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Still 'Installing Update 186 of 197'
A clean install and several days of reboots and updates before the
computer becomes useable. Yesterday just when I thought I was getting to the end of it Windows Update announced that it wanted to update itself and then a vast number of new updates appeared marked as Important. Last night I got the usual 'Do not Power Off' message and left it running but thismorning it still hasn't completed it's routine. Time to press and hold the power button I think? Fingers crossed. Tim W |
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Still 'Installing Update 186 of 197'
On 04/28/2015 04:55 AM, Tim w wrote:
A clean install and several days of reboots and updates before the computer becomes useable. Yesterday just when I thought I was getting to the end of it Windows Update announced that it wanted to update itself and then a vast number of new updates appeared marked as Important. Last night I got the usual 'Do not Power Off' message and left it running but thismorning it still hasn't completed it's routine. Time to press and hold the power button I think? Fingers crossed. Tim W If it still has not installed after sitting over night, you might as well turn it off. That's happened to me before and no harm was done, just had to install a few more updates. |
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Still 'Installing Update 186 of 197'
Tim w wrote:
A clean install and several days of reboots and updates before the computer becomes useable. Yesterday just when I thought I was getting to the end of it Windows Update announced that it wanted to update itself and then a vast number of new updates appeared marked as Important. Last night I got the usual 'Do not Power Off' message and left it running but thismorning it still hasn't completed it's routine. Time to press and hold the power button I think? Fingers crossed. Tim W You should be careful of Microsoft subsystems that actively interfere/slow the update process. For example, telling SearchIndexer to Pause, is not enough. Go into the Administrator Services panel and disable the service, so it stops starting, so it stops resuming what it is doing. Your AV should also be disabled (somehow), while the updates run. This reduces the amount of additional file I/O, as the AV scans everything the Updater is doing. Some AV programs, allow disablement for 15 minute periods of time. You may need to keep clicking that stupid feature. If you don't have an AV installed at this point - you're lucky. ******* In terms of Windows updates, they should be done in groups. Don't let Windows pick the order. At the very least, untick all the selection buttons, then go through the list and select all the .NET related updates. The reason for doing this, is so multiple runs of NGEN will not occur. NGEN is an assembly compiler, that pre-compiles ..NET assemblies (Windows uses those) for "fast start". The process is really stupid, and could also be done at runtime, when an executable is run. So the thing that NGEN is doing, can also be done in real time, and only when a binary is executed. Once all the .NET updates are out of the way, and the disk has stopped grinding, now you can tick whatever you consider to be the next set. Typical AV programs, re-enable themselves after a reboot, so expect to have to disable the AV more than once, if doing updates in sets. ******* Instead of powering off, maybe you still have control of the machine ? In which case, you can remove anything which is slowing down the update process. As another example, if you use the Disk Cleanup function, one of the optional tick boxes in there has to do with cleaning up packages after they've been updated. This causes a scanning process to run. It causes Disk Cleanup to take an hour of run time. If you simply visit Windows Update, that action causes Windows Update to kill the scan process started by Disk Cleanup, and the Disk Cleanup will finish about 2 minutes later. Windows is filled with idiotic things, that interfere with other things. All in the name of "maintenance". On my fancy new computer, I can have the poor thing dropped to its knees at startup. Why ? A look in Task Manager, shows zero CPU usage (or close to it). The machine is not pegged. But Windows Defender could be doing continuous I/O on the hard drive, and the machine is basically useless until it stops. There is a trend here. The machine is so fixated on maintenance, no amount of hardware prowess leaves any responsiveness for what the user wants to do. Your Windows Update example is just the tip of the iceberg. Paul |
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Still 'Installing Update 186 of 197'
Tim w wrote:
A clean install and several days of reboots and updates before the computer becomes useable. Yesterday just when I thought I was getting to the end of it Windows Update announced that it wanted to update itself and then a vast number of new updates appeared marked as Important. Last night I got the usual 'Do not Power Off' message and left it running but thismorning it still hasn't completed it's routine. Time to press and hold the power button I think? Fingers crossed. Tim W Past experience taught me, when applying updates, it is best to do them in small groups; 3 or 4 at a time. That way, if any problems are encountered, you can more easily find the culprit (the one causing the system to hang or become unstable). Doing a power button shut down usually does not cause problems, notice the deliberate use of "Usually". -- Sir_George |
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