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Old March 11th 09, 06:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces? Ran JkDefrag v3.36 overnight...

Phillip

Do not despair. That is a lot better than it was.

I do not know the answer to your question.

I would try Defraggler. You can defragment single files. Work throgh the
smaller files leaving the largest until the end.

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FYI from its log (C: and E: look nice, but not D:

19:32:04 JkDefrag v3.36
19:32:04 Date: 2009/03/10
19:32:04 Windows version: v5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2
19:32:04 NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate is inactive, using LastAccessTime for
SpaceHogs.
...
20:06:04 Analyzing volume 'D:\'
20:06:04 Processing 'D:\*'
20:06:04 Opening volume '\\?\Volume{1493078b-c0f3-11d9-b4e2-806d6172696f}'
at mountpoint 'D:'
20:06:04 Input mask: D:\*
20:06:07 Phase 1: Analyze
20:06:07 This is an NTFS disk.
20:06:12 Phase 2: Defragment
21:30:48 Phase 3: Fixup
21:33:13 Zone 1: Fast Optimize
21:33:28 Zone 2: Fast Optimize
21:35:03 Zone 3: Fast Optimize
21:36:19 Phase 3: Fixup
21:36:36 Finished.
21:36:36 - Total disk space: 56384293888 bytes (52.5120 gigabytes),
110125574 clusters
21:36:36 - Bytes per cluster: 512 bytes
21:36:36 - Number of files: 17878
21:36:36 - Number of directories: 3384
21:36:36 - Total size of analyzed items: 47978034176 bytes (44.6830
gigabytes), 93707098 clusters
21:36:36 - Number of fragmented items: 13 (0.0611% of all items)
21:36:36 - Total size of fragmented items: 42000914944 bytes, 82033037
clusters, 87.5420% of all items, 74.4905% of disk
21:36:36 - Free disk space: 8388899840 bytes, 16384570 clusters, 14.8781%
of disk
21:36:36 - Number of gaps: 769
21:36:36 - Number of small gaps: 173 (22.4967% of all gaps)
21:36:36 - Size of small gaps: 394752 bytes, 771 clusters, 0.0047% of free
disk space
21:36:36 - Number of big gaps: 596 (77.5033% of all gaps)
21:36:36 - Size of big gaps: 8388505088 bytes, 16383799 clusters, 99.9953%
of free disk space
21:36:36 - Average gap size: 21306.3329 clusters
21:36:36 - Biggest gap: 209554944 bytes, 409287 clusters, 2.4980% of free
disk space
21:36:36 - Average end-begin distance: 2208846 clusters, 2.0058% of volume
size
21:36:36 These items could not be moved:
21:36:36 Fragments Bytes Clusters Name
21:36:36 1 4096 8 D:\$MFTMirr
21:36:36 1 67108864 131072 D:\$LogFile
21:36:36 13 0 1280 D:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\7465EB96.TMP
21:36:36 1 8192 16 D:\.
21:36:36 143 0 17872 D:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\0EA02891.TMP
21:36:36 1 13765704 26887 D:\$Bitmap
21:36:36 2 5616 16 D:\$MFT::$BITMAP
21:36:36 --------- ----------- --------- -----
21:36:36 162 80892472 177151 Total
21:36:36 These items are still fragmented:
21:36:36 Fragments Bytes Clusters Name
21:36:36 13 0 1280 D:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\7465EB96.TMP
21:36:36 143 0 17872 D:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\0EA02891.TMP
21:36:36 2 5616 16 D:\$MFT::$BITMAP
21:36:36 103 3908435968 7633664
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional-000003.vmdk
21:36:36 3 361645056 706338 D:\Documents and
Settings\ppi\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outlook.ost
21:36:36 6 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmem
21:36:36 307 12826968064 25052672
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2 (Simplified Chinese) &
Linux\Windows XP Home Edition.vmdk
21:36:36 11 3546349568 6926464
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP Pro. SP2\Windows XP
Professional-000002.vmdk
21:36:36 153 9777250304 19096192
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Vista Home Basic N (experimental)\Windows
Vista (experimental).vmdk
21:36:36 48 1834156032 3582336
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP Pro. SP2\Windows XP
Professional.vmdk
21:36:36 92 7785938944 15206912
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
21:36:36 2 1681915904 3284992
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\French XP Pro. N SP3\Windows XP
Professional.vmdk
21:36:36 --------- ----------- --------- -----
21:36:36 883 41991100912 82033026 Total
21:36:36 The 25 largest items on disk:
21:36:36 Fragments Bytes Clusters Name
21:36:37 307 12826968064 25052672
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2 (Simplified Chinese) &
Linux\Windows XP Home Edition.vmdk
21:36:37 153 9777250304 19096192
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Vista Home Basic N (experimental)\Windows
Vista (experimental).vmdk
21:36:37 92 7785938944 15206912
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
21:36:37 103 3908435968 7633664
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional-000003.vmdk
21:36:37 11 3546349568 6926464
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP Pro. SP2\Windows XP
Professional-000002.vmdk
21:36:37 48 1834156032 3582336
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP Pro. SP2\Windows XP
Professional.vmdk
21:36:37 2 1681915904 3284992
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\French XP Pro. N SP3\Windows XP
Professional.vmdk
21:36:37 1 536870912 1048576
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Vista Home Basic N (experimental)\Windows
Vista (experimental).vmem
21:36:37 1 489488384 956032
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional-000002.vmdk
21:36:37 3 361645056 706338 D:\Documents and
Settings\ppi\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outlook.ost
21:36:37 1 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional-Snapshot377.vmem
21:36:37 6 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all
updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmem
21:36:37 1 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\French XP Pro. N SP3\Windows XP
Professional.vmem
21:36:37 1 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP Pro. SP2\Windows XP
Professional-Snapshot29.vmem
21:36:37 1 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP Pro. SP2\Windows XP
Professional.vmem
21:36:37 1 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2 (Simplified Chinese) &
Linux\564dd13e-6e47-0535-8f0e-4314c9073873.vmem
21:36:37 1 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2 (Simplified Chinese) &
Linux\Windows XP Home Edition-Snapshot7.vmem
21:36:37 1 268435456 524288
D:\VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2 (Simplified Chinese) &
Linux\Windows XP Home Edition.vmem
21:36:37 1 163053568 318464
D:\lotus\notes\Data\mail\ppi.nsf
21:36:37 1 67605683 132043 D:\work\tools\B134A.exe
21:36:37 1 67108864 131072 D:\$LogFile
21:36:37 1 63138613 123318 D:\work\tools\RM.exe
21:36:37 1 45957120 89760 D:\$MFT
21:36:37 1 43473926 84911 D:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Spybot - Search & Destroy\Backups\regUsers.reg
21:36:37 1 39553196 77253 D:\Temp\Release.tmf

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MS Defrag Analysis:

Volume DATA (D
Volume size = 52.51 GB
Cluster size = 512 bytes
Used space = 44.67 GB
Free space = 7.84 GB
Percent free space = 14 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 43 %
File fragmentation = 87 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 17,408
Average file size = 3 MB
Total fragmented files = 20
Total excess fragments = 904
Average fragments per file = 1.05

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 0 bytes
Total fragments = 0

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,236
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 44 MB
MFT record count = 21,089
Percent MFT in use = 46 %
Total MFT fragments = 2

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Most fragmented files
315 11.95 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\XP Home SP2
(Simplified Chinese) & Linux\Windows XP Home Edition.vmdk
153 9.11 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Vista Home
Basic N (experimental)\Windows Vista (experimental).vmdk
143 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\0EA02891.TMP
103 3.64 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000003.vmdk
92 7.25 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
48 1.71 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
13 0 bytes \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Symantec\SRTSP\SrtETmp\7465EB96.TMP
11 3.30 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\German XP
Pro. SP2\Windows XP Professional-000002.vmdk
10 17 KB \work\tools\JkDefrag-3.36\JkDefrag.log
6 256 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmem
4 64 KB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Spybot - Search & Destroy\Logs\Update downloads.log
4 128 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\2nd Smaller HDD-000004.vmdk
4 1 MB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP
Professional-000004.vmdk
4 8 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.nvram
3 345 MB \Documents and Settings\ppi\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outlook.ost
3 20 KB
\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-746137067-308236825-682003330-35013\INFO2
2 1.57 GB \VMware5images\CleanOS\Foreign\French XP
Pro. N SP3\Windows XP Professional.vmdk
2 1 KB \VMware5images\CleanOS\English\Windows XP
Pro. SP2 (Slipstreamed CD; all updates)\Windows XP Professional.vmx
2 32 KB \Documents and Settings\ppi\Local
Settings\History\History.IE5\MSHist012009031120090 312\index.dat
2 2 KB \Documents and Settings\ppi\Application
Data\VMware\favorites.vmls


Does this program or MS' defragger have an offline defragger (reboot,
defrag, and back to Windows)? I recalled PerfectDisk has this feature.

Thank you in advance.
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Symantec Corporation
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Old March 11th 09, 06:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gerry typed on Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:18:38 -0000:
Phillip

I can see why you are having problems.

The first thing is that volumes C and D do not have the normal 4 kb
cluster size. This can occur in certain situations if they are
converted from FAT32 to NTFS without taking precautions. See the link
which follows: http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.htm
The Default Cluster Size for the NTFS and FAT File Systems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314878/en-us

Other than reformatting I do not know how to correct the error. Of
course with your C volume that involves reinstalling Windows XP and
all that entails...


I disagree! I have used NTFS 512kb clusters before and I see nothing
wrong with them. Also Partition Magic can change the cluster sizes on
the fly. Although *not* always successfully I might add.

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2 Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 1GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 ~ Xandros Linux - Puppy - Ubuntu


Are you sure you mean 512KB, and not 512 byte? I think you mean 512 byte.


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Old March 11th 09, 06:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Philip

With SP2 a big aid to success was to use an SP2 CD. You lost the hassle of a
long download.

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"Phillip Pi" wrote in message
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On 3/11/2009 8:09 AM PT, Gerry wrote:

Upgrading to SP2 and to SP3 caused no problems here. Reading these
newsgroups one would think both were disaster because the large number of
problems reported but this is the nature of news today. You here about
everything that goes wrong and less often about the successes.


Same here on my most of test PCs and home PCs. I do make backups before I
do them just in case. One time, I had a laptop/notebook's SP1 to SP2
crashed, but it was fine after I resumed. It was a known issue (can't
remember the details since it was back in 2006 or so).
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Old March 11th 09, 07:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Yes my slip Hawkeye.

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"Bill in Co." wrote in message
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BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Gerry typed on Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:18:38 -0000:
Phillip

I can see why you are having problems.

The first thing is that volumes C and D do not have the normal 4 kb
cluster size. This can occur in certain situations if they are
converted from FAT32 to NTFS without taking precautions. See the link
which follows: http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.htm
The Default Cluster Size for the NTFS and FAT File Systems
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314878/en-us

Other than reformatting I do not know how to correct the error. Of
course with your C volume that involves reinstalling Windows XP and
all that entails...


I disagree! I have used NTFS 512kb clusters before and I see nothing
wrong with them. Also Partition Magic can change the cluster sizes on
the fly. Although *not* always successfully I might add.

--
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3 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
2 Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 1GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 ~ Xandros Linux - Puppy - Ubuntu


Are you sure you mean 512KB, and not 512 byte? I think you mean 512
byte.



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Old March 11th 09, 07:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:23:08 AM, and on a
whim, Gerry pounded out on the keyboard:

Terry

I do read all posts in a thread I participate in so I knew who said what.

I would agree that Microsoft should have explained how to use System Restore
better. In the majority of cases before the changes to the third party
security software I suspect it worked in the majority of cases. However the
changes Norton made to their software created problems for the millions of
users using Norton software. Blame Norton not Microsoft.

Do you recommend Norton software to your clients?



It's not how to use SR, it needs to work better and more reliably,
probably self-diagnosing and self-healing, so when it's called on in a
moments notice, it can perform the task.

I stopped recommending NAV back in 2002, although the corporate edition
for servers and networks works well. After everything I have read
recently about NAV, it appears Symantec may have corrected the issues
that drove users away for years. But it's almost too late IMO.

I recommend and install Antivir for individual clients.


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Old March 11th 09, 07:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:05:28 AM, and on a
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I don't understand why big companies have to take their systems
down for maintenance or system failures.


Talk to MS about that. Installing WU usually requires rebooting,
including servers.


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Old March 11th 09, 07:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:50:39 AM, and on a
whim, BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

In ,
Terry R. typed on Wed, 11 Mar 2009 07:54:29 -0700:
The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:49:45 AM, and on a
whim, BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

In ,
Terry R. typed on Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:38:23 -0700:
... I keep SR turned off all the time. The main reason is SR has
failed me and too many clients when it was really needed, so it's a
false sense of security IMO, so why depend on it at all.
Strange! It has saved my and millions of others all of the time.

You can speak for yourself. "Millions of others" I seriously doubt.
And I wouldn't be making false claims of it's usefulness without
experience.


I help people all of the time, and 99% of the time it fixes the problem.
Couple my experience times millions, it has to be in the millions.


Again, you can't "couple experience". Stating millions is your guess.

A good backup schedule is by far the best protection.
Software backups are totally useless if your hardware fails. So that
isn't a good plan in my book. Only software and hardware backups are
the only way to go IMHO.

Did I say software only? No. What's your point? On my workstation I
have 3 internal hard drives with partition copies of my OS's, data and
programs between the three, data drive backed up to another drive each
day. I have 3 external drives that I also back up too. On networks I
admin, our servers always use RAID 5 and weekly rotating tape backups,
along with Shadowing. Who are you preaching to?

You rely on SR and I'll stick to what I know works, okay?


Useless if your monitor, CPU, RAM, motherboard, power supply, etc.
fails. Then your backups won't do you any good, now will they? I don't
care what kind of warrantee or service contract you have, they can never
beat my system. As I am always back up and running in seconds or two
minutes tops.


The backups do exactly what they're designed to do. I don't care if the
items you list go bad. NO ONE can do anything about hardware failing.
It happens. Your argument is ridiculous in light of having a good
backup schedule.

You think because you buy two of everything you're covered? Good luck
with that, and the wasted expense.


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Old March 11th 09, 09:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Jose,

I apologize for posting off topic here, but a reply to your post is right on
target.
I am responsible for maintaining 38 computers here, and SP3 has turned 21 of
them into electric paper weights.

This software was deployed after waiting months to allow it to be fixed.
Well you could have fooled me by all the GOOD reports about it being safe to
install this poorly written software.

Thanks Microsoft, for all the extra overtime I will now have to put in, in
order to correct your premature publication of a (so called) "Critical"
update.

My advice on SP3 is don't bother installing it, unless you like to gamble
with your companies time and resources.

SP3 may work for some SYSTEMS, but it is it far from prime time ready.



"Jose" wrote:

On Mar 7, 12:09 pm, "Patrick Keenan" wrote:
"Ant" wrote in message

...

Hello.


Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's default
disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files (mostly
VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are there any
better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I think it is
because of the severe fragmentations.


It's the one that comes with XP.

This won't run with less than 15% free space, and if your drive is that
cramped, you should move files elsewhere.

Get another hard drive to store the VMware images. Where I am,
half-terabyte drives are under $100, decent cases around $30, and that would
end your problem for some time. If this is an office computer, it's
probably a tax-deductible business expense.

HTH
-pk



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Is this your desktop computer your office computer?

Why are you not running SP3? Why are so many that people that post
problems here not even current on software updates that are free and
highly recommended?

You are not current on your MS software. Your IT people, or somebody
you probably know, needs to fix this. I don't know of too many people
that are going to be happy to help you figure out why old software
does not work as you expect it to or believe it should.

Why do you have think you have VMWare images on your office computer?
Are you the VMWare administrator? Do you keep VMWare images on your
personal desktop computer? Do you know what a VMWare image is or do
you just see some big files that don't want to defragment and you
think they should?

VMWare usually runs on a separate and powerful VMWare server and
supplies the resources of an actual physical servers (boxes) as
virtual machines where physical servers are not available or possible
due to cost, environmental or personality factors. is your desktop a
VMWare server?

If you want VMWare to be happy, a VMWare server should be dedicated to
being a VMWare server only - happy with it's virtual machines and not
much else. You should not be touching it or defragmenting it if you
don't know what you are up to.

Do any of these situations apply to your environment?

Do you have a VMWare problem or is your desktop just not performing to
your expectations?


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Old March 11th 09, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Terry

I have read others saying what you have regarding the Corporate Edition. No
further changes will be made to System Restore in Windows XP. The function
in Vista has changes but not liking Vista I have not studied how it works.

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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:23:08 AM, and on a whim,
Gerry pounded out on the keyboard:

Terry

I do read all posts in a thread I participate in so I knew who said what.

I would agree that Microsoft should have explained how to use System
Restore better. In the majority of cases before the changes to the third
party security software I suspect it worked in the majority of cases.
However the changes Norton made to their software created problems for
the millions of users using Norton software. Blame Norton not Microsoft.

Do you recommend Norton software to your clients?



It's not how to use SR, it needs to work better and more reliably,
probably self-diagnosing and self-healing, so when it's called on in a
moments notice, it can perform the task.

I stopped recommending NAV back in 2002, although the corporate edition
for servers and networks works well. After everything I have read
recently about NAV, it appears Symantec may have corrected the issues that
drove users away for years. But it's almost too late IMO.

I recommend and install Antivir for individual clients.


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Old March 12th 09, 05:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite enough.

Ant wrote:
Hello.

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance.
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Old March 12th 09, 12:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces? Ran JkDefrag v3.36 overnight...

OK, I will try Defraggler then.


On 3/11/2009 11:32 AM PT, Gerry typed:

Phillip

Do not despair. That is a lot better than it was.

I do not know the answer to your question.

I would try Defraggler. You can defragment single files. Work throgh the
smaller files leaving the largest until the end.

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Old March 12th 09, 03:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Suggest you find the problem instead of blaming Microsoft.
"Phil" wrote in message
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Jose,

I apologize for posting off topic here, but a reply to your post is right
on
target.
I am responsible for maintaining 38 computers here, and SP3 has turned 21
of
them into electric paper weights.

This software was deployed after waiting months to allow it to be fixed.
Well you could have fooled me by all the GOOD reports about it being safe
to
install this poorly written software.

Thanks Microsoft, for all the extra overtime I will now have to put in, in
order to correct your premature publication of a (so called) "Critical"
update.

My advice on SP3 is don't bother installing it, unless you like to gamble
with your companies time and resources.

SP3 may work for some SYSTEMS, but it is it far from prime time ready.



"Jose" wrote:

On Mar 7, 12:09 pm, "Patrick Keenan" wrote:
"Ant" wrote in message

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Hello.

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default
disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly
VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are there any
better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I think
it is
because of the severe fragmentations.

It's the one that comes with XP.

This won't run with less than 15% free space, and if your drive is that
cramped, you should move files elsewhere.

Get another hard drive to store the VMware images. Where I am,
half-terabyte drives are under $100, decent cases around $30, and that
would
end your problem for some time. If this is an office computer, it's
probably a tax-deductible business expense.

HTH
-pk



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Is this your desktop computer your office computer?

Why are you not running SP3? Why are so many that people that post
problems here not even current on software updates that are free and
highly recommended?

You are not current on your MS software. Your IT people, or somebody
you probably know, needs to fix this. I don't know of too many people
that are going to be happy to help you figure out why old software
does not work as you expect it to or believe it should.

Why do you have think you have VMWare images on your office computer?
Are you the VMWare administrator? Do you keep VMWare images on your
personal desktop computer? Do you know what a VMWare image is or do
you just see some big files that don't want to defragment and you
think they should?

VMWare usually runs on a separate and powerful VMWare server and
supplies the resources of an actual physical servers (boxes) as
virtual machines where physical servers are not available or possible
due to cost, environmental or personality factors. is your desktop a
VMWare server?

If you want VMWare to be happy, a VMWare server should be dedicated to
being a VMWare server only - happy with it's virtual machines and not
much else. You should not be touching it or defragmenting it if you
don't know what you are up to.

Do any of these situations apply to your environment?

Do you have a VMWare problem or is your desktop just not performing to
your expectations?




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Old March 12th 09, 03:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite enough.


There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.

I have seen reported issues of Google Groupers who reply in a thread,
and when another newsreader replies to a GG'er, Google folds References
headers and it adds tab characters to them. AFAIK, that should never
happen -- it's a bug with Google.

Then when a "good newsreader" unfolds the headers in a reply, it leaves
extra whitespace in the places where the tabs were. Some people have
called this a bug, but IMO, it's not -- it's just GIGO, with the garbage
initiated at GG.

Then when Google parses the header in a further reply, it chokes on the
whitespace characters (which shouldn't be there) in the unfolded header
and creates an even more invalid header, in which most of the
message-ids are gone and the one that remains has no angled
brackets.

It's only at that last stage that the newsreader can no longer thread
the messages properly.

So this problem only happens when there are more than one post in the
thread already, then a Google Grouper replies, then a newsreader user
replies to the GGer, then the GGer replies back.

Whew!

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Old March 12th 09, 05:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?

"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.


There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.


There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?

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Old March 12th 09, 05:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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"Unknown" wrote in message
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Suggest you find the problem instead of blaming Microsoft.



Can't see the OP, but if he's RESPONSIBLE (?) for many machines, surely he
TESTED it first?

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