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  #46  
Old August 9th 14, 11:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Brian Gregory
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On 09/08/2014 23:42, Mayayana wrote:
| You say "always," but I assume you mean "often." I use it very
| seldom. What are some of things you use it for, things "you can't do
| efficiently without using the command line"?
|
|
| Yes correct 'often'.
|
| copy *.doc backups
| cd backups
| ren *.doc *.doc.bak
|

I drag that folder onto the Desktop icon for
one of my backup drives and I drop it. Then I click
"Yes to all" (overwrite files with the same name)
and I'm done. You're probably just about getting your
console window open by now. And of course you'll
need to cd to your docs folder first.



I only want to backup the *.doc files.
Or the *.asm or *.68h or sect*.asm files or whatever I typed.

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  #47  
Old August 10th 14, 12:14 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:42:34 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

| You say "always," but I assume you mean "often." I use it very
| seldom. What are some of things you use it for, things "you can't do
| efficiently without using the command line"?
|
|
| Yes correct 'often'.
|
| copy *.doc backups
| cd backups
| ren *.doc *.doc.bak
|

I drag that folder onto the Desktop icon for
one of my backup drives and I drop it. Then I click
"Yes to all" (overwrite files with the same name)
and I'm done. You're probably just about getting your
console window open by now. And of course you'll
need to cd to your docs folder first.




Ditto.
  #48  
Old August 10th 14, 12:15 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:56:59 +0100, Brian Gregory
wrote:

On 09/08/2014 23:42, Mayayana wrote:
| You say "always," but I assume you mean "often." I use it very
| seldom. What are some of things you use it for, things "you can't do
| efficiently without using the command line"?
|
|
| Yes correct 'often'.
|
| copy *.doc backups
| cd backups
| ren *.doc *.doc.bak
|

I drag that folder onto the Desktop icon for
one of my backup drives and I drop it. Then I click
"Yes to all" (overwrite files with the same name)
and I'm done. You're probably just about getting your
console window open by now. And of course you'll
need to cd to your docs folder first.



I only want to backup the *.doc files.
Or the *.asm or *.68h or sect*.asm files or whatever I typed.



Sort by extension, then it's easy to select just the ones you want
with shift-click.

  #49  
Old August 10th 14, 12:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Bert wrote:
In A wrote:

Bert wrote:
You might also provide a list of products that are bug free.


Hammer
Saw
Screwdriver
Paper
Ball point pen
Guitar
Oboe
Drinking glass
Wine glass
etc.

Need more?


No one has ever hurt themselves with a hammer, saw or screwdriver? Never
had a paper cut? Never made a spelling error or written something
entirely nonsensical with a ball point pen? Don't get me started about
the horrors inflicted with oboes.

I could go on ...


Those aren't bugs in the product. Those are results of the user not
using them properly.

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  #50  
Old August 10th 14, 12:51 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
XS11E
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Bert wrote:

Don't get me started about the horrors inflicted with oboes.


Nothing compared with the unbearable evil of the accordion...

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  #51  
Old August 10th 14, 12:54 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Barnes[_2_]
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A wrote:
Bert wrote:
In A wrote:

Bert wrote:
You might also provide a list of products that are bug free.

Hammer
Saw
Screwdriver
Paper
Ball point pen
Guitar
Oboe
Drinking glass
Wine glass
etc.

Need more?


No one has ever hurt themselves with a hammer, saw or screwdriver? Never
had a paper cut? Never made a spelling error or written something
entirely nonsensical with a ball point pen? Don't get me started about
the horrors inflicted with oboes.

I could go on ...


Those aren't bugs in the product. Those are results of the user not
using them properly.


That makes sense only if you can point us to the specifications of the
products.

WIWAL, "bug" = "undocumented feature".

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  #52  
Old August 10th 14, 01:39 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Darth_Hideous
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On 2014-08-09, A wrote:
Bert wrote:
In A wrote:

Bert wrote:
You might also provide a list of products that are bug free.

Hammer
Saw
Screwdriver
Paper
Ball point pen
Guitar
Oboe
Drinking glass
Wine glass
etc.

Need more?


No one has ever hurt themselves with a hammer, saw or screwdriver? Never
had a paper cut? Never made a spelling error or written something
entirely nonsensical with a ball point pen? Don't get me started about
the horrors inflicted with oboes.

I could go on ...


Those aren't bugs in the product. Those are results of the user not
using them properly.


My ball point pen ran out of ink.
Bic will not offer future updates for that pen, they want me to throw it
away and get a new one.
They knew it would run out of ink, yet sold it to me anyway.
I can't believe they left me out to hang like that.
Maybe a 2 cent upgrade path should have been offered.
I play crossword puzzles with that pen.
I've been advised to try a Linux pen, but that is just a twig off a
dead tree.
It rips the crossword paper, and could potentially poke an eye.

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  #53  
Old August 10th 14, 01:40 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
. . .winston
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A wrote:
Bert wrote:
You might also provide a list of products that are bug free.


Hammer
Saw
Screwdriver
Paper
Ball point pen
Guitar
Oboe
Drinking glass
Wine glass
etc.

Need more?



I've have and had quite a few guitars in my life and every single one of
them needed some form of adjustment or another (new and used).

In fact the cost of desired work and maintenance for all of them (new
and used) over the years easily surpasses Windows related costs.


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  #54  
Old August 10th 14, 01:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
A
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Darth_Hideous wrote:
On 2014-08-09, A wrote:
Bert wrote:
In A wrote:

Bert wrote:
You might also provide a list of products that are bug free.

Hammer
Saw
Screwdriver
Paper
Ball point pen
Guitar
Oboe
Drinking glass
Wine glass
etc.

Need more?

No one has ever hurt themselves with a hammer, saw or screwdriver? Never
had a paper cut? Never made a spelling error or written something
entirely nonsensical with a ball point pen? Don't get me started about
the horrors inflicted with oboes.

I could go on ...


Those aren't bugs in the product. Those are results of the user not
using them properly.


My ball point pen ran out of ink.
Bic will not offer future updates for that pen, they want me to throw it
away and get a new one.
They knew it would run out of ink, yet sold it to me anyway.
I can't believe they left me out to hang like that.
Maybe a 2 cent upgrade path should have been offered.
I play crossword puzzles with that pen.
I've been advised to try a Linux pen, but that is just a twig off a
dead tree.
It rips the crossword paper, and could potentially poke an eye.


Buy an ink pen and lots of ink. Then STFU.

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  #55  
Old August 10th 14, 01:42 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
. . .winston
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XS11E wrote:
Bert wrote:

Don't get me started about the horrors inflicted with oboes.


Nothing compared with the unbearable evil of the accordion...


Guess you never polka-ed.



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  #56  
Old August 10th 14, 01:47 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Darth_Hideous
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On 2014-08-10, A wrote:
Darth_Hideous wrote:


[SNAP]


Those aren't bugs in the product. Those are results of the user not
using them properly.


My ball point pen ran out of ink.
Bic will not offer future updates for that pen, they want me to throw it
away and get a new one.
They knew it would run out of ink, yet sold it to me anyway.
I can't believe they left me out to hang like that.
Maybe a 2 cent upgrade path should have been offered.
I play crossword puzzles with that pen.
I've been advised to try a Linux pen, but that is just a twig off a
dead tree.
It rips the crossword paper, and could potentially poke an eye.


Buy an ink pen and lots of ink. Then STFU.


I like the twig now.
Save The Flying Unicorn?

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  #57  
Old August 10th 14, 01:52 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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| I only want to backup the *.doc files.
| Or the *.asm or *.68h or sect*.asm files or whatever I typed.
|

It's hard for me to picture such a scenario,
where I'd want to back up all files of a single
type in folder, but not back up any others.
Perhaps you organize to favor the keyboard
because you like it? Your description sounds to
me like a situation where it's merely feasible to
use DOS, not awkward to use Explorer.

I organize in folders by relation. This afternoon
I was working on a website. 40-50 files in a
folder with several subfolders. I changed about
10 files -- 1 GIF, 2 JPG, several HTML, a couple
of CSS. When I was done I dropped the parent
folder into the main websites folder on a backup
drive. Done. And I don't have to keep track of
which files I changed. I suppose that if I did
that all day there'd be more wear and tear on
the disk, but in normal usage it's no big deal to
just copy the whole folder.


  #58  
Old August 10th 14, 02:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 8/9/14 8:46 AM, Darth_Hideous wrote:
On 2014-08-09, Mayayana wrote:


snip

1) | Linux runs Firefox, TBird, Chrome, Spreadsheets, etc.
| It's for everyone.

Linux doesn't support most of the software people
use, and to make matters worse, the Linux fanclub
won't admit that. GIMP has been unusable for 20


I listed most of the software people use.


No, you didn't. You listed 3 programs and a type of program. And of
the 3 programs, TBird is an email client, and I believe email clients
are being used by fewer and fewer users.

But the most widely used programs, most likely, are those of MS Office,
of which Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook are not supported on Linux.

I use Gimp all the time.
Works fine.


I don't think it's a question of working or not working, but how well
does it work, is it efficient and easy to use, and have the same feature
set as Photoshop.


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  #59  
Old August 10th 14, 02:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 8/9/14 8:34 AM, Mayayana wrote:

snip
There was an article just recently about how XP
is getting infected less than Vista/7:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...ays-microsoft/


I think the real question should be why XP is getting infected less.
There could be a dozen reasons for this.




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  #60  
Old August 10th 14, 02:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Darth_Hideous
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On 2014-08-10, Ken Springer wrote:
On 8/9/14 8:46 AM, Darth_Hideous wrote:
On 2014-08-09, Mayayana wrote:


snip

1) | Linux runs Firefox, TBird, Chrome, Spreadsheets, etc.
| It's for everyone.

Linux doesn't support most of the software people
use, and to make matters worse, the Linux fanclub
won't admit that. GIMP has been unusable for 20


I listed most of the software people use.


No, you didn't. You listed 3 programs and a type of program. And of
the 3 programs, TBird is an email client, and I believe email clients
are being used by fewer and fewer users.

But the most widely used programs, most likely, are those of MS Office,
of which Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook are not supported on Linux.


Libre Office.
That was the etc part after Spreadsheets.


I use Gimp all the time.
Works fine.


I don't think it's a question of working or not working, but how well
does it work, is it efficient and easy to use, and have the same feature
set as Photoshop.



It works well.
It's efficient, easy to use, has more features than Photoshop.
But, as I don't use PS, nor do I intend to, it's a moot point.


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