POP vs IMAP

For GMail Account and Hotmail Account

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

Beside the username and password what is the value of all the other
settings for POP and IMAP?

Someone post a nice succinct table ... please
I always have trouble figuring out how to do this.
Bad enough I have to remember the password.

GMail
IMAP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc, etc
POP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc,

Hotmail
IMAP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc
POP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc

Thank you.

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On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
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What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow you to
manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.) locally. Most
IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally for off-line reading
and archiving.

Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow you to
manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.) locally. Most
IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally for off-line reading
and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 18:37:59 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use both POP on my smartphone and my computer, but my smartphone is
set up to leave messages on server unless I delete them. If needed, I
can use Portable Thunderbird.

--
s|b

On 25 Apr 2015, Mike Barnes wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Nil wrote:

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow
you to manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.)
locally. Most IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally
for off-line reading and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g.
PC and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and
deleting that you carry out on one device are visible on the
other(s). Using POP with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use a combination of both. I use IMAP to check email on my main
account from my several devices. Then, every day or two, I download it
all to my main computer using POP3, deleting it from the server at that
time.

I did all IMAP for a while, but I found that you're at the mercy of the
server for every little operation, every fetch and delete, and some
mail servers can be quite slow.

Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, Mike Barnes wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Nil wrote:

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow
you to manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.)
locally. Most IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally
for off-line reading and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g.
PC and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and
deleting that you carry out on one device are visible on the
other(s). Using POP with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use a combination of both. I use IMAP to check email on my main
account from my several devices. Then, every day or two, I download it
all to my main computer using POP3, deleting it from the server at that
time.

AAMOI do you also have an IMAP connection on your main computer, for
normal email reading etc? Otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell which
messages you'd already read on your other devices.

I did all IMAP for a while, but I found that you're at the mercy of the
server for every little operation, every fetch and delete, and some
mail servers can be quite slow.

I do all IMAP and haven't suffered from slowness. I guess it depends on
the server and on the software you use. I get the impression that
Thunderbird syncs between the server and local storage in the
background, so I don't have to wait, BICBW.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

On 25 Apr 2015, Mike Barnes wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

AAMOI do you also have an IMAP connection on your main computer,
for normal email reading etc? Otherwise you wouldn't be able to
tell which messages you'd already read on your other devices.

I just remember which ones I've read. Not a problem.

I do all IMAP and haven't suffered from slowness. I guess it
depends on the server and on the software you use. I get the
impression that Thunderbird syncs between the server and local
storage in the background, so I don't have to wait, BICBW.

One of the secondary mail accounts I use is Yahoo. Their IMAP
connection get VERY slow during peak hours. They're much quicker in the
middle of the night. Gmail has also seems lately to have been going
through slow periods not necessarily tied to time of day. Then, after a
few hours or days it speeds up again. My main email account at my ISP
is fairly peppy, maybe because they don't advertise that service and I
don't think it's widely used.

I would think that everyone would find IMAP to be at least a little
slower than POP3. As I understand it, you make an IMAP connection, and
it stays open for a short while, after which you have to be validated
again, which would necessarily take some time. So if you're reading and
deleting a lot of mail you would probably exceed that timeout period
often and have to be validated again pretty often. POP3 works in
batches and retrieving even many emails should happen during one
session.

Nil wrote:
I would think that everyone would find IMAP to be at least a little
slower than POP3. As I understand it, you make an IMAP connection, and
it stays open for a short while, after which you have to be validated
again, which would necessarily take some time. So if you're reading and
deleting a lot of mail you would probably exceed that timeout period
often and have to be validated again pretty often. POP3 works in
batches and retrieving even many emails should happen during one
session.

I don't find it slower, and I suspect that Thunderbird doesn't make me
wait. For instance when I connect, Thunderbird seems to download all my
mail immediately, unlike my iPhone which seems to download just the
headers and then waits for me to open each message before downloading
the message body concerned (ditto attachments). The difference is
obvious, but they're both IMAP.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

s|b wrote on 4/25/2015 2:09 PM:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 18:37:59 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use both POP on my smartphone and my computer, but my smartphone is
set up to leave messages on server unless I delete them. If needed, I
can use Portable Thunderbird.

+1
I have about 5 vm's and a few PC's, phones, tablet. All pop leaving the mail on server and then my main laptop does the
download and delete. Laptop is the main record keeper.

https://support.google.com/mail/trou...665018,1665144

Not that simple.

And does not explain.

If I have a Hotmail or Live account how do I set that up?
Can it do IMAP?
If so, what do I use for Incoming and Outgoing Server, Ports, etc?

If not, what do I use for Incoming and Outgoing Server, Ports, etc?

I need to keep my Hotmail account and not give it up to a GMail
account.

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On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
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https://support.google.com/mail/trou...665018,1665144

Not that simple.

And does not explain.

It explains the question you asked.

If I have a Hotmail or Live account how do I set that up?
Can it do IMAP?
If so, what do I use for Incoming and Outgoing Server, Ports, etc?

If not, what do I use for Incoming and Outgoing Server, Ports,
etc?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hotmail+imap

OldGuy wrote:
https://support.google.com/mail/trou...665018,1665144


Not that simple.

And does not explain.

If I have a Hotmail or Live account how do I set that up?
Can it do IMAP?
If so, what do I use for Incoming and Outgoing Server, Ports, etc?

If not, what do I use for Incoming and Outgoing Server, Ports, etc?

I need to keep my Hotmail account and not give it up to a GMail account.

Outlook.com accounts (fka Hotmail, fka Msn Hotmail, fka Msn, fka Live)
support four different protocols for send/retreive
-POP3
-IMAP
-EAS (Exchange Active Sync)
-DeltaSync (a MSFT http protocol similar to IMAP and EAS)

POP3 only downloads messages from the account's Inbox on the server
hosting the account
All three other protocols replicate all of the account's folders and all
messages present on the server hosting the account.



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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer.

Not true...it does not move all mail, it only moves mail from the
account's Inbox on the server to the locally setup account Inbox.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

In message , . . .winston
writes:
Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer.

Not true...it does not move all mail, it only moves mail from the
account's Inbox on the server to the locally setup account Inbox.

I'm obviously not grasping something here. Your use of the word "only"
implies that there's some mail other than that in "the account's Inbox
on the server", that would still match ...winston's description of "your
email".
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On 4/25/2015 1:37 PM, Mike Barnes wrote:
Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow you to
manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.) locally. Most
IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally for off-line reading
and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

And, something no one specifically mentioned, you can have folders of
various saved emails stored on gmail's server. I have about 20 such
folders like Medical, Computer Stuff, etc. in which I squirrel away many
emails I want to keep. I typically use Thunderbird and the folders are
always at the left side of the window. And with IMAP, those folders are
available from any of my machines. Even if I am at a friend's house and
need some info, I can get to the folders via web based gmail.