Preventing automatic updates

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way since
that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work but
doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part of
Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware drivers
are "updated" incorrectly.

John Doe wrote:
I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way since
that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work but
doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part of
Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware drivers
are "updated" incorrectly.

Windows Update has been supplemented by "Update Orchestrator".

You may see a black Command Prompt window flash as a delayed
start after Win10 boots. And the executable launched at that
time, has something to do with Update Orchestrator.

I expect UO was invented for Enterprise customers, and it
was placed on Home and Pro for "testing". So consider you're
a guinea pig for an Enterprise feature set (WSUS testing).

Previously, you could set a Windows Update policy. Some registry
key would accept a number 0..4 , which would set the policy.
Apparently that no longer does anything.

And I've not seen any "intelligence" on how to tame
the current design. So hacking it to bits is your
option. Just smash it until it no longer works.
Every time a DVD image shows up for a Windows 10 Upgrade,
apply it to your smashed system, then re-smash it later.
That'll be our "new GPO".

Update Orchestrator makes heavy usage of Task Scheduler,
and you may see a whole folder of things scheduled in
the Task Scheduler. Even if you cleaned that out, they
may have a way of re-populating it again. I would expect
it to have tentacles all over the place.

http://servicedefaults.com/10/usosvc/

Paul

Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part
of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware
drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

Windows Update has been supplemented by "Update Orchestrator".

You may see a black Command Prompt window flash as a delayed start
after Win10 boots. And the executable launched at that time, has
something to do with Update Orchestrator.

I expect UO was invented for Enterprise customers, and it was placed
on Home and Pro for "testing". So consider you're a guinea pig for an
Enterprise feature set (WSUS testing).

Previously, you could set a Windows Update policy. Some registry key
would accept a number 0..4 , which would set the policy. Apparently
that no longer does anything.

And I've not seen any "intelligence" on how to tame the current
design. So hacking it to bits is your option. Just smash it until it
no longer works.

As I found that you can disable it in Services Windows Update.
Problem is, since the Policy Editor setting 0..4 doesn't work, you still
have no control after re-enabling it.

Microsoft being in a bit of a shambles might be a good thing. It is
certainly exciting/interesting for an installation enthusiast like me. I
spent countless hours installing and reinstalling early Windows
versions, sometimes for no reason at all. It hasn't been a mess like
this in a long time. It's an ideal use for Macrium Reflect.

Being a guinea pig for enterprise installations is no surprise.
Obviously Microsoft is making little money from the rest of us.




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Every time a DVD image shows up for a Windows 10 Upgrade, apply it to
your smashed system, then re-smash it later. That'll be our "new GPO".

Update Orchestrator makes heavy usage of Task Scheduler, and you may
see a whole folder of things scheduled in the Task Scheduler. Even if
you cleaned that out, they may have a way of re-populating it again. I
would expect it to have tentacles all over the place.

http://servicedefaults.com/10/usosvc/

Paul

On 01/01/2016 00:08, John Doe wrote:
I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way since
that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work but
doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part of
Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware drivers
are "updated" incorrectly.

Did you try ticking the "Defer Upgrades" check box in PC Settings -
WindowsUpdate - Advanced Options?

http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what...ndows-10-mean/

edevils wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part
of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware
drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

Did you try ticking the "Defer Upgrades" check box in PC Settings -
WindowsUpdate - Advanced Options?

http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what...ndows-10-mean/

In another article, they say you can use Group Policy Editor but that's
not true. You might be able to defer updates, but it doesn't solve the
main problem, that is the need to avoid certain "updates" that break
things. There are some small bugs and oddities, but the forced update
thing is definitely the weirdest, IMO. I guess it's just another way
Microsoft is snubbing desktop users, or as Paul says they are using us
as guinea pigs (beta testers) for their cash cow corporate clients.

On 01/01/2016 10:38, John Doe wrote:
edevils wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part
of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware
drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

Did you try ticking the "Defer Upgrades" check box in PC Settings -
WindowsUpdate - Advanced Options?

http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what...ndows-10-mean/

In another article, they say you can use Group Policy Editor but that's
not true. You might be able to defer updates, but it doesn't solve the
main problem, that is the need to avoid certain "updates" that break
things. There are some small bugs and oddities, but the forced update
thing is definitely the weirdest, IMO. I guess it's just another way
Microsoft is snubbing desktop users, or as Paul says they are using us
as guinea pigs (beta testers) for their cash cow corporate clients.

Well, they are using Windows 10 *Home* users as guinea pigs (and that's
what Telemetry is about, not "spying").

Windows *Pro* users, on the contrary, can defer non-security updates up
to several months, which means you should be able to avoid the newest,
barely tested updates that might break things. Hopefully bugs and
oddities are going to be fixed before you get the deferred updates.

edevils wrote:

John Doe wrote:
edevils wrote:
John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to
prevent Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are
delivered has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization
part of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes
hardware drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

Did you try ticking the "Defer Upgrades" check box in PC Settings -
WindowsUpdate - Advanced Options?

http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what...r-upgrades%E2%
80%9D-in-windows-10-mean/

In another article, they say you can use Group Policy Editor but
that's not true. You might be able to defer updates, but it doesn't
solve the main problem, that is the need to avoid certain "updates"
that break things. There are some small bugs and oddities, but the
forced update thing is definitely the weirdest, IMO. I guess it's
just another way Microsoft is snubbing desktop users, or as Paul says
they are using us as guinea pigs (beta testers) for their cash cow
corporate clients.

Well, they are using Windows 10 *Home* users as guinea pigs (and
that's what Telemetry is about, not "spying").

Didn't say anything about spying.

It isn't just home users, it's Pro users too. None of us can stop
particular "updates" from being installed. The only thing we can do is
stop all or none. And that's not much of a choice.

Possible might be to roll updates back (if possible), but that's an ugly
solution.

Windows *Pro* users, on the contrary, can defer non-security updates
up to several months, which means you should be able to avoid the
newest, barely tested updates that might break things. Hopefully bugs
and oddities are going to be fixed before you get the deferred
updates.

Some so-called driver updates that I would avoid have been offered
forever.

There's no way for any objective user to get around calling the Windows
update situation anything but "a mess".

On 01/01/2016 20:54, John Doe wrote:
edevils wrote:

John Doe wrote:
edevils wrote:
John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to
prevent Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are
delivered has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization
part of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes
hardware drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

Did you try ticking the "Defer Upgrades" check box in PC Settings -
WindowsUpdate - Advanced Options?

http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what...r-upgrades%E2%
80%9D-in-windows-10-mean/

In another article, they say you can use Group Policy Editor but
that's not true. You might be able to defer updates, but it doesn't
solve the main problem, that is the need to avoid certain "updates"
that break things. There are some small bugs and oddities, but the
forced update thing is definitely the weirdest, IMO. I guess it's
just another way Microsoft is snubbing desktop users, or as Paul says
they are using us as guinea pigs (beta testers) for their cash cow
corporate clients.

Well, they are using Windows 10 *Home* users as guinea pigs (and
that's what Telemetry is about, not "spying").

Didn't say anything about spying.

It isn't just home users, it's Pro users too. None of us can stop
particular "updates" from being installed. The only thing we can do is
stop all or none. And that's not much of a choice.

Possible might be to roll updates back (if possible), but that's an ugly
solution.

Windows *Pro* users, on the contrary, can defer non-security updates
up to several months, which means you should be able to avoid the
newest, barely tested updates that might break things. Hopefully bugs
and oddities are going to be fixed before you get the deferred
updates.

Some so-called driver updates that I would avoid have been offered
forever.


Have you tried these tips? If they don't work, I see it as a bug.
http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-...on-windows-10/



There's no way for any objective user to get around calling the Windows
update situation anything but "a mess".

John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way since
that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work but
doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part
of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware
drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

The following link should provide some help;

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...in-windows-10/

--
Sir_George

"Sir_George" wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part
of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware
drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

The following link should provide some help;

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...ng-updates-in-
windows-10/

The problem isn't just stopping or deferring updates, the problem is not
being able to stop particular updates while allowing others.

It's just broken. In Settings, doesn't matter what you see written
there, you have no control over individual updates. If it says it will
download them and then let you choose, it's lying. It's all or nothing.

Clearly giving Windows 10 away is justification for making a mockery of
its users.

On 02/01/2016 01:36:31, John Doe wrote:
"Sir_George" wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to prevent
Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are delivered
has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization part
of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes hardware
drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

The following link should provide some help;

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...ng-updates-in-
windows-10/

The problem isn't just stopping or deferring updates, the problem is not
being able to stop particular updates while allowing others.

It's just broken. In Settings, doesn't matter what you see written
there, you have no control over individual updates. If it says it will
download them and then let you choose, it's lying. It's all or nothing.

Clearly giving Windows 10 away is justification for making a mockery of
its users.

I have just put this on a win10 test laptop two hours ago, so have no
experience other that it updated office 2010 with security files and I
was able to hide some printer updates that it wanted to do.

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/10/win...ating-windows/

more info:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threa....380535/page-2

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http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...pdate-MiniTool

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mick

mick wrote in
:

John Doe wrote:
"Sir_George" wrote:
John Doe wrote:

I have tried some of the suggestions from various websites to
prevent Microsoft automatically serving updates.

Using the group policy editor to change the way updates are
delivered has no effect on my Windows 10 Professional.

Declaring my Wi-Fi connection "metered" works in a haphazard way
since that cannot be done until after being connected.

Using services to completely disable Windows updates seems to work
but doesn't allow choosing individual updates.

Microsoft should know better than to take away the customization
part of Windows updates since, among other things, sometimes
hardware drivers are "updated" incorrectly.

The following link should provide some help;

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...ling-updates-i
n- windows-10/

The problem isn't just stopping or deferring updates, the problem is
not being able to stop particular updates while allowing others.

It's just broken. In Settings, doesn't matter what you see written
there, you have no control over individual updates. If it says it
will download them and then let you choose, it's lying. It's all or
nothing.

Clearly giving Windows 10 away is justification for making a mockery
of its users.

I have just put this on a win10 test laptop two hours ago, so have no
experience other that it updated office 2010 with security files and I
was able to hide some printer updates that it wanted to do.

Looks interesting, but how did you stop Windows 10 from automatically
updating?











http://www.ghacks.net/2015/10/10/win...ating-windows/

more info:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threa....380535/page-2

more info:
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thr...pdate-MiniTool

download latest version 26.12.2015 he
https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?c...older=53470283