Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:00:57 -0400, Agent_C wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:42:24 +0000 (UTC), Robin T Cockslee
wrote:

Linux just does everything I need[...]

Your needs must be very rudimentary.

So what is it you do on your Windows conmputer that you imagine can't be
done on a Linux box?

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RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:56:05 +0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:17:34 -0500, Quantum Leaper wrote:

I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other than
getting a new Computer.

Obviously, or people wouldn't be using Windows. But as the economy
continues to tank that may change. People may not have the ability to buy
a new Windows computer every other year. They might have to make do with
their "old" computer.

The economy is having an impact on upgrades not only for home
users but for big companies as well. Also the speed and
practicality limit seems to have been reached. What I mean by that
is we have reached a point where the next and next after that
generation of desktop computers are not really offering any
tangible differences to the end user. How much processing power
does one need to run office, send email and so forth.
Laptops are a little different because advances in size, weight
and battery life are pretty big between generations. This too will
begin to slow down at some point as well.

On 10/24/2010 11:06, Quantum Leaper wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 10/24/2010 04:17 PM, Quantum Leaper wrote:
I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other
than getting a new Computer.

I assume you mean most people in the USA. Here in Spain, most people
buy computers to order unless it's a laptop and I know many people
who own laptops and the first thing they did was nuke Windows and
install Linux.
If that was the truth, then way does Linux have less then 5% of the
desktops?


Only reason to "nuke" Windows and install Linutz is that the Windows
installation was pirated, and the user wasn't bright enough to turn in
the pirate business that sold the computer.

On 10/24/2010 13:56, RonB wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:17:34 -0500, Quantum Leaper wrote:

I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other than
getting a new Computer.

Obviously, or people wouldn't be using Windows. But as the economy
continues to tank that may change. People may not have the ability to buy
a new Windows computer every other year. They might have to make do with
their "old" computer.


Funny how in the past year with the "economy tanking" Linutz has gone
from 1.00% in November 2009 to 0.85% September 2010. that equates to a
15% drop in installs/usage in 10 months.
(you can track it at "netmarket share")

On 10/24/2010 2:03 PM, Glenn Hall wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:56:05 +0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:17:34 -0500, Quantum Leaper wrote:

I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other than
getting a new Computer.

Obviously, or people wouldn't be using Windows. But as the economy
continues to tank that may change. People may not have the ability to buy
a new Windows computer every other year. They might have to make do with
their "old" computer.

The economy is having an impact on upgrades not only for home
users but for big companies as well. Also the speed and
practicality limit seems to have been reached. What I mean by that
is we have reached a point where the next and next after that
generation of desktop computers are not really offering any
tangible differences to the end user. How much processing power
does one need to run office, send email and so forth.
Laptops are a little different because advances in size, weight
and battery life are pretty big between generations. This too will
begin to slow down at some point as well.

You do know that buying a computer from a business perspective is an
expenditure that can be written off.

I see companies going to Vista and Win 7 as I contract in them. Vista
and Win 7 were big jumps over XP under the hood and they are better
protected O/S(s) than XP.

People can't buy a new computer right now, a whole lot of them, and they
are not going to Linux. If they buy a new computer, they are still not
going to Linux. It's that simple. If they were going to Linux, they (the
masses) would have been using it long ago.

Your bet hinges upon the world economy damn near collapsing, before
Linux is accepted by the masses. It's not going to happen.

On 10/24/2010 14:27, Big Steel wrote:
On 10/24/2010 2:03 PM, Glenn Hall wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:56:05 +0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:17:34 -0500, Quantum Leaper wrote:

I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other
than
getting a new Computer.

Obviously, or people wouldn't be using Windows. But as the economy
continues to tank that may change. People may not have the ability to
buy
a new Windows computer every other year. They might have to make do with
their "old" computer.

The economy is having an impact on upgrades not only for home
users but for big companies as well. Also the speed and
practicality limit seems to have been reached. What I mean by that
is we have reached a point where the next and next after that
generation of desktop computers are not really offering any
tangible differences to the end user. How much processing power
does one need to run office, send email and so forth.
Laptops are a little different because advances in size, weight
and battery life are pretty big between generations. This too will
begin to slow down at some point as well.

You do know that buying a computer from a business perspective is an
expenditure that can be written off.

I see companies going to Vista and Win 7 as I contract in them. Vista
and Win 7 were big jumps over XP under the hood and they are better
protected O/S(s) than XP.

People can't buy a new computer right now, a whole lot of them, and they
are not going to Linux. If they buy a new computer, they are still not
going to Linux. It's that simple. If they were going to Linux, they (the
masses) would have been using it long ago.

Your bet hinges upon the world economy damn near collapsing, before
Linux is accepted by the masses. It's not going to happen.


Speaking of economy, over at Dell, the cost to "offer Linutz" is higher
than reloading Windows 7 OEM. Same netbook was 20 bucks cheaper if you
bought it with Windows 7. If you were adamant about having Linutz, it's
cheaper to buy the Win7 one and reload it yourself.

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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:35:12 +0000, Student wrote:

Having paid 100 dollars for windows 7 home premium oem one year ago i
consider it the best bargain in the world for me as I value my time

I value my time also -- that's why I like Linux. Faster booting, less
disk
thrashing when the OS is booted, no anti-malware or anti-virus worries
(no
lost time to the constant updates required for those applications) and an
easy path to updating the OS *and* the applications all at the same time
with one command.

Nothing like that in the Windows world.


I use Windows (7) because the programs I use run under Windows.

BTW no problem, no crash, no BSOD, some bugs in one program but nothing to
do with Windows.


In short: A happy windows user, like 90% of desktop computer users
worldwide!

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:04:46 -0500, Bob I wrote:


Only reason to "nuke" Windows and install Linutz is that the Windows
installation was pirated, and the user wasn't bright enough to turn in
the pirate business that sold the computer.

Linutz?
Never heard of it.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:27:46 -0500, Steel wrote:


You do know that buying a computer from a business perspective is an
expenditure that can be written off.

Of course, but when a company is sturggling to produce product
upgrading their computer systems which may have been upgraded 3
years ago becomes less of a priority.

I see companies going to Vista and Win 7 as I contract in them. Vista
and Win 7 were big jumps over XP under the hood and they are better
protected O/S(s) than XP.

I saw very little movement to Vista but Windows 7 planned upgrades
seem to be doing better.
Still it's much slower than in the past as people and companies
keep their hardware and software longer.

People can't buy a new computer right now, a whole lot of them, and they
are not going to Linux. If they buy a new computer, they are still not
going to Linux. It's that simple. If they were going to Linux, they (the
masses) would have been using it long ago.

That's because Windows is force fed to them and they don't know
any differently.
Linux isn't for everyone but it can do most of what Windows can do
and it can do it with better security and less cost.

Your bet hinges upon the world economy damn near collapsing, before
Linux is accepted by the masses. It's not going to happen.

The world economy almost collapsed last year.
It still may happen.
Whether it will result in people switching to Linux I don't know.
I doubt it though as being able to find food and shelter is going
to be the big problem.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:50:52 +0200, Clogwog wrote:


In short: A happy windows user, like 90% of desktop computer users
worldwide!

Happy because they are ignorant and don't know any better.
They think constantly rebooting, virus problems and so forth are
normal.
It's like a guy who has been wearing $99.00 suits all his life
and is happy.
Put him in a $1000.00 suit and he will be happier.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:40:32 -0500, Bob I wrote:

Speaking of economy, over at Dell, the cost to "offer Linutz" is higher
than reloading Windows 7 OEM. Same netbook was 20 bucks cheaper if you
bought it with Windows 7. If you were adamant about having Linutz, it's
cheaper to buy the Win7 one and reload it yourself.

Never used "Linutz" -- you're pet name for Windows 7 Basic, or something?

--
RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 15:57:10 -0400, Glenn Hall wrote:

The world economy almost collapsed last year. It still may happen.
Whether it will result in people switching to Linux I don't know. I
doubt it though as being able to find food and shelter is going to be
the big problem.

People would just pirate Windows, like they do now. If Microsoft could
really stop people pirating their software, that would be more damaging to
their "market share" than about anything else.

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RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

On 10/24/2010 1:29 PM, Glenn Hall wrote:
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:50:52 +0200, Clogwog wrote:


In short: A happy windows user, like 90% of desktop computer users
worldwide!

Happy because they are ignorant and don't know any better.

Is that the best you can come up with? So you think over 90% of computer
users, worldwide are ignorant? And most of the very successful
mega-corporations use Windows...are they too ignorant?

They think constantly rebooting, virus problems and so forth are
normal.

Obviously, you're too broke to afford a legit copy of Windows 7 because
you soon learn that none of that happens in 7.
Oops!

It's like a guy who has been wearing $99.00 suits all his life
and is happy.
Put him in a $1000.00 suit and he will be happier.

hehehe...you just proved what a dumb **** you are. Give someone a copy
of that POS toy os that is free and watch him throw it away in a pair of
seconds and switch to $179USD legit copy of Windows 7 and never look back.
Oh and the facts speak for themselves.
BTW, when are you going to leave your Mom's basement?
LoL!!!

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:18:09 -0500, Bob I wrote:

Funny how in the past year with the "economy tanking" Linutz has gone
from 1.00% in November 2009 to 0.85% September 2010. that equates to a
15% drop in installs/usage in 10 months.
(you can track it at "netmarket share")

If there has been a drop in Linux usage (I doubt it) it's because Asus and
several other netbook manufacturers bowed to Microsoft pressure and turned
their SSD netbooks into small (and more expensive) notebooks. But
basically I think it comes down to "figures don't lie, but liars figure."

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RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:04:46 -0500, Bob I wrote:

Only reason to "nuke" Windows and install Linutz is that the Windows
installation was pirated, and the user wasn't bright enough to turn in
the pirate business that sold the computer.

Well, that and security... and reliability... and speed... and a superior
update system... and... well, the general superiority of Linux.

Oh, wait a minute, you're talking about "Linutz." You're pet name for
Vista?

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RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0