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  #16  
Old March 21st 15, 10:01 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
T
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On 03/21/2015 06:32 AM, ~BD~ wrote:
On 21/03/2015 06:48, T wrote:
On 03/20/2015 03:04 PM, wrote:
I just downloaded a free copy of Glary Utilities Pro, an offer from
CNET. How
reliable and safe are these utility programs that supposedly clean up
your
Windows system? I just ran one thing, which searched for empty folders
on my
system, and it found 4,400 of them. I manually checked a number and
sure enough,
they were empty folders. So, I deleted them (but they're still in my
recycle bin
for now.) So are programs like this safe to use? I donwloaded this one
because
it was a CNET offer and I always took them to be reliable. Thanks.


Hi rfdjr1,

If you are suffering from junkware due to this, drop me
a line under a new thread (Ping Todd) and I will
walk you through how to remove it/them

-T


That is a very kind gesture. Good for you! :-)

Do you have a view on the effectiveness of CCleaner from Piriform?

https://www.piriform.com


Hi BD,

More trouble than it is worth. I have seen it do more harm than
good. When I find it installed, I remove it as part of my
junkware clean up.

Piriform's unbearably ssssslllloooowww Defraggler seems to
be a good product. (There are alternatives.)

-T
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  #20  
Old March 22nd 15, 01:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
~BD~[_6_]
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On 22/03/2015 12:13, FredW wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:01:24 -0700, T wrote:

Do you have a view on the effectiveness of CCleaner from Piriform?

https://www.piriform.com


More trouble than it is worth. I have seen it do more harm than
good. When I find it installed, I remove it as part of my
junkware clean up.

Piriform's unbearably ssssslllloooowww Defraggler seems to
be a good product. (There are alternatives.)



Do you really compare CCleaner with Defraggler,
software with totally different purposes?

CCleaner is a very good cleaner, probably the best available.
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds
(but use only the cleaner function.)
Considering CCleaner as junkware is stupid.

Defraggler is one of many programs to defrag a hard drive.

You must be clueless when you think they can be compared.


So who is the more qualified to judge?

You or 'T'?

It's only a short while ago that you mistakenly classed BD as a troll -
a totally misleading comment.

Btw, I don't think 'T' *was* comparing the two products!

  #21  
Old March 22nd 15, 01:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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In message , ~BD~
writes:
On 22/03/2015 12:13, FredW wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:01:24 -0700, T wrote:

Do you have a view on the effectiveness of CCleaner from Piriform?

https://www.piriform.com

More trouble than it is worth. I have seen it do more harm than
good. When I find it installed, I remove it as part of my
junkware clean up.

Piriform's unbearably ssssslllloooowww Defraggler seems to
be a good product. (There are alternatives.)



Do you really compare CCleaner with Defraggler,
software with totally different purposes?

CCleaner is a very good cleaner, probably the best available.
https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds
(but use only the cleaner function.)
Considering CCleaner as junkware is stupid.

Defraggler is one of many programs to defrag a hard drive.

You must be clueless when you think they can be compared.


So who is the more qualified to judge?

You or 'T'?

It's only a short while ago that you mistakenly classed BD as a troll -
a totally misleading comment.

Btw, I don't think 'T' *was* comparing the two products!

No, he wasn't; he only mentioned them together since they come from the
same company.
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  #23  
Old March 22nd 15, 02:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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| I am very sorry, but someone who calls CCleaner junkware (to be cleaned
| up) is clueless to me.
|

I find it mysterious that CCleaner has such a
devoted following. The same fervor is displayed
every time it's mentioned. Several people have
expressed an opinion that such utilities are mostly
snake oil, without any disagrement voiced. Yet
with the mention of CCleaner the fan club gets
angry.

On their website they claim to clean up junk files:
OK, but Windows can do that.... Delete browser
history: Browsers can do that.... Clean the Registry:
Risky business that provides no benefit. The logic
for Registry cleaners simply doesn't hold water. That
topic has been discussed many times before. And that
list of functions sounds to me like a dozen other similar
"PC tune-up" programs. They all provide the same
function: They're equivalent to waxing your car and
hanging a new perfumed paper pine tree from the
rear view mirror. It won't help your car to run better,
but it does provide a sense of having cleaned up and
improved one's car. And the benefit is in reverse
proportion to one's understanding of cars. The less
one knows about mechanics, and the more one projects
an animistic personality onto one's car, the better those
rituals seem to work and the more one's car seems to
appreciate the effort.


  #24  
Old March 22nd 15, 03:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Alek
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Mayayana wrote on 3/22/2015 9:46 AM:
| I am very sorry, but someone who calls CCleaner junkware (to be cleaned
| up) is clueless to me.
|

I find it mysterious that CCleaner has such a
devoted following. The same fervor is displayed
every time it's mentioned. Several people have
expressed an opinion that such utilities are mostly
snake oil, without any disagrement voiced. Yet
with the mention of CCleaner the fan club gets
angry.

On their website they claim to clean up junk files:
OK, but Windows can do that.... Delete browser
history: Browsers can do that....


But CCleaner does it in one fell swoop!

  #25  
Old March 22nd 15, 11:19 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 22/03/2015 12:36, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , ~BD~
writes:


[....]
Btw, I don't think 'T' *was* comparing the two products!

No, he wasn't; he only mentioned them together since they come from the
same company.


Thanks for that, John! :-)
  #26  
Old March 22nd 15, 11:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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| As I said befo use ONLY the cleaner function of CCleaner.
|
| Did you ever look or try?

I looked today, as I described above. I've never
tried it. I didn't see anything listed that made sense,
so I see no point in trying it. I don't need a utility
to clean files or browser history or Registry settings.
(Maybe the latter is not included in what you call
"ONLY the cleaner", but you didn't explain that, so
I don't know.)

| The Slim and the Portable version do not contain crapware.

I don't suspect it of containing crapware.
I suspect it of being crapware. On the bright
side, cleaning temp files and browser history
is unlikely to do any harm.



  #27  
Old March 23rd 15, 12:26 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 23:02:19 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

Declaring CCleaner to be "crapware" is rather akin to thinking you don't need to
eat your vegetables.


*Please* don't make me eat the broccoli!

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  #28  
Old March 23rd 15, 12:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
~BD~[_6_]
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On 22/03/2015 23:26, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 23:02:19 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

Declaring CCleaner to be "crapware" is rather akin to thinking you don't need to
eat your vegetables.


*Please* don't make me eat the broccoli!


Fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTVs_t7hvbU :-)
  #29  
Old March 23rd 15, 01:14 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 23:02:19 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

Declaring CCleaner to be "crapware" is rather akin to thinking you don't need to
eat your vegetables.




LOL! Well said. I agree.

  #30  
Old March 23rd 15, 01:17 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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On Sun, 22 Mar 2015 23:37:30 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:


I wonder how most broccoli haters, who survive a bout with colon cancer, feel
about that most maligned of vegetables after they pay the medical bills?



As a kid, I always thought broccoli was the worst of all vegetables.
But now, as an adult, I make it myself, and am always careful not to
overcook it; I now like it a lot.

And I've never had colon cancer.

 




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