HP Deskjet 1010

I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated

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TIA
Archer

Archer wrote:

I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of
.net Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200
entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net Or is
there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if available I
do not mind throwing away this 1010

You get a choice:

(1) Install their entire software suite
(2) Install just their driver.

http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/...157545/drivers
(I assumed you meant Windows XP instead of ZP.)

I bet you installed their entire software suite with all the ancilliary
software besides the driver. Drivers don't use the .NET Framework.
That is required for the ancilliary software that you run as programs.
It's just another library of more enhanced and more numerous functions
than the C Runtimes that came in Windows (like the base version of .Net)
or you have downloaded and installed into Windows via the Windows Update
site. Just like in Linux, you can install libraries that give you more
and greater number of functions. Web sites often called libs of
Javascript functions, like jquery, so they don't have to rewrite the
wheel and can save time.

I went with Canon and they let me choose which of their ancilliary
programs to install. I didn't want all of their fluffware but some of
it is handy. I'm sure HP's full installer gave you choices of what
components to install that are part of their software suite. Their
"More details" link goes to a missing page so I cannot see what programs
they bundle in their suite.

Just go with their basic software package that only has their driver.
Of course, you'll now have to uninstall their software suite (and
driver) and cleanup all the remnant registry entries and files so you
only get the entries and files for their driver-only installation. Then
you'll get just the driver and forego all their extra software whether
it would be useful or not, or if you have 3rd party software to do the
same functions that you prefer to use.

On 2/26/2015 9:25 AM, Archer wrote:
I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated

I've got an HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus that Staples told me to get and
i'm real happy with it.

On 02/26/2015 09:25 AM, Archer wrote:
I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated




Since you already bought the printer and installed it...
if you uninstall it, buy another, then re-install ... all you will be
doing is creating even more work for yourself.

Just keep it and move on.

I installed an HP for someone recently and wasn't
given any choice about the install. I ended up
having to uninstall 100s of MB of crap afterward.
That was OK. The printer ran fine without all of the
unwanted software. Unfortunately it's not always
easy getting rid of .Net if you've installed it. But
if you really don't use any .Net now you should be
able to dump it once you uninstall the HP software
that you don't need.

You could also look on the disk and see if you can
find a way to just install the drivers. That may or may
not be feasible.

HP is among the worst companies in terms of
junky installers. I once had an HP printer that wouldn't
accept my version of IE! I had to spoof the version
in the Registry to get it installed. Another HP I
had included an entire VB6 code project for some
kind of online feedback. It wasn't a VB6 executable
but rather all of the code for the executable. I'm
guessing they've got a young, underpaid night shift
putting their installers together.

On the bright side (for you), the last printer I got
was an Epson. Epson makes one of the highest rated
photo printers. I'm happy with the all-in-one that
I bought. It was only $80. But it has a maddening
design that HP printers don't have. It decides
periodically that I need new ink and refuses to print
until I put in a new cartridge, despite that it's printing
just fine. With my HPs I could continue printing until
the pages looked too light.
The calculation as to when I need ink seems to be
something like a taxi fare -- some combination of time
passed and sheets printed. Since I do very little printing
the Epson sleaze is a waste of my money. But I'm not
sure there's any better option, or any way around it.
Printers now are closed computers in themselves and
one just has to accept the limitations.

On 02/26/2015 09:25 AM, Archer wrote:
I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated



Just add the drivers and not the software. It is not the drivers that
are complicated, but the other garbage. I have users that have insisted
that they "need" and "want" the whole install even after I tell them
they don't "need" it and it can be problematic. If they insist, I give
it to them. When they often come back and ask me to remove stuff, I say
sorry. Back up your stuff and I will image your machine, but you got
what you asked for in spite of what I said. It is amazing how often one
gives advice to a user from "experience" and they think you are just
trying to get out of doing something "extra" for them.

On 02/27/2015 04:49 AM, saneearth wrote:
On 02/26/2015 09:25 AM, Archer wrote:
I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated



Just add the drivers and not the software. It is not the drivers that
are complicated, but the other garbage. I have users that have insisted
that they "need" and "want" the whole install even after I tell them
they don't "need" it and it can be problematic. If they insist, I give
it to them. When they often come back and ask me to remove stuff, I say
sorry. Back up your stuff and I will image your machine, but you got
what you asked for in spite of what I said. It is amazing how often one
gives advice to a user from "experience" and they think you are just
trying to get out of doing something "extra" for them.




Good point.

I do know what the OP is talking about as I had to help a friend install
his HP scanner/ copier and a lot of un-needed stuff came with it.


The HP installer is a self-extracing executable and the OP would need
some software to extract the files within the "exe" package.

I am sure there is plenty of freeware out there. I could easily have
done it from my own Linux machine.



HP is one of the worst offenders out there and certainly not the company
they used to be.


That said: Since the Op already has the printer installed, to change it
would just give him even more work and to me seem pointless.

| It is amazing how often one
| gives advice to a user from "experience" and they think you are just
| trying to get out of doing something "extra" for them.

It can sometimes be helpful. I got my OCR
software free with an HP printer. I once got
a lot of fonts with a scanner. Printers also often
have rudimentary graphic editors that may
be easier to use for beginners than fullscale
editors. Though I've noticed in recent years
that the bundled "good stuff" seems to be
disappearing while the bundled spyware, fluff
and feedback applets seem to be increasing.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:55:53 +0530, Archer
wrote:

I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated

I got the exact driver referred to by VanguardLH - it gives an option
to not install some minor things - but insists on downloading .net
from M$ - around 60 mb.

Having installed with this driver, I tried to save the bare drivers
using a driver backup program. It is just about 19 mb. One problem is
it refuses to copy the mtxr.dll file when I tried to install the
printer in another XP machine. It went ok until it said it cannot copy
the file "mtxr.dll" and does not complete the installation. The file
is very much there in the drivers I saved !

Any further thoughts on this?

--
Thanks to all those who responded and tried to help.

Archer

On 02/27/2015 09:06 AM, Archer wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:55:53 +0530, Archer
wrote:

I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated

I got the exact driver referred to by VanguardLH - it gives an option
to not install some minor things - but insists on downloading .net
from M$ - around 60 mb.

Having installed with this driver, I tried to save the bare drivers
using a driver backup program. It is just about 19 mb. One problem is
it refuses to copy the mtxr.dll file when I tried to install the
printer in another XP machine. It went ok until it said it cannot copy
the file "mtxr.dll" and does not complete the installation. The file
is very much there in the drivers I saved !

Any further thoughts on this?




Check to see if the file mtxr.dll already exists in the destination.

One reason files cannot be copied during an installation is due to the
file already existing.


The only other thing I can think of is a "permissions" problem...but
that seems unlikely since all others are apparently ok

"Archer" wrote in message
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I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net
Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.
Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net
Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

Any help will be greatly appreciated



http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03809078

Basic Troubleshooting
Make sure that the printer is set as your default
printing device:
... Windows 8: Point to or tap the upper-right corner
of the screen to open the Charms bar, click the
Settings icon, click or tap Control Panel, and then
click or tap View devices and printers.
... Windows 7: From the Windows Start menu, click
Devices and Printers.
... Windows Vista: On the Windows taskbar, click
Start, click Control Panel, and then click Printer.


... Windows XP: On the Windows taskbar, click Start,
click Control Panel, and then click Printers and
Faxes.
Make sure that your printer has a check mark in the
circle next to it. If your printer is not selected as the
default printer, right-click the printer icon and choose
Set as Default Printer from the menu.

If you are still unable to print, or the software
installation fails:
1. Remove the CD from the computer's CD/DVD
drive, and then disconnect the USB cable from the
computer.
2. Restart the computer.
3. Insert the printer software CD in the computer's CD/
DVD drive, then follow the on-screen instructions to
install the printer software. Do not connect the USB
cable until you are told to do so.


4. After the installation finishes, restart the computer.


If you are unable to print:
1. Make sure the cable connections are secure.
2. Make sure the printer is powered on. The On button will be lit white.




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In message , Archer
writes:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:55:53 +0530, Archer
wrote:

I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

(I sometimes wonder if _anyone_ in computing realises there are still
people who don't want - or perhaps have access to - a connection, or
only dialup.)

Further it plays havoc with the registry - more than 1200 entries.

Is there a driver that is simple and does not require .net

Or is there a similar HP printer that has simple drivers - if
available I do not mind throwing away this 1010

(As others have said - [a] why HP, [b] there probably are drivers, [c]
if you did change it, you'd probably have similar problems. [I quite
like Brother printers myself.])

Any help will be greatly appreciated

I got the exact driver referred to by VanguardLH - it gives an option
to not install some minor things - but insists on downloading .net
from M$ - around 60 mb.

(! See above comment re links!)

Having installed with this driver, I tried to save the bare drivers
using a driver backup program. It is just about 19 mb. One problem is

Out of curiosity, which driver backup program? Sounds a useful thing to
have. How easy are they to use - I suppose I'm thinking that if I were
to want such a utility, I'd want it to extract and save all the drivers
from a system, so that if I were to build a new system from scratch and
connect all the same peripherals etc., the saved resource would be
sufficient that I wouldn't need to go online, and would be easy to
access from the OS.

it refuses to copy the mtxr.dll file when I tried to install the

What refused, the installer or your driver backup program?

printer in another XP machine. It went ok until it said it cannot copy
the file "mtxr.dll" and does not complete the installation. The file
is very much there in the drivers I saved !

Any further thoughts on this?

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On 02/28/2015 04:42 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Archer
writes:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:55:53 +0530, Archer
wrote:

I bought this printer and installed it in my ZP machine. Pity it
refuses to work without downloading installing 2and 3 versions of .net

(I sometimes wonder if _anyone_ in computing realises there are still
people who don't want - or perhaps have access to - a connection, or
only dialup.)



snip


Yep. The guy I had to help was unable to download the huge driver file
because he has dialup.

I used to have dial up until I realized that between what I paid for it
and the 2nd phone line...I saved money by going to DSL

He wasn't asking about using the printer. The
problem is that the driver install wants to load
a lot of junk onto his system.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:42:31 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote in


(I sometimes wonder if _anyone_ in computing realises there are still
people who don't want - or perhaps have access to - a connection, or
only dialup.)

I live in a moderately rural area in a state where the PUC is owned by
the phone companies. I have no DSL, no cable, no anything except
dial-up (where a dial tone is considered a miracle). The only option
to dial up is cell wireless at about $8/Gb download.

It's expensive, and the phone company wants to keep it that way.
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