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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:05:22 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote: Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:18:28 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:52:36 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: Thanks, I thought it was a slang term and wouldn't be in the dictionary. Every (American English) dictionary I have includes slang. But this is British, not American. g Yes, dictionaries include some slang, but *many* slang terms are not in them. I'm too lazy to look in my OED (it's far away and heavy!). You made me look it up in *my* OED. Yes, it's there. I use the OED app. Lot faster than opening a book and paging through to Q. Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 16:47:07 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:18:28 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:52:36 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: Thanks, I thought it was a slang term and wouldn't be in the dictionary. Every (American English) dictionary I have includes slang. But this is British, not American. g That's why I mentioned my dialect :-) Yes, dictionaries include some slang, but *many* slang terms are not in them. I'm too lazy to look in my OED (it's far away and heavy!). You made me look it up in *my* OED. Yes, it's there. Thanks. In all honesty, the main reason I didn't use the OED is that I wasn't sure which words would be good to look up, so I was chicken - that's slang for cowardly :-) Like ...winston, I do have an OED program, but it's old and would require me to start my XP VM - but even then it works oddly :-( -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:19:02 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: The other day I saw in a magazine a review of a 5 TB drive for around $250 US, which made me reminisce about my first hard drive, 10 MB for $800. Yours must have been earlier than mine. since it was 8 times as expensive. My first was 20MB (a Seagate ST225) for $200, around 1984. |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:05:22 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:18:28 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:52:36 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: Thanks, I thought it was a slang term and wouldn't be in the dictionary. Every (American English) dictionary I have includes slang. But this is British, not American. g Yes, dictionaries include some slang, but *many* slang terms are not in them. I'm too lazy to look in my OED (it's far away and heavy!). You made me look it up in *my* OED. Yes, it's there. I use the OED app. Lot faster than opening a book and paging through to Q. Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? That is the price for the online version that includes monthly updates and other subscriber benefits. Apps are much cheaper. While nothing app related compares to the online or print (which is equivalent to the 20 volume OED, 600,000 word, 21,000+ pages) the best OED app is for the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and called 'Shorter Oxford English Dictionary' based on the same 20 volume 600K words, less unnecessary content and obscure quotations - currently $30. The Windows 8 app version (40% less words) is called the 'Concise Oxford English Dictionary' and costs $10. All app costs are one time cost, not recurring. Not sure about the Win8 version but a updates have been available for the iOS version (adding new words and content) for a limited period..the last was in 2013 ($2) and prior to the current app version release. There is even a free version app for iOS called the OED Search (think cloud version) that doesn't store local content but searches the online but is limited to about 240K words. Like many, I had the paper version for years (picked up cheaply at an Estate sale)...the local library was more than happy to accept it as a donation and help me de-clutter my home. Iirc, the print edition will soon be entirely discontinued. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
". . .winston" wrote:
Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? Check with your public library! My public library offers free access to the online OED if you have a library card. And library cards are free. Hard to beat that tale. -- Tim Slattery tim at risingdove dot com |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:19:02 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: The other day I saw in a magazine a review of a 5 TB drive for around $250 US, which made me reminisce about my first hard drive, 10 MB for $800. Newegg currently has a 5TB external drive on sale for $159. I thought I was waiting for the 6TB drives to either come down in price or at least go on a major sale, but now that 8TB and 10TB drives have been announced, I'm back in wait and see mode. Those last two get their capacity increases through the use of Helium rather than plain old air. Beyond that, there's a newer technology (SMR, I think?) that, on paper at least, promises to deliver up to 10x the capacity of anything that came before it. I'm looking forward to getting 1000TB in a 3.5" form factor. That's assuming the technology can make it off the drawing board, of course. -- Char Jackson |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:33:43 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:19:02 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: The other day I saw in a magazine a review of a 5 TB drive for around $250 US, which made me reminisce about my first hard drive, 10 MB for $800. Newegg currently has a 5TB external drive on sale for $159. I thought I was waiting for the 6TB drives to either come down in price or at least go on a major sale, but now that 8TB and 10TB drives have been announced, I'm back in wait and see mode. Those last two get their capacity increases through the use of Helium rather than plain old air. Beyond that, there's a newer technology (SMR, I think?) that, on paper at least, promises to deliver up to 10x the capacity of anything that came before it. I'm looking forward to getting 1000TB in a 3.5" form factor. That's assuming the technology can make it off the drawing board, of course. That'll make my mind spin faster than a hard drive platter... I'm a bit of a hoarder, but I don't know whether I could make full use of that drive :-) -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:16:45 -0400, . . .winston wrote:
Ken Blake wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:05:22 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Ken Blake wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:18:28 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 12:52:36 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: Thanks, I thought it was a slang term and wouldn't be in the dictionary. Every (American English) dictionary I have includes slang. But this is British, not American. g Yes, dictionaries include some slang, but *many* slang terms are not in them. I'm too lazy to look in my OED (it's far away and heavy!). You made me look it up in *my* OED. Yes, it's there. I use the OED app. Lot faster than opening a book and paging through to Q. Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? That is the price for the online version that includes monthly updates and other subscriber benefits. Apps are much cheaper. While nothing app related compares to the online or print (which is equivalent to the 20 volume OED, 600,000 word, 21,000+ pages) the best OED app is for the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and called 'Shorter Oxford English Dictionary' based on the same 20 volume 600K words, less unnecessary content and obscure quotations - currently $30. The Windows 8 app version (40% less words) is called the 'Concise Oxford English Dictionary' and costs $10. All app costs are one time cost, not recurring. Not sure about the Win8 version but a updates have been available for the iOS version (adding new words and content) for a limited period..the last was in 2013 ($2) and prior to the current app version release. There is even a free version app for iOS called the OED Search (think cloud version) that doesn't store local content but searches the online but is limited to about 240K words. Like many, I had the paper version for years (picked up cheaply at an Estate sale)...the local library was more than happy to accept it as a donation and help me de-clutter my home. Iirc, the print edition will soon be entirely discontinued. Several Oxford dictionary apps are show up at the Android store (Google Play) as well. I don't know whether they are equivalent to the iOS ones you cited, but I would expect so. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:16:45 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote: Ken Blake wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:05:22 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: I use the OED app. Lot faster than opening a book and paging through to Q. Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? That is the price for the online version that includes monthly updates and other subscriber benefits. Apps are much cheaper. While nothing app related compares to the online or print (which is equivalent to the 20 volume OED, 600,000 word, 21,000+ pages) the best OED app is for the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and called 'Shorter Oxford English Dictionary' based on the same 20 volume 600K words, less unnecessary content and obscure quotations - currently $30. Ah, didn't know that. Thanks. The Windows 8 app version (40% less words) is called the 'Concise Oxford English Dictionary' and costs $10. But the COD is a different dictionary. It's based on the OED, but it's not the same. Like many, I had the paper version for years (picked up cheaply at an Estate sale)...the local library was more than happy to accept it as a donation and help me de-clutter my home. My print version is the two volume version. It has all the same content as the 20-volume version, but with greatly reduced size, so it needs to be read with a magnifying glass. |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:11:02 -0400, Tim Slattery
wrote: ". . .winston" wrote: Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? Check with your public library! My public library offers free access to the online OED if you have a library card. And library cards are free. Hard to beat that tale. Thanks very much! I'll be at our library tomorrow, and I'll ask them if they do that. |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:33:43 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: Beyond that, there's a newer technology (SMR, I think?) that, on paper at least, promises to deliver up to 10x the capacity of anything that came before it. I'm looking forward to getting 1000TB in a 3.5" form factor. That's assuming the technology can make it off the drawing board, of course. A petabyte? Wow! That's about 250 times as much disk space as I have now. It's hard for me to believe that I could ever use that much, but I know that in a few years my tune will change. A few years ago, I wouldn't have believed that I could use as much as I'm using now. |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
Tim Slattery wrote:
". . .winston" wrote: Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? Check with your public library! My public library offers free access to the online OED if you have a library card. And library cards are free. Hard to beat that tale. Yes, the libraries in this area all provide free access to the online full version OED. ....but I doubt, in the case of this thread subtopic which generated discussion about the OED, I doubt anyone wants to run to the library to look up 'quids' vbg -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:22:11 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote: Tim Slattery wrote: Check with your public library! My public library offers free access to the online OED if you have a library card. And library cards are free. Hard to beat that tale. Yes, the libraries in this area all provide free access to the online full version OED. ...but I doubt, in the case of this thread subtopic which generated discussion about the OED, I doubt anyone wants to run to the library to look up 'quids' vbg I had assumed that what Tim meant was that access to the OED was provided by his library at his home, via the library's web site. Tim, am I right? If I'm wrong, I'm not interested in it. |
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"CONVERT is not available for EXFAT drives."
Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:16:45 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: Ken Blake wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 02:05:22 -0400, ". . .winston" wrote: I use the OED app. Lot faster than opening a book and paging through to Q. Do you pay the $295 a year subscription cost? That is the price for the online version that includes monthly updates and other subscriber benefits. Apps are much cheaper. While nothing app related compares to the online or print (which is equivalent to the 20 volume OED, 600,000 word, 21,000+ pages) the best OED app is for the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and called 'Shorter Oxford English Dictionary' based on the same 20 volume 600K words, less unnecessary content and obscure quotations - currently $30. Ah, didn't know that. Thanks. The Windows 8 app version (40% less words) is called the 'Concise Oxford English Dictionary' and costs $10. But the COD is a different dictionary. It's based on the OED, but it's not the same. Like many, I had the paper version for years (picked up cheaply at an Estate sale)...the local library was more than happy to accept it as a donation and help me de-clutter my home. My print version is the two volume version. It has all the same content as the 20-volume version, but with greatly reduced size, so it needs to be read with a magnifying glass. Iirc, the 'Concise' is not as inclusive...for apps its in the 200+K entry range vs. the 600+K range of the 'Shorter' version. The 20 volume edition (word wise) has about 172K full word entries, about 47K obsolete, and 9K subentries. - thus for most a one time payment of $10 or $30 for an app of either version would appear to be more than sufficient. Back in high school myself and two other students were awarded National Science Foundation scholarships to study for the summer after our junior year in high school at universities (MIT, Rensselaer, and Carnegie-Mellon) with that award came the full Encyclopedia Brittanica. - while it was nice to have received the latter award that Funk and Wagnalls Encyclopedia my limited income parents provided more than met all my needs. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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