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Old February 13th 15, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Win XP Pro SP latest update.
I have a Fujitsu A6025 laptop.
It has USB2 only.
But it does have the large double MMC slots to those cards.

Is there and can anyone recommend a card that will give me USB3
capability?

I would like to get better speed moving files to my flash and external
USB drives.
It does not need to fully support the USB high end speed but any
improvement would be great.

Also a card for Serial RS232 ? (rather than the USB to Serial RS232
cable)

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Old February 13th 15, 09:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Oops -
It has an Express Card Slot and PC Card Slot (not MMC).
That is what I want to use for the USB3 and/or Serial RS232.

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Old February 13th 15, 10:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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From: "Bob R"

Oops -
It has an Express Card Slot and PC Card Slot (not MMC).
That is what I want to use for the USB3 and/or Serial RS232.


ExpressCard Serial Port (RS232) Card

http://www.usconverters.com/serial-express-card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-033-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-018-_-Product


ExpressCard USB 3.0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-004-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-037-_-Product




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Old February 14th 15, 06:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:37:19 -0500, David H. Lipman wrote:

Oops -
It has an Express Card Slot and PC Card Slot (not MMC).
That is what I want to use for the USB3 and/or Serial RS232.


ExpressCard Serial Port (RS232) Card

http://www.usconverters.com/serial-express-card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-033-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-018-_-Product


ExpressCard USB 3.0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-004-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-037-_-Product


Make sure you check that drivers for XP are available before buying
these, especially with the USB 3.0 card - it's not likely that there
are any drivers for XP.

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Old February 14th 15, 12:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David H. Lipman
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From: "Rodney Pont"

Make sure you check that drivers for XP are available before buying
these, especially with the USB 3.0 card - it's not likely that there
are any drivers for XP.


Well thank you for that "vote of confidence" that when someone requests
hardware in a WinXP News Group I would supply specific URLs for said
hardware and that I would choose hardware that would not be Windows XP
compliant.


ExpressCard Serial Port (RS232) Card

http://www.usconverters.com/serial-express-card
Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP32, Server 2003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-033-_-Product
Windows® 8 / 8.1 (32bit), 7 (32/64), Vista (32/64), XP (32/64), 2000, XP
Embedded, CE 6.0/5.0
Windows Server® 2008 R2, 2003, 2000
Linux 2.4.x 2.6.x

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-018-_-Product
Win 7 32/64 bit, Windows 2000, XP 32/64-bit, Server 2003 32/64-bit, Vista
32/64-bit, Linux, Mac OS, and DOS


ExpressCard USB 3.0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-004-_-Product
http://www.iogear.com/product/GEU302/
Windows XP®, Windows Vista®, Windows 7®, Windows® 8, Windows® 8.1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-037-_-Product
Windows XP(32/64-bit)/ Server 2003(32/64-bit)/ Vista(32/64-bit)/ Server 2008
R2/ 7(32/64-bit)/ 8(32/64-bit)






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Old February 15th 15, 12:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bob R[_2_]
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David H. Lipman brought next idea :
From: "Rodney Pont"

Make sure you check that drivers for XP are available before buying
these, especially with the USB 3.0 card - it's not likely that there
are any drivers for XP.


Well thank you for that "vote of confidence" that when someone requests
hardware in a WinXP News Group I would supply specific URLs for said hardware
and that I would choose hardware that would not be Windows XP compliant.


ExpressCard Serial Port (RS232) Card

http://www.usconverters.com/serial-express-card
Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP32, Server 2003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-033-_-Product
Windows® 8 / 8.1 (32bit), 7 (32/64), Vista (32/64), XP (32/64), 2000, XP
Embedded, CE 6.0/5.0
Windows Server® 2008 R2, 2003, 2000
Linux 2.4.x 2.6.x

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-018-_-Product
Win 7 32/64 bit, Windows 2000, XP 32/64-bit, Server 2003 32/64-bit, Vista
32/64-bit, Linux, Mac OS, and DOS


ExpressCard USB 3.0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-004-_-Product
http://www.iogear.com/product/GEU302/
Windows XP®, Windows Vista®, Windows 7®, Windows® 8, Windows® 8.1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-037-_-Product
Windows XP(32/64-bit)/ Server 2003(32/64-bit)/ Vista(32/64-bit)/ Server 2008
R2/ 7(32/64-bit)/ 8(32/64-bit)


Thank you!

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Old February 15th 15, 01:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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From: "Bob R"



Thank you!


YW



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Old February 19th 15, 09:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...

From: "Bob R"



Thank you!


YW


Hey David, do you have a different recommendation for Win7 HP 64bit?
Just curious, since I am thinking about it.
Thanks,
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Old February 19th 15, 10:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David H. Lipman
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From: "Buffalo"

Hey David, do you have a different recommendation for Win7 HP 64bit?
Just curious, since I am thinking about it.
Thanks,


Can you please be more specific...

What hardware do you require and what is the platform the hardware is to be
installed in (Make & Model) to be used under Win7/64 ?



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Old February 20th 15, 07:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Buffalo[_3_]
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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...

From: "Buffalo"

Hey David, do you have a different recommendation for Win7 HP 64bit?
Just curious, since I am thinking about it.
Thanks,


Can you please be more specific...

What hardware do you require and what is the platform the hardware is to be
installed in (Make & Model) to be used under Win7/64 ?




Sorry for the poorly worded and incomplete question.
I was just curious about adding a couple of USB-3 ports on my pc for future
use with an external HDD for backup purposes and perhaps some future
hardware..
It is an HP P7-1245 desktop with an i-5 3.1GHz cpu and 8 GB of ram and and
3 empty PCI Express x1 slots and 1 empty PCI Express Mini Card x1 slot.
Thanks,

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Old February 20th 15, 10:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David H. Lipman
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Default USB3 & Serial RS232

From: "Buffalo"


Sorry for the poorly worded and incomplete question.
I was just curious about adding a couple of USB-3 ports on my pc for
future use with an external HDD for backup purposes and perhaps some
future hardware..
It is an HP P7-1245 desktop with an i-5 3.1GHz cpu and 8 GB of ram and
and 3 empty PCI Express x1 slots and 1 empty PCI Express Mini Card x1
slot.
Thanks,


Mediasonic HP1-U34F PCI Express USB 3.0 PCI Express Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-014-_-Product
Windows XP, VISTA (32 / 64), 7 (32 / 64), 8 (32 / 64)
Mac OS 10.8.2 or later


ORICO PVU3-5O2U USB3.0 7 - Ports Desktop PCI - Express Card with VL800 &
VL812 USB 3.0 Controller
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0018-_-Product
Windows XP , 2003 , Vista , 2008 , 7 and Windows 8 32 or 64Bit , Various
Linux Kernels


SYBA 2-Port USB 3.0 PCI-Express Card, x1, Revision 1.0; Renesas Chipset with
Full & Low Profile Brackets Model SD-PEX20160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-146-_-Product
Windows 7, Vista, XP, Server 2008


Wintec FileMate 4-Port USB 3.0 PCI Express Card Model 3FMPCIE02U3-4P-R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-005-_-Product
Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7





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Old February 20th 15, 11:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Buffalo wrote:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...

From: "Buffalo"

Hey David, do you have a different recommendation for Win7 HP 64bit?
Just curious, since I am thinking about it.
Thanks,


Can you please be more specific...

What hardware do you require and what is the platform the hardware is
to be installed in (Make & Model) to be used under Win7/64 ?




Sorry for the poorly worded and incomplete question.
I was just curious about adding a couple of USB-3 ports on my pc for
future use with an external HDD for backup purposes and perhaps some
future hardware..
It is an HP P7-1245 desktop with an i-5 3.1GHz cpu and 8 GB of ram and
and 3 empty PCI Express x1 slots and 1 empty PCI Express Mini Card x1 slot.
Thanks,


Since Win7 is 50% of the PC market, a company would
be pretty foolish to *not* have a Windows 7 driver.

I think Windows 8 is using a Microsoft-provided driver.
It's possible older OSes, you have to check the web site
for the product and make sure it has a driver.

*******

I checked the one I got, and it's a Siig brand product
with a NEC chip on a PCI Express x1 card.

The accompanying docs say:

Win8 - driver built-in on OS
Win7/Vista/WinXP - driver on provided CD
Earlier OS - out of luck (no Win2K)

My motherboard slot is likely to be x1 Rev1.1 or 250MB/sec.
I have a spare video card slot which is Rev2, where
a single lane in the slot is 500MB/sec. This choice makes
a difference to the speed you get over USB3.0. In other words,
if I want a "better" USB3 connection, instead of a "good" USB3
connection, I need to change slots for my add-in Siig
USB3 card.

A typical disk enclosure chip, might manage 200MB/sec. There
are some UASP "dock" controller chips, where you plug in a hard
drive, where they get closer to 500MB/sec (maybe about 450 or so).

Using a PCI Express x1 Rev2 slot isn't actually the fastest
configuration. If your Southbridge (chipset) has USB3 native,
it connects to the CPU over DMI, which has better bandwidth
than the add-on choice of PCI Express Rev.2. This could be fixed
if an expansion USB3 chip used PCI Express x1 Rev.3, but only
video card slots have that. And I don't think any chip makers
other than video card companies, are interested in that standard.
I think it manages 985MB/sec and would be perfect for USB3.0.
Maybe even USB3.1, when it comes out (soon).

Bandwidth ranking:

USB3.0 on PCI Express x1 Rev.1.1 - good for disk drives
USB3.0 on PCI Express x1 Rev.2.0 - good for USB3 enclosure with SSD drive
- good for Blackmagic Shuttle video capture
USB3.0 on Southbridge - maybe 5% better than previous one at a guess
- good for benchmark contests
USB3.1 - coming soon... will be faster still

Paul
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Old February 21st 15, 02:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Buffalo[_3_]
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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...

From: "Buffalo"


Sorry for the poorly worded and incomplete question.
I was just curious about adding a couple of USB-3 ports on my pc for
future use with an external HDD for backup purposes and perhaps some
future hardware..
It is an HP P7-1245 desktop with an i-5 3.1GHz cpu and 8 GB of ram and
and 3 empty PCI Express x1 slots and 1 empty PCI Express Mini Card x1
slot.
Thanks,


Mediasonic HP1-U34F PCI Express USB 3.0 PCI Express Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-014-_-Product
Windows XP, VISTA (32 / 64), 7 (32 / 64), 8 (32 / 64)
Mac OS 10.8.2 or later


ORICO PVU3-5O2U USB3.0 7 - Ports Desktop PCI - Express Card with VL800 &
VL812 USB 3.0 Controller
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0018-_-Product
Windows XP , 2003 , Vista , 2008 , 7 and Windows 8 32 or 64Bit , Various
Linux Kernels


SYBA 2-Port USB 3.0 PCI-Express Card, x1, Revision 1.0; Renesas Chipset
with Full & Low Profile Brackets Model SD-PEX20160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-146-_-Product
Windows 7, Vista, XP, Server 2008


Wintec FileMate 4-Port USB 3.0 PCI Express Card Model 3FMPCIE02U3-4P-R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-005-_-Product
Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7






Thanks a bunch for the links and your time and research.
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Old February 21st 15, 02:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"Paul" wrote in message ...

Buffalo wrote:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...

From: "Buffalo"

Hey David, do you have a different recommendation for Win7 HP 64bit?
Just curious, since I am thinking about it.
Thanks,

Can you please be more specific...

What hardware do you require and what is the platform the hardware is to
be installed in (Make & Model) to be used under Win7/64 ?




Sorry for the poorly worded and incomplete question.
I was just curious about adding a couple of USB-3 ports on my pc for
future use with an external HDD for backup purposes and perhaps some
future hardware..
It is an HP P7-1245 desktop with an i-5 3.1GHz cpu and 8 GB of ram and
and 3 empty PCI Express x1 slots and 1 empty PCI Express Mini Card x1
slot.
Thanks,


Since Win7 is 50% of the PC market, a company would
be pretty foolish to *not* have a Windows 7 driver.

I think Windows 8 is using a Microsoft-provided driver.
It's possible older OSes, you have to check the web site
for the product and make sure it has a driver.

*******

I checked the one I got, and it's a Siig brand product
with a NEC chip on a PCI Express x1 card.

The accompanying docs say:

Win8 - driver built-in on OS
Win7/Vista/WinXP - driver on provided CD
Earlier OS - out of luck (no Win2K)

My motherboard slot is likely to be x1 Rev1.1 or 250MB/sec.
I have a spare video card slot which is Rev2, where
a single lane in the slot is 500MB/sec. This choice makes
a difference to the speed you get over USB3.0. In other words,
if I want a "better" USB3 connection, instead of a "good" USB3
connection, I need to change slots for my add-in Siig
USB3 card.

A typical disk enclosure chip, might manage 200MB/sec. There
are some UASP "dock" controller chips, where you plug in a hard
drive, where they get closer to 500MB/sec (maybe about 450 or so).

Using a PCI Express x1 Rev2 slot isn't actually the fastest
configuration. If your Southbridge (chipset) has USB3 native,
it connects to the CPU over DMI, which has better bandwidth
than the add-on choice of PCI Express Rev.2. This could be fixed
if an expansion USB3 chip used PCI Express x1 Rev.3, but only
video card slots have that. And I don't think any chip makers
other than video card companies, are interested in that standard.
I think it manages 985MB/sec and would be perfect for USB3.0.
Maybe even USB3.1, when it comes out (soon).

Bandwidth ranking:

USB3.0 on PCI Express x1 Rev.1.1 - good for disk drives
USB3.0 on PCI Express x1 Rev.2.0 - good for USB3 enclosure with SSD drive
- good for Blackmagic Shuttle video
capture
USB3.0 on Southbridge - maybe 5% better than previous one at a
guess
- good for benchmark contests
USB3.1 - coming soon... will be faster still

Paul

Really appreciate your info and thoughtful explanations.
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Old February 24th 15, 03:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David H. Lipman
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From: "Buffalo"


Thanks a bunch for the links and your time and research.


YW



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