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Old November 27th 18, 11:22 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bill Ward
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Default Security message from Google

My wife does not have a computer at the moment and I have added her
E-Mail address to my Outlook folder.
Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app. Google blocked them, but you should check what
happened. Review your account activity to make sure no one else has
access."
Bill.
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Old November 27th 18, 11:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default Security message from Google

Bill Ward wrote:

Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app.


It's probably *BECAUSE* you've accessed the mailbox with IMAP/POP,
google regard those as insecure
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Old November 27th 18, 03:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Security message from Google

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:22:14 +0000, Bill Ward wrote:

My wife does not have a computer at the moment and I have added her
E-Mail address to my Outlook folder.
Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app. Google blocked them, but you should check what
happened. Review your account activity to make sure no one else has
access."


Could it be that you just signed into her account in order to set it
up?

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Old November 27th 18, 05:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Security message from Google

On 27/11/2018 11:22, Bill Ward wrote:
My wife does not have a computer at the moment


Get her a Linux junk. For eMail, Facebook, Twitter and web browsing
this is all she needs. Go to any Linux newsgroup and ask them if they
are looking for someone to takeaway their clunker. They might even pay
you to take it away!!!




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Old November 27th 18, 05:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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Default Security message from Google

On 11/27/2018 6:22 AM, Bill Ward wrote:
My wife does not have a computer at the moment and I have added her
E-Mail address to my Outlook folder.
Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app. Google blocked them, but you should check what
happened. Review your account activity to make sure no one else has
access."
Bill.

This is a standard response that I get from GMail whenever the account
is accessed from a device presumably not included in its links. It even
does it when I access my GMail account from my laptop!

Google notion of "security" is one of the worst jokes running these days.

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Old November 27th 18, 05:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ralph Fox
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Default Security message from Google

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:37:28 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

Bill Ward wrote:

Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app.


It's probably *BECAUSE* you've accessed the mailbox with IMAP/POP,
google regard those as insecure




I access my Gmail mail box all the time with IMAP, and I do not get
this message. The authentication method is set to OAuth2.

It is not IMAP that Google regards as insecure; it is any authentication
method other than OAuth2.


* FYI: Screen-shot of OAuth2 setting in TB: http://i.imgur.com/dPUg7N3.png


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Old November 27th 18, 06:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ralph Fox
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Default Security message from Google

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:22:14 +0000, Bill Ward wrote:

My wife does not have a computer at the moment and I have added her
E-Mail address to my Outlook folder.
Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app. Google blocked them, but you should check what
happened. Review your account activity to make sure no one else has
access."


Google recognizes that the access was from a different computer.

Google does not know whether the different computer was authorised
by your wife or not. Hence the warning.



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Ralph
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Old November 27th 18, 06:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ralph Fox
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:45:31 -0500, Neil wrote:

This is a standard response that I get from GMail whenever the account
is accessed from a device presumably not included in its links. It even
does it when I access my GMail account from my laptop!


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/60.3.1


If your laptop uses Thunderbird to access Gmail over IMAP, change the
authentication method to OAuth2. Problem solved.



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Ralph
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Old November 27th 18, 06:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default Security message from Google

Ralph Fox wrote:

It is not IMAP that Google regards as insecure; it is any authentication
method other than OAuth2.


Thanks, it's a shame google recommend turning on "insecure access" for
the mailbox, rather than enabling oauth2 in thunderbird

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en
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Old November 27th 18, 06:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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Default Security message from Google

On 11/27/18 5:37 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Ward wrote:

Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account
from a non-Google app.


It's probably *BECAUSE* you've accessed the mailbox with IMAP/POP,
google regard those as insecure


I got several of those messages when I set up my Gmail account (which I
have only because of an Android tablet) for IMAP access.

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Old November 27th 18, 06:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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Default Security message from Google

On 11/27/18 11:56 AM, Ralph Fox wrote:

[snip]

It is not IMAP that Google regards as insecure; it is any authentication
method other than OAuth2.


* FYI: Screen-shot of OAuth2 setting in TB: http://i.imgur.com/dPUg7N3.png


What else do you have to do to get that working?

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York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1974, p. 82]
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Old November 27th 18, 08:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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Default Security message from Google

On 11/27/2018 1:08 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:45:31 -0500, Neil wrote:

This is a standard response that I get from GMail whenever the account
is accessed from a device presumably not included in its links. It even
does it when I access my GMail account from my laptop!


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/60.3.1


If your laptop uses Thunderbird to access Gmail over IMAP, change the
authentication method to OAuth2. Problem solved.



I use Firefox, not Thunderbird to access GMail.

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Neil
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Old November 27th 18, 08:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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Default Security message from Google

On 11/27/2018 1:04 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:22:14 +0000, Bill Ward wrote:

My wife does not have a computer at the moment and I have added her
E-Mail address to my Outlook folder.
Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app. Google blocked them, but you should check what
happened. Review your account activity to make sure no one else has
access."


Google recognizes that the access was from a different computer.

Google does not know whether the different computer was authorised
by your wife or not. Hence the warning.
Just one example of Google's presumptive BS regarding security...there

are others.

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Neil
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Old November 27th 18, 08:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bill Ward
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Default Security message from Google

On 27/11/2018 11:37, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Ward wrote:

Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account
from a non-Google app.


It's probably *BECAUSE* you've accessed the mailbox with IMAP/POP,
google regard those as insecure

Thank you. I had a similar message for myself a few weeks ago and spent
considerable time searching for a reason. Bill.


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Old November 27th 18, 08:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bill Ward
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On 27/11/2018 15:13, rp wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:22:14 +0000, Bill Ward wrote:

My wife does not have a computer at the moment and I have added her
E-Mail address to my Outlook folder.
Why has this message came up for her ?
"Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account from
a non-Google app. Google blocked them, but you should check what
happened. Review your account activity to make sure no one else has
access."


Could it be that you just signed into her account in order to set it
up?

I set it up some time ago and this is the first time the message has
come up.
Bill.
 




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