 ...


The Microsoft community for Windows 7 is found at:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...tegory/w7itpro


And there is already a newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general
(in fact there are also three nl [Dutch] and two it [Italian] ones too).


Which is NOT a pervasive newsgroup. Not many NNTP servers carry it (yet).
It is also under the WRONG hierarchy. Microsoft also seems bent on
abandoning its attempt to usurp Usenet with its pretend forums and
gatewaying them to Usenet and instead migrating to forums.
  #28  
Old January 24th 10, 07:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default How to get and install OE?

John wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Jorge wrote:

... Windows 7 ...


The Microsoft community for Windows 7 is found at:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...tegory/w7itpro


And there is already a newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general
(in fact there are also three nl [Dutch] and two it [Italian] ones too).


Which is NOT a pervasive newsgroup. Not many NNTP servers carry it (yet).
It is also under the WRONG hierarchy. Microsoft also seems bent on
abandoning its attempt to usurp Usenet with its pretend forums and
gatewaying them to Usenet and instead migrating to forums.
  #29  
Old January 24th 10, 11:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Posts: 5,291
Default How to get and install OE?

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
John wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Jorge wrote:

... Windows 7 ...

The Microsoft community for Windows 7 is found at:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...tegory/w7itpro


And there is already a newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general
(in fact there are also three nl [Dutch] and two it [Italian] ones too).


Which is NOT a pervasive newsgroup. Not many NNTP servers carry it (yet).


It's on all 3 of the ones I use (Teranews, free after initial signup;
eternal-september, free; and my ISP, PlusNet, which I think is Giganews
in disguise).

It is also under the WRONG hierarchy. Microsoft also seems bent on


ALT is not "wrong". OK, it doesn't start with microsoft ...

abandoning its attempt to usurp Usenet with its pretend forums and
gatewaying them to Usenet and instead migrating to forums.


.... which could therefore be seen as a good thing.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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  #30  
Old January 25th 10, 12:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.newusers
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Default How to get and install OE?

I think you are confused. Reread his post. He is indicating that he doesn't
have OE
after reinstalling XP. He reinstalled "XP" therefore OE is on his computer.
To activate it, go to control panel add/remove and then add/remove windows
components.
Put an X in the box labeled Outlook express.
OE cannot be used with Windows 7.
"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:

He reinstalled XP therefore OE exists on his system.


Read ALL posts in this subthread, including the OP's own reply. Explain
how
you missed that he asked about using OE under */Windows 7/*.



 




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