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Copying the "Windows" and "Documents and Settings" folders ???
On 2/18/15 1:57 PM, philo wrote:
On 02/18/2015 01:22 PM, wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:59:01 -0600, philo wrote: The reason I want to copy the Windows folder is to be able to do a complete restore, if my HDD fails, snip Then your scheme will fail. What you need to do is clone your hard drive to another one...or create a restorable "image". So, what if I use that "backup" included with XP, and do an image of Windows "backup" does not image the drive you need 3rd party software to do that IIRC, for XP's backup system, you need a special boot floppy for it to work. That's what I remember, anyway. I would go with a 3rd party program. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 33.1 Thunderbird 31.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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On 02/18/2015 05:50 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On What you need to do is clone your hard drive to another one...or create a restorable "image". So, what if I use that "backup" included with XP, and do an image of Windows "backup" does not image the drive you need 3rd party software to do that IIRC, for XP's backup system, you need a special boot floppy for it to work. That's what I remember, anyway. I would go with a 3rd party program. You don't need a boot floppy , the backup creates a file that is stored on another drive (or in the old days a tape) What not everyone knows is that when you get a new hard drive, the manufacturer usually has free imagining software. If it does not come with the drive it should be on their website. Such programs are usually a modified version of an existing commercial program that will work as long as one of the drives is from the same manufacturer. Just as an example here is a link to Seagate http://www.seagate.com/support/downl...ard-master-dl/ |
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Copying the "Windows" and "Documents and Settings" folders ???
On 2/18/15 6:00 PM, philo wrote:
On 02/18/2015 05:50 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On What you need to do is clone your hard drive to another one...or create a restorable "image". So, what if I use that "backup" included with XP, and do an image of Windows "backup" does not image the drive you need 3rd party software to do that IIRC, for XP's backup system, you need a special boot floppy for it to work. That's what I remember, anyway. I would go with a 3rd party program. You don't need a boot floppy , the backup creates a file that is stored on another drive (or in the old days a tape) Interesting. I know when I went to make a system image in order to restore a potential crashed XP Pro installation I have, the first thing it asked me to do was to create an "ASR" diskette. I think it stands for Advanced System Restore, but that was long, long ago. When I got that message, I stropped as I didn't want the hassle of dealing with a floppy. What not everyone knows is that when you get a new hard drive, the manufacturer usually has free imagining software. If it does not come with the drive it should be on their website. Such programs are usually a modified version of an existing commercial program that will work as long as one of the drives is from the same manufacturer. I noticed it's usually a version of Acronis. Just as an example here is a link to Seagate http://www.seagate.com/support/downl...ard-master-dl/ -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 33.1 Thunderbird 31.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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philo wrote:
On 02/18/2015 05:50 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On What you need to do is clone your hard drive to another one...or create a restorable "image". So, what if I use that "backup" included with XP, and do an image of Windows "backup" does not image the drive you need 3rd party software to do that IIRC, for XP's backup system, you need a special boot floppy for it to work. That's what I remember, anyway. I would go with a 3rd party program. You don't need a boot floppy , the backup creates a file that is stored on another drive (or in the old days a tape) What not everyone knows is that when you get a new hard drive, the manufacturer usually has free imagining software. If it does not come with the drive it should be on their website. Such programs are usually a modified version of an existing commercial program that will work as long as one of the drives is from the same manufacturer. Just as an example here is a link to Seagate http://www.seagate.com/support/downl...ard-master-dl/ IIRC, one is for Seagate drives, and another one available was for WD (Western Digital) drives. I think they're both just stripped down (very basic) versions of Acronis True Image. |
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Copying the "Windows" and "Documents and Settings" folders ???
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:16:25 -0500, Paul wrote:
I back up everything here, on an irregular basis. Thats what I do too. Why do I do it ? The danger of Cryptolocker, or the mess that Sality would make. The backup drive is disconnected from the computer, for safety, so neither of those pests can get it. I dont leave mine plugged in either, if for no other reason it takes forever for the computer to boot if that drive is plugged in. The total storage space taken is 1TB. It takes the better part of a whole day, to run that stuff (but using VSS based backup tools I can continue working if I want). Is that all? I took me 3 days to copy my 192 Gigs. But I only have USB 1, on this 14 year old computer, which I know is slower than USB 2. My laptop has USB 2, and copies faster. |
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Copying the "Windows" and "Documents and Settings" folders ???
On 02/18/2015 07:26 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
snip pe) Interesting. I know when I went to make a system image in order to restore a potential crashed XP Pro installation I have, the first thing it asked me to do was to create an "ASR" diskette. I think it stands for Advanced System Restore, but that was long, long ago. When I got that message, I stropped as I didn't want the hassle of dealing with a floppy. I've seen that message somewhere along the line but have never pair any attention to it. I doubt if anyone uses floppies any more. I stopped putting them the machine I build many years ago and have not once had someone ask for one. Two years ago however I needed some to re-install OS/2 on a CNC machine controller I was working on and found that 90% of the old floppies I had stored were bad. At least I got the back of my closet cleaned out a bit. What not everyone knows is that when you get a new hard drive, the manufacturer usually has free imagining software. If it does not come with the drive it should be on their website. Such programs are usually a modified version of an existing commercial program that will work as long as one of the drives is from the same manufacturer. I noticed it's usually a version of Acronis. Yep. it's been a while since I cloned a hard drive but believe it was Acronis. At any rate it worked reasonably fast and without a problem |
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In message , Ken Springer
writes: On 2/18/15 6:00 PM, philo wrote: On 02/18/2015 05:50 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On What you need to do is clone your hard drive to another one...or create a restorable "image". So, what if I use that "backup" included with XP, and do an image of Windows "backup" does not image the drive you need 3rd party software to do that IIRC, for XP's backup system, you need a special boot floppy for it to work. That's what I remember, anyway. I would go with a 3rd party program. You don't need a boot floppy , the backup creates a file that is stored on another drive (or in the old days a tape) Interesting. I know when I went to make a system image in order to restore a potential crashed XP Pro installation I have, the first thing it asked me to do was to create an "ASR" diskette. I think it stands for Advanced System Restore, but that was long, long ago. When I got [] You need something you can boot from. In systems that have no floppy drive, you can make bootable CDs. Whether XP's own backup system can make those, I don't know. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Bother," said the Borg, "we assimilated a Pooh." |
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Copying the "Windows" and "Documents and Settings" folders ???
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Springer writes: On 2/18/15 6:00 PM, philo wrote: On 02/18/2015 05:50 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On What you need to do is clone your hard drive to another one...or create a restorable "image". So, what if I use that "backup" included with XP, and do an image of Windows "backup" does not image the drive you need 3rd party software to do that IIRC, for XP's backup system, you need a special boot floppy for it to work. That's what I remember, anyway. I would go with a 3rd party program. You don't need a boot floppy , the backup creates a file that is stored on another drive (or in the old days a tape) Interesting. I know when I went to make a system image in order to restore a potential crashed XP Pro installation I have, the first thing it asked me to do was to create an "ASR" diskette. I think it stands for Advanced System Restore, but that was long, long ago. When I got [] You need something you can boot from. In systems that have no floppy drive, you can make bootable CDs. Whether XP's own backup system can make those, I don't know. I have a BartPE disc with an NTBackup plugin in it, but I haven't needed to thoroughly test it. So you could use an approach like that. The NTBackup plugin may want a VSS subsystem, even if such a thing is not needed from a recovery boot CD to make the whole process work. To get BartPE to work on my newer PC, I had to flip from AHCI back to IDE on the SATA ports. Then it could boot. I might have made the BartPE CD four years ago or so (you make it using your WinXP installer CD as "starting materials"). With WAIK and ADK, maybe there's some way to make a slightly more useful (recovery) CD. Paul |
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