No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sendsit to Chinese server

On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

Mac OS was beginning to struggle under Extensions and other changed
tacked on to an older OS.

that's because extensions patched all sorts of stuff, often not that
well, causing problems with other extensions, especially ones that
patched the same traps, as well as unrelated apps.

Yes. I remember playing with the Extensions manager and having different
sets for different needs. I do NOT miss that.

Apple knew they had to move to a newer /
better kernel.

yep. and they're thinking about that even now. technology moves fast.
nothing lasts forever.

I know they are always looking to improve macOS, but are they looking to
replace the full kernel? Would be interested in hearing about that.

When Mac OS X was first released, Jobs *did* say the plan was to have it
work for the next 20 years. We are not too far from that.


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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

In article , Snit
wrote:

Mac OS was beginning to struggle under Extensions and other changed
tacked on to an older OS.

that's because extensions patched all sorts of stuff, often not that
well, causing problems with other extensions, especially ones that
patched the same traps, as well as unrelated apps.

Yes. I remember playing with the Extensions manager and having different
sets for different needs. I do NOT miss that.

some were rather slick while others were pretty bad. some had to run in
a particular order because one or more patched things incorrectly.

Apple knew they had to move to a newer /
better kernel.

yep. and they're thinking about that even now. technology moves fast.
nothing lasts forever.

I know they are always looking to improve macOS, but are they looking to
replace the full kernel? Would be interested in hearing about that.

nobody outside of specific groups at apple knows what's being
considered for future products, let alone actually released, but
they're always looking at options.

When Mac OS X was first released, Jobs *did* say the plan was to have it
work for the next 20 years. We are not too far from that.

yep.

On 2018-11-09 7:19 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:50:20 -0700, Snit, tweeted:

snip

Ugh, who gives a **** anymore?


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On 2018-11-09 7:51 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.

Over the years, I've seen the unions here strike three times I believe
(been teaching for fifteen years) and I have yet to see any improvement
of our conditions other than reduced-size classes. Of course, that only
happened in the French system I used to be a part of; in the English
system, the classes are still rather large. Of course, it's not a big
deal because English students are so much better behaved than the filth
I used to have to deal with in the French system.

In terms of salary though, the maximum salary hasn't moved much and in a
while and in terms of insurance, we get decent life insurance but
absolutely nothing else. That's why so many teachers have such awful
teeth. Lucky for me, my wife's insurance pays for everything.

But that's not the worst we have to deal with. You always have a chance
that you'll end up with some aggressive gorilla like this one:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1177874485696885&id=10000 4230346811
The worst part, for me, is the fact that the teacher takes it and is
apologetic about what just happened. That's what the socialist education
system does to teachers: it attempts to make us incredibly passive to
keep our job. It didn't work for me (which is why I never had severe
discipline issues from students), but the women often become
marshmallows who let all sorts of garbage happen in their classes. If
there's anything teachers should strike about, it's the fact that these
kids do whatever they want, including punching a teacher, and don't get
arrested.

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On 2018-11-10 8:38 a.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

snip

Useless diatribe, most likely.

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On 11/10/18 7:53 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-10 8:38 a.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

Mac OS was beginning to struggle under Extensions and other changed
tacked on to an older OS.

that's because extensions patched all sorts of stuff, often not that
well, causing problems with other extensions, especially ones that
patched the same traps, as well as unrelated apps.

Yes. I remember playing with the Extensions manager and having different
sets for different needs. I do NOT miss that.

some were rather slick while others were pretty bad. some had to run in
a particular order because one or more patched things incorrectly.

Apple knew they had to move to a newer /
better kernel.

yep. and they're thinking about that even now. technology moves fast.
nothing lasts forever.

I know they are always looking to improve macOS, but are they looking to
replace the full kernel? Would be interested in hearing about that.

nobody outside of specific groups at apple knows what's being
considered for future products, let alone actually released, but
they're always looking at options.

When Mac OS X was first released, Jobs *did* say the plan was to have it
work for the next 20 years. We are not too far from that.

yep
Useless diatribe, most likely.

Why did you post when you had nothing to say other than to insult others
in an effort to feel better about yourself.

Oh.

Got it.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:30:43 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 19:51, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.



It's time you went to college to become a teacher. I'm sure you will be
very good at it. It's obvious you have expert opinions on the system.

Nah, I can no be a teacher, no patients
Hell, just the two things I listed above is $50,000,000/year.
Bam! ... Books.

In the 20 minutes I researched this, I'm beginning to wonder that it might
be more cost effective to simply give every child $250,000 at birth.
You're born, you get a SS# and a quarter million in an account that bears
interest for the next 18 years.

Let the parents teach 'em to read, write, arithmetic ... a few might learn
calculus too.

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On 11/10/18 7:48 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-09 7:51 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to
move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up
being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet
have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another
raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.

Over the years, I've seen the unions here strike three times I believe
(been teaching for fifteen years) and I have yet to see any improvement
of our conditions other than reduced-size classes. Of course, that only
happened in the French system I used to be a part of; in the English
system, the classes are still rather large. Of course, it's not a big
deal because English students are so much better behaved than the filth
I used to have to deal with in the French system.

In terms of salary though, the maximum salary hasn't moved much and in a
while and in terms of insurance, we get decent life insurance but
absolutely nothing else. That's why so many teachers have such awful
teeth. Lucky for me, my wife's insurance pays for everything.

But that's not the worst we have to deal with. You always have a chance
that you'll end up with some aggressive gorilla like this one:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1177874485696885&id=10000 4230346811
The worst part, for me, is the fact that the teacher takes it and is
apologetic about what just happened. That's what the socialist education
system does to teachers: it attempts to make us incredibly passive to
keep our job. It didn't work for me (which is why I never had severe
discipline issues from students), but the women often become
marshmallows who let all sorts of garbage happen in their classes. If
there's anything teachers should strike about, it's the fact that these
kids do whatever they want, including punching a teacher, and don't get
arrested.


Someone who is as openly and clearly bigoted as you, as you even show
above, should not be allowed to teach.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On 11/10/18 7:40 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-11-09 7:19 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 16:50:20 -0700, Snit, tweeted:

snip

Ugh, who gives a **** anymore?



You, clearly.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On 11/10/18 11:14 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:30:43 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 19:51, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.



It's time you went to college to become a teacher. I'm sure you will be
very good at it. It's obvious you have expert opinions on the system.

Nah, I can no be a teacher, no patients
Hell, just the two things I listed above is $50,000,000/year.
Bam! ... Books.

In the 20 minutes I researched this, I'm beginning to wonder that it might
be more cost effective to simply give every child $250,000 at birth.
You're born, you get a SS# and a quarter million in an account that bears
interest for the next 18 years.

Let the parents teach 'em to read, write, arithmetic ... a few might learn
calculus too.


You just want to hand out money. Oy.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 09:48:15 -0500, SilverSlimer, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 7:51 p.m., Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.

Over the years, I've seen the unions here strike three times I believe
(been teaching for fifteen years) and I have yet to see any improvement
of our conditions other than reduced-size classes. Of course, that only
happened in the French system I used to be a part of; in the English
system, the classes are still rather large. Of course, it's not a big
deal because English students are so much better behaved than the filth
I used to have to deal with in the French system.

In terms of salary though, the maximum salary hasn't moved much and in a
while and in terms of insurance, we get decent life insurance but
absolutely nothing else. That's why so many teachers have such awful
teeth. Lucky for me, my wife's insurance pays for everything.

But that's not the worst we have to deal with. You always have a chance
that you'll end up with some aggressive gorilla like this one:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1177874485696885&id=10000 4230346811
The worst part, for me, is the fact that the teacher takes it and is
apologetic about what just happened. That's what the socialist education
system does to teachers: it attempts to make us incredibly passive to
keep our job. It didn't work for me (which is why I never had severe
discipline issues from students), but the women often become
marshmallows who let all sorts of garbage happen in their classes. If
there's anything teachers should strike about, it's the fact that these
kids do whatever they want, including punching a teacher, and don't get
arrested.

Yeah, I'm with you on the kids behaviour.

I don't think salaries are too bad, from what I've looked at, for a job
that gives you the summer off.

Teachers should receive good health/dental/vision insurance.
I had always imagined that they did.

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On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:26:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/9/18 5:51 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.


What are you even trying to say?

That it isn't lack of funding, it's responsible, sensible spending of the
money the have.

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:17:51 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/10/18 11:14 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:30:43 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 19:51, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.



It's time you went to college to become a teacher. I'm sure you will be
very good at it. It's obvious you have expert opinions on the system.

Nah, I can no be a teacher, no patients
Hell, just the two things I listed above is $50,000,000/year.
Bam! ... Books.

In the 20 minutes I researched this, I'm beginning to wonder that it might
be more cost effective to simply give every child $250,000 at birth.
You're born, you get a SS# and a quarter million in an account that bears
interest for the next 18 years.

Let the parents teach 'em to read, write, arithmetic ... a few might learn
calculus too.


You just want to hand out money. Oy.

Heck, with that platform, I'd be elected President taking 92% of the vote.

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In article , Wolf K
wrote:


'small', which is very clearly *not* applicable to laptops or desktops.

"Small" is relative.

yep, and desktop/laptop use is anything but small.

On 11/10/18 11:22 AM, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:26:32 -0700, Snit, tweeted:
On 11/9/18 5:51 PM, Spooge wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:41:04 -0500, Wolf K, tweeted:
On 2018-11-09 17:20, Snit wrote:
On 11/9/18 1:09 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-08 22:32, Snit wrote:
On 11/8/18 8:19 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Snit
wrote:

however, chromebooks are very strong in education.

And as a teacher, I have to admit that I made the choice to move to
Chromebooks myself in the school I worked at a few years ago.
They tend
to last longer than any PC and since they reset with each reboot,
you
don't have to worry about security as much as you would a PC in
general.
Whatever PCs the schools do reset as well since they load the
operating
system from scratch every time, but the boot process ends up being
insanely slow in contract to a generic Chromebook.

yep, and if a chromebook is damaged, simply replace it, the kid
logs in
and all of his work is as it was before. they're also cheap enough
that
it doesn't matter that much.


Cheap enough if the school has money... which is sadly not a given.

that is very true.

Schools in my district have no text books. It is insane.



You have local vote on school taxes, right? And minimal if any State
support to compensate for low local taxes.

We have little funding for schools. From ANY source. Period. This is a
state-wide problem... which is not surprising given how it is a "red"
state. We have been listed as the number 50 state for being a teacher.

Too bad. I'm sure people use fundraisers etc to meliorate the bad
effects of under funding, and I wish them all possible success.


They fund vacant buildings, spend $24,000,000 on desegregation, yet have no
desegregation plan, got a teacher raise, went on strike for another raise,
though didn't strike over lack of books.

It's all about the kids though.

Cue bull****.


What are you even trying to say?

That it isn't lack of funding, it's responsible, sensible spending of the
money the have.


A claim you will never back. Fair enough.

How about we fund our education system the same level we fund our military.

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308