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  #16  
Old December 9th 17, 06:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows for Submarines

On 12/08/2017 09:08 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 19:47:29 -0800, T wrote:

On 12/08/2017 07:42 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 8/12/2017 11:28 PM, Doomsdrzej wrote:

LibreOffice is useful in areas like academics where its free nature
encourages schools to use it and therefore produce files which are
ODT, ODP and the rest by default. However, in commercial areas, using
LibreOffice is a bad idea since nobody else is bothering to use it.
Nobody minds having to buy Microsoft Office if they own a business so
their files are more likely to be DOCX or XLSX and therefore load
incorrectly in the free software product.

It really depends on the target formatting needs. If you only use basic
stuffs, you possibly would not touch the advanced features of Micro$oft
Office, definitely not the ability to run macros which can be used to
build malwares.


I have never used M$O (M$ Office). Libre Office (LO) works perfectly
for me, including the odd DOCX and XLSX I get sent. LO's pdf
export is wonderful. LO can't print an envelope for its life.


I never use the extended features of Microsoft Office either so
LibreOffice is truly more than enough for me as well. However, I hate
using it in Windows. Using it in Linux, however, is stellar. It feels
a lot lighter.


I use a lot of Windows programs with Wine Staging. They
do seem snappier.
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  #17  
Old December 9th 17, 09:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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T wrote:
On 12/08/2017 09:44 AM, Anonymous wrote:
philo wrote:
On 12/08/2017 12:31 AM, Cows are nice wrote:
“Windows for Submarines” is said to be powering these submarines because
“it was cheaper than the alternatives”

http://news.softpedia.com/news/uk-s-...ng-windows-xp-
based-os-called-windows-for-submarines-499203.shtml

https://tinyurl.com/zknwzw6


"Clippy says It looks like you are trying to shoot a torpedo do you need
help?"

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sub...Navy,6718.html

https://tinyurl.com/6v2t5n




Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they
keep them closed.


I was a tin can sailor myself. No windows but plenty of hatches and dog
wrenches.


My hat is off to you. I would have gone crazy with claustrophobia.
I heard the food was pretty good though.


My job was the baker , so I had a lot of friends aboard ship.

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Old December 9th 17, 02:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.lang.ada
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On 8/12/2017 11:49 PM, Paul wrote:
There are some universities, where the students all
have Apple Macbooks. There's really no way to predict
what product they'll be using. On some others, they
have Chromebooks, and could be using web tools for
programming.

And you wouldn't have a very good CS degree, if you
weren't taught to adapt to whatever platform was
needed for the job.


Some brains are larger and better in memorizing more than a few
programming languages. Some don't. It really is NOT a matter of what CS
degree you got when it comes to programming in multiple languages.

Note that as you grow older, your brain might not be able to grow
further and memorize more new stuffs.

Weapons systems are programmed in ADA, a language
nobody uses. This means, when you leave your university,
you're basically useless for this work :-) The language
is similar to Pascal in some ways (strict typing).


There is a Usenet newsgroup for data: comp.lang.ada

For the record, I did write a little program in Ada in Hong Kong. Still
got its listing on paper. But Hong Kong doesn't do weapon programming
for other countries including USA.

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Old December 9th 17, 05:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Some brains are larger and better in memorizing more than a few
programming languages. Some don't. It really is NOT a matter of what CS
degree you got when it comes to programming in multiple languages.


But the university doesn't want small, inflexible brains.

It only gives a good grade to the flexible, big-brained students.

Industry doesn't want people who have spent four years writing WATFOR programs.

When a new graduate enters the workplace, they're
supposed to be productive the very first day, in whatever
language they use.

Paul
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Old December 9th 17, 05:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/12/2017 12:24 AM, Paul wrote:

But the university doesn't want small, inflexible brains.


All brains have a limited capacity! And a lot of factors affect how a
brain develops: genes, nutrition, circulation, digestion, external
simulation, injuries, ....

It only gives a good grade to the flexible, big-brained students.
Industry doesn't want people who have spent four years writing WATFOR
programs.


Yes, and this information technology industry has expired and fired a
lot of old programmers and maybe some programming languages. Some old
programmers switched field into management positions though, with
success. However, most managers and directors don't write programs, nor
check the quality of others' programs.

Anyone still writing Visual Foxpro and other dBase dialects? Any new
projects related to them?

When a new graduate enters the workplace, they're
supposed to be productive the very first day, in whatever
language they use.


COBOL and Java are still a mainstream programming languages in the
finance and banking sectors (now called FinTech). And then there are
Visual Basic and C#! C++ and C are still widely used in engineering sectors.

Students are recommended to take a look at job recruitment
advertisements and learn what programming languages have job vacancies.
Good teachers should also guide students on how to look for jobs.

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Old December 9th 17, 11:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Wolf K wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Some brains are larger and better in memorizing more than a few
programming languages. Some don't. It really is NOT a matter of what
CS degree you got when it comes to programming in multiple languages.


Actually, brain size does not correlate with intelligence or any other
cognitive behaviour.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...in-size-matter

"Finally, raw brain volume (size) may not accurately reflect
the number of brain neurons (which just may be a critical
component of intelligence), or the size of any other
functional unit of the brain."

So it depends on whether your head is filled with mostly
pudding, or mostly raisins. Measuring the whole pudding,
doesn't say how many raisins you got. A measure of raisin
density is needed.

Paul
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Old December 10th 17, 01:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-12-09 17:54, Paul wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Some brains are larger and better in memorizing more than a few
programming languages. Some don't. It really is NOT a matter of
what CS degree you got when it comes to programming in multiple
languages.

Actually, brain size does not correlate with intelligence or any
other cognitive behaviour.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...in-size-matter


"Finally, raw brain volume (size) may not accurately reflect
the number of brain neurons (which just may be a critical
component of intelligence), or the size of any other
functional unit of the brain."

So it depends on whether your head is filled with mostly
pudding, or mostly raisins. Measuring the whole pudding,
doesn't say how many raisins you got. A measure of raisin
density is needed.

Paul


It exists, but you can't perform until after death. :-(


The proof is in the pudding.

Paul
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Old December 10th 17, 02:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:35:34 -0500, Paul wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-12-09 17:54, Paul wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Some brains are larger and better in memorizing more than a few
programming languages. Some don't. It really is NOT a matter of
what CS degree you got when it comes to programming in multiple
languages.

Actually, brain size does not correlate with intelligence or any
other cognitive behaviour.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...in-size-matter


"Finally, raw brain volume (size) may not accurately reflect
the number of brain neurons (which just may be a critical
component of intelligence), or the size of any other
functional unit of the brain."

So it depends on whether your head is filled with mostly
pudding, or mostly raisins. Measuring the whole pudding,
doesn't say how many raisins you got. A measure of raisin
density is needed.

Paul


It exists, but you can't perform until after death. :-(


The proof is in the pudding.


How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5diMImYIIA


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Old December 10th 17, 01:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/12/2017 9:39 AM, Char Jackson wrote:

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?


You know how governments worldwide use dirty policies and tricks to
prevent poor people from having a good brain, do you?

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Old December 10th 17, 01:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:21:42 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Some brains are larger and better in memorizing more than a few
programming languages. Some don't. It really is NOT a matter of
what CS degree you got when it comes to programming in multiple
languages.


Actually, brain size does not correlate with intelligence or any
other cognitive behaviour.


Try playing chess with your cat and you'll see that small brains
don't have much intelligence.
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Old December 10th 17, 01:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/12/2017 8:27 PM, mechanic wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:21:42 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

Actually, brain size does not correlate with intelligence or any
other cognitive behaviour.


Try playing chess with your cat and you'll see that small brains
don't have much intelligence.


He/She meant a brain can be big but without neurons, just fat issue.
It's formation of neurons that define whether a brain is good.

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Old December 10th 17, 07:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 12:24:04 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2017-12-10 07:27, mechanic wrote:
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:21:42 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Some brains are larger and better in memorizing more than a
few programming languages. Some don't. It really is NOT a
matter of what CS degree you got when it comes to programming
in multiple languages.

Actually, brain size does not correlate with intelligence or
any other cognitive behaviour.


Try playing chess with your cat and you'll see that small brains
don't have much intelligence.

Do I really have to spell it out?

Ok, just for you:

"Brain size differences between individuals of the same species
do not correlate with cognitive differences."


As Man-wai Chang pointed out, it comes down to neurons. More neurons
(takes more space, so bigger brain) - more connections - more
intelligence. That's the theory no?
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Old December 11th 17, 05:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2017-12-08, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Most big companies and students are using Micro$oft Office. It's a
de-facto standard, impossible to escape from.


I've never used it.

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Old December 11th 17, 07:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 12/10/2017 08:41 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2017-12-08, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Most big companies and students are using Micro$oft Office. It's a
de-facto standard, impossible to escape from.


I've never used it.


They let me use Lotus SmartSuite for a M$ Office course in college.

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Old December 11th 17, 05:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 12/09/2017 02:08 AM, Anonymous wrote:
X


Did not read the link, but if a submarine has windows, I suggest they
keep them closed.


I was a tin can sailor myself. No windows but plenty of hatches and dog
wrenches.


My hat is off to you. I would have gone crazy with claustrophobia.
I heard the food was pretty good though.


My job was the baker , so I had a lot of friends aboard ship.




One of my favorite stories was my dad telling me how he liked to be a
watch in the Navy. (Not sure if I have the correct term, I was in the
Army and we called it guard duty.)

Anyway he'd get a loaf of bread at 4 am own whenever it came out of the
oven and would take a full stick of butter.
Break the bread and the stick of butter in half and shove the butter in
each half loaf.

He said their was nothing better.


Though I don't bake bread as often as I used to, the first loaf goes
very fast. If friends are here it's all gone in two minutes.
 




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