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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 8/2/2015 12:04 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Jo-Anne wrote: If the files aren't huge, you could email them to yourself as attachments. he said he doesn't want to use the cloud. I thought he meant that he didn't want to put the files into something like Dropbox. -- Jo-Anne |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 8/2/15 8:40 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Ken Springer wrote: I don't own an iPad, so I don't know the intricacies of it, but what you can do depends on whether it's an iPad 1, 2, or 3. But all should have Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi built in. My 5.5 year old iMac has both built in. none of that matters. they all work the same way. The question I'm expressing is, all of them will have one of those two connectivity systems, but do all three have both? As noted elsewhere, I don't have any iOS devices, but I do know there were a lot of things missing from the iPad 1 that were remedied in the iPad 2. I don't know what the improvements/advances/changes are for iPad 3. I know you don't want to use iTunes, but I'd bet that's going to be your easiest route. of course it will be the easiest route. it's *very* easy. It should already be on the iPad. itunes on the ipad is not needed. it's just a music/movie store. it's totally different than itunes on the computer, which includes device management. I don't own any Apple devices, so don't know how the syncing works. who do you think made your 5.5 year old imac? And what does that have to do with the subject? anyway, syncing is very easy. just plug in the ipad (or iphone), click sync and whatever selected music, movies, photos, apps, etc. are copied. it can also be configured to sync automatically and even over wifi so you don't even need to fuss with a cable or click a button. but he wants to do it the hard way. For those that want to use their Apple computers and devices in that way, constantly keeping ever unit updated with each other, the systems work really slick. Myself, I prefer as little cloud use as possible. You've conveniently forgotten that Werner does not own the XP machine, and the *owner* has decided iTunes is not to be used. Read the original post. Dropbox or similar would be my cloud choice if you have an account. I don't care that much for the way it works between computers either, but I don't use the account for those purposes anyway. for 2 movies that might work (assuming it fits within whatever dropbox plan he has), but over time it's going to end up being more than 2 movies. he'll want more after he watches the first two. I'd be willing to bet his friend will eventually want more files. LOL -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 02/08/2015 06:48, Werner Obermeier wrote:
All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad. Just zip the files and email it to yourself which you can then retrieve it using your ipad. Can you not do this? Probably it is rocket science here which none of us would know. |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 2015-08-02, Jo-Anne wrote:
On 8/2/2015 12:04 PM, nospam wrote: In article , Jo-Anne wrote: If the files aren't huge, you could email them to yourself as attachments. he said he doesn't want to use the cloud. I thought he meant that he didn't want to put the files into something like Dropbox. IIRC, the numbskull considers things like email to be "the cloud", and avoids them at all costs. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 2015-08-02, Ken Springer wrote:
You've conveniently forgotten that Werner does not own the XP machine, and the *owner* has decided iTunes is not to be used. Read the original post. Forgot, or recognized as the bull**** it is? This happens to be one of the standard lies the OP tells when he posts here. "I'm using someone else's machine, so installing iTunes is not an option" is part of his modus operandi. He's a lame troll. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 2015-08-02, Good Guy wrote:
On 02/08/2015 06:48, Werner Obermeier wrote: All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad. Just zip the files and email it to yourself which you can then retrieve it using your ipad. Can you not do this? He doesn't want to use the internet. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 8/2/15 8:19 AM, Werner Obermeier wrote:
Ken Springer wrote in : I don't know what you mean by "mount" the iPad. If you mean you would have an icon on the desktop for the iPad just as you would for an external drive, it doesn't work that way AFAIK. After all, the iPad is a computer. That's a good question, especially since Windows users may not be used to "mounting" devices as logical drives. I'd say that's a given. G On Windows, if you plug in, oh, say, an optical DVD disc drive, you'll notice it's automatically "mounted" as, oh, say, "Drive E:". Likewise, if you plug in, oh, say, a USB stick, it's automatically mounted as, oh, say, "Drive F:", labeled "My USB Stick". I think most Windows users are aware of this, but the word "mount" for that is totally foreign. It's the same when you plug in an iPad into Linux. It automatically gets mounted as "iPad" and as "Documents". All the pictures and videos and screenshots are in the "iPad" mount point, while many of the users documents are in the "Documents" mount point. I find that interesting, I would have thought it would show up as a system on the network. These mount points act just like USB sticks do, in that you can copy any file on the iPad over to the Linux machine and vice versa, you can copy any file from the Linux machine over to the iPad, and it all just works. All I want is that same five-second-copy convenience for Windows XP. I don't own an iPad, so I don't know the intricacies of it, but what you can do depends on whether it's an iPad 1, 2, or 3. But all should have Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi built in. My 5.5 year old iMac has both built in. You hit the nail on the head! On Android, for example, it would be trivial to use Bluetooth or WiFi to or from the mobile device and laptop. The task would have been done in five or ten seconds. In this situation, are you connecting directly between the device and laptop, or is there an intermediate device such as a router? It's no so easy with an iPad because it's a very rigidly closed system, so, that is why I am asking for help and advice. I know you don't want to use iTunes, but I'd bet that's going to be your easiest route. It should already be on the iPad. I don't own any Apple devices, so don't know how the syncing works. The so-called iTunes on the iPad isn't even close to the iTunes that is on Windows - but you are wholly correct in that nobody would want to load that thing onto someone else's Windows machine *just* to copy over a couple of files. This does not surprise me. The Apple apps on iPads are not as robust as the same apps installed under OS X. This was one of the downsides of iPads and Minis for me, I wanted them to be identical. Then I learned the same situation applies for Android tablets for apps that are on Windows and Android from what I can tell. Since the Surface tablet runs Windows itself, AIUI, I would think the Surface does not have "cut down" versions if used via the cloud. If it were Android, it would just work by WiFi or Bluetooth, natively, so, that might be an option with the iPad (if WiFi or Bluetooth work). If it were Linux, it would also just work because Linux has MTP drivers which make the iPad a USB device, so, it's as easy as copying over a file to or from a USB stick. The problem is that it's Windows, which I don't know all that well. The only three viable Windows:iPad options I can think of a 1. MTP drivers for Windows to mount the iPad 2. Bluetooth from Windows to the iPad 3. WiFi from Windows to the iPad Depending on the physical situation, possibly networking the two? Dropbox or similar would be my cloud choice if you have an account. I don't care that much for the way it works between computers either, but I don't use the account for those purposes anyway. Using dropbox will work but it's like using hand grenades on gopher holes. Too much overhead, too much effort, and too much disassembly for simply copying two files from Windows to the iPad. Bear in mind that I just did the copy today, and it took seconds, but I had to use sneakernet to put the files on a USB stick from Windows and then to put those files onto Linux. Linux has MTP drivers, so, I then just copied the files from Linux to the iPad over the USB cable that comes with the iPad. I'm thinking you can just connect the USB stick to one or more of those models of iPad, but I could be wrong. But, there must be an easy way to transfer the files from Windows directly to the iPad without having to resort to sneakernet or hand grenades. I'm of the opinion neither MS or Apple want to make things easy for the user in the case of connectivity. Strictly a user perspective. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 8/2/15 11:04 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , Ken Springer wrote: I have my Mac and Windows systems on the same network, hardwired, and it was a PITA to get them to talk to each other. I finally got it done, but not the way I wanted it to. Which is another way of saying, it's not working the way I think it should work. G i don't know what you did, but it's very easy to get a mac and windows system to talk to each other. Which version of OS X are you talking about? Unlike connecting a Windows computer to a Windows network, where the new windows machine show up if sharing is turned on, Macs do not. And the way to get the Mac to connect varies a bit by the version of OS X. And, all of which is not germane to the topic. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 2015-08-02, Ken Springer wrote:
On 8/2/15 11:04 AM, nospam wrote: In article , Ken Springer wrote: I have my Mac and Windows systems on the same network, hardwired, and it was a PITA to get them to talk to each other. I finally got it done, but not the way I wanted it to. Which is another way of saying, it's not working the way I think it should work. G i don't know what you did, but it's very easy to get a mac and windows system to talk to each other. Which version of OS X are you talking about? Unlike connecting a Windows computer to a Windows network, where the new windows machine show up if sharing is turned on, Macs do not. They certainly do show up on any Macs on the network. It's Windows PCs that can't seem to see them automatically. So Windows PCs see other Windows PCs, and Macs see other Macs. Somehow this must be Apple's fault. Funny. : ) And the way to get the Mac to connect varies a bit by the version of OS X. It's still very easy. I've been doing it for decades with various versions of both OS X and Windows. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 2015-08-02, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On 2 Aug 2015 17:25:31 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: On 2015-08-02, Ken Springer wrote: You've conveniently forgotten that Werner does not own the XP machine, and the *owner* has decided iTunes is not to be used. Read the original post. Forgot, or recognized as the bull**** it is? This happens to be one of the standard lies the OP tells when he posts here. "I'm using someone else's machine, so installing iTunes is not an option" is part of his modus operandi. He's a lame troll. The best solution to EVERY problem is the simplest one which accomplishes the desired end result. Yes, well in this case, that would be: 1. Install iTunes. 2. Add content to iTunes. 3. Synchronize the iPad to iTunes. 4. Uninstall iTunes. Done deal, and you've spent half an hour or less of your time doing it. And if you were to keep iTunes installed, you could easily set it to sync automatically over WiFi so that adding content to the iPad in the future is a simple matter of importing it into iTunes and allowing the sync to happen automatically over WiFi. As services like dropbox and wetransfer can transfer files easily and without requiring the installation of any additional software, they represent the best solution to the problem presented. To have the best solutions rejected out of hand is the behavior of a troll, I agree. When posting here asking for "help", he almost always rejects anything that uses "the cloud" - whether it be services like DropBox or things like email. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
On 2015-08-02, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2015-08-02, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/2/15 11:04 AM, nospam wrote: In article , Ken Springer wrote: I have my Mac and Windows systems on the same network, hardwired, and it was a PITA to get them to talk to each other. I finally got it done, but not the way I wanted it to. Which is another way of saying, it's not working the way I think it should work. G i don't know what you did, but it's very easy to get a mac and windows system to talk to each other. Which version of OS X are you talking about? Unlike connecting a Windows computer to a Windows network, where the new windows machine show up if sharing is turned on, Macs do not. They certainly do show up on any Macs on the network. It's Windows PCs that can't seem to see them automatically. So Windows PCs see other Windows PCs, and Macs see other Macs. Somehow this must be Apple's fault. Funny. : ) I should add that in recent versions of OS X, Windows PCs that are sharing files actually do appear automatically on Macs on the network. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
In article , Ken Springer
wrote: I don't own an iPad, so I don't know the intricacies of it, but what you can do depends on whether it's an iPad 1, 2, or 3. But all should have Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi built in. My 5.5 year old iMac has both built in. none of that matters. they all work the same way. The question I'm expressing is, all of them will have one of those two connectivity systems, but do all three have both? all ipads have wifi and bluetooth but neither is needed to sync content. syncing is frequently done over usb because it's fast, but it can optionally be done over wifi for convenience. As noted elsewhere, I don't have any iOS devices, then you ought not to comment. but I do know there were a lot of things missing from the iPad 1 that were remedied in the iPad 2. not really. the ipad 2 was a little thinner and lighter than the original ipad and also added a camera. it was also a little faster and had more memory. those are all nice, but nothing that would affect moving content. I don't know what the improvements/advances/changes are for iPad 3. the main difference with the ipad 3 was a retina display. other differences include bluetooth le and for the cellular version, lte support. I don't own any Apple devices, so don't know how the syncing works. who do you think made your 5.5 year old imac? And what does that have to do with the subject? you said you didn't have an apple device and then said you did. anyway, syncing is very easy. just plug in the ipad (or iphone), click sync and whatever selected music, movies, photos, apps, etc. are copied. it can also be configured to sync automatically and even over wifi so you don't even need to fuss with a cable or click a button. but he wants to do it the hard way. For those that want to use their Apple computers and devices in that way, constantly keeping ever unit updated with each other, the systems work really slick. Myself, I prefer as little cloud use as possible. the cloud is not required for any content transfer and keeping multiple ios devices in sync is not required nor is it even applicable since this is just one device syncing to one computer. You've conveniently forgotten that Werner does not own the XP machine, and the *owner* has decided iTunes is not to be used. Read the original post. having seen his posts before, he's full of ****. all he does is whine about how horrible itunes is. he doesn't actually want a solution. he just wants to rant. this very same scenario has come up many times before, with only minor differences in details. Dropbox or similar would be my cloud choice if you have an account. I don't care that much for the way it works between computers either, but I don't use the account for those purposes anyway. for 2 movies that might work (assuming it fits within whatever dropbox plan he has), but over time it's going to end up being more than 2 movies. he'll want more after he watches the first two. I'd be willing to bet his friend will eventually want more files. LOL that's my point. all of the crazy workarounds might suffice for one or two files but it won't be just one or two files. |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
In article , Ken Springer
wrote: I know you don't want to use iTunes, but I'd bet that's going to be your easiest route. It should already be on the iPad. I don't own any Apple devices, so don't know how the syncing works. The so-called iTunes on the iPad isn't even close to the iTunes that is on Windows - but you are wholly correct in that nobody would want to load that thing onto someone else's Windows machine *just* to copy over a couple of files. This does not surprise me. The Apple apps on iPads are not as robust as the same apps installed under OS X. nonsense, and they aren't the same apps anyway. This was one of the downsides of iPads and Minis for me, I wanted them to be identical. Then I learned the same situation applies for Android tablets for apps that are on Windows and Android from what I can tell. they can't be identical since a touch based device must have a different interface than a mouse/keyboard device. Since the Surface tablet runs Windows itself, AIUI, I would think the Surface does not have "cut down" versions if used via the cloud. and look how well surface is selling. .... But, there must be an easy way to transfer the files from Windows directly to the iPad without having to resort to sneakernet or hand grenades. I'm of the opinion neither MS or Apple want to make things easy for the user in the case of connectivity. Strictly a user perspective. apple made it *very* easy. |
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All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad
In article , Jo-Anne
wrote: If the files aren't huge, you could email them to yourself as attachments. he said he doesn't want to use the cloud. I thought he meant that he didn't want to put the files into something like Dropbox. either way, it goes into the cloud. one is a mail server and the other is a dropbox server. |
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