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Old March 4th 17, 04:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Archer[_3_]
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Hi Folks

Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement. I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.

I would like to get some suggestion from people who have encountered
similar problems.

I will continue to use Win10 but this USB problem has become an
obsession.

--
TIA for any suggestion
Archer
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Old March 4th 17, 04:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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On 3/4/2017 10:18 AM, Archer wrote:
Hi Folks

Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement. I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.

I would like to get some suggestion from people who have encountered
similar problems.

I will continue to use Win10 but this USB problem has become an
obsession.

It sounds like you've exhausted your options if you can't get
Win7-compatible drivers for that laptop. I've always regarded laptops to
be "closed systems" that are what they are, and may not be something
beyond that due to their proprietary nature.

--
best regards,

Neil
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Old March 4th 17, 04:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gianni Turri
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 20:48:57 +0530, Archer
wrote:

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement. I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.


Lenovo offers drivers and application for Windows 7 for this product,
so it is very strange.

Did you updated the BIOS?

What exact version is your G50-80 ?

G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo)
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20371
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20523
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20642
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80E5
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80KR
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80L0
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80L4
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80R0
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo)
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20516
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20527
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80KR
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80L4

Go there
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en

and search for G50-80 and choose the correct one.
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Old March 4th 17, 05:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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Default Lenovo G50-80 lappie and Win 7

On 3/4/2017 9:18 AM, Archer wrote:
Hi Folks

Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement. I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.

I would like to get some suggestion from people who have encountered
similar problems.

I will continue to use Win10 but this USB problem has become an
obsession.



Lappie!!! Sounds like something Naughty :-)

Rene


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Old March 4th 17, 05:37 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
GlowingBlueMist[_6_]
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On 3/4/2017 9:58 AM, Gianni Turri wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 20:48:57 +0530, Archer
wrote:

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement. I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.


Lenovo offers drivers and application for Windows 7 for this product,
so it is very strange.

Did you updated the BIOS?

What exact version is your G50-80 ?

G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo)
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20371
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20523
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20642
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80E5
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80KR
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80L0
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80L4
G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80R0
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo)
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20516
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 20527
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80KR
G50-80 Touch Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80L4

Go there
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en

and search for G50-80 and choose the correct one.

Give the free version of Driver Booster 4 from IObit a try.
I have had the Lenovo website and their updater program claim my system
had the latest and greatest drivers installed. Still I had random
lockups which pointed to driver problems.

I ran the then Booster 3 program on my laptop and it found numerous
drivers that it claimed were very old which all the Lenovo software
insisted were current. Facing another system reload anyway I let the
program update what ever it found as "old". From there the system
became stable. Prior to updating the drivers using the program the
Microsoft Upgrade software refused to upgrade the laptop from W7 to W8
claiming the laptop was not suitable for upgrade, what ever that meant.
After the Driver Booster program was run on the W7 the Microsoft upgrade
program later allowed the laptop to upgrade to W8 and subsequently to
W10 with none of the prior lockups and all of the built in features of
the laptop still continued to work just fine.

The program does not install anything but itself when you first run it.
It will scan the PC and tell you what it found needing attention, if
anything. From there you can either ignore the results and delete the
program, pick and choose which individual updates you want to install,
or let it install what ever updates it wants. Again, the program does
not change anything with out your permission. What do you have to lose
at this stage?
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Old March 4th 17, 06:29 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
John Doe[_8_]
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Neil wrote:

Archer wrote:


Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10
pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard
disk (put in place of the original one). I had to set the
BIOS to Legacy (instead of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I
tried USB drivers but no improvement. I have also read so
many sites in Google on G50 lappie but could not get the
solution.

I would like to get some suggestion from people who have
encountered similar problems.

I will continue to use Win10 but this USB problem has
become an obsession.

It sounds like you've exhausted your options if you can't
get Win7-compatible drivers for that laptop. I've always
regarded laptops to be "closed systems"


My single experience suggests the same. I always knew they
would be difficult to upgrade, but did not think about how
difficult drivers might be.






--

that are what they are, and may not be something beyond
that due to their proprietary nature.


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Old March 4th 17, 09:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Archer wrote:
Hi Folks

Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement. I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.

I would like to get some suggestion from people who have encountered
similar problems.

I will continue to use Win10 but this USB problem has become an
obsession.


https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/...d/48386/page/2

- Install Windows 7 (or whatever you wish)
- Install the Windows 7 USB 3.0 drivers (in order to enable the USB ports)

So that implies there is a driver option available. Modern Intel,
they decided it would be cool to remove EHCI and just have XHCI
block for USB. Which means you need a driver written by Intel to
make USB3 work on Win7. Other OSes, the driver would be a Microsoft
in-box driver. On Win7, USB3 requires manufacturer support, as
support is not in the OS. And we know in the modern times, just
how much support Intel provides for Win7.

http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/ca/en/pr...0371/downloads

USB3 driver x64

https://download.lenovo.com/consumer...s/45gu01wf.exe

When you run that, it deposits into C:\drivers\Intel USB3 Driver
and includes an on-screen installer. I unpacked it in WINE,
for a look.

*******
* Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller: 3.0.1.41
*
* August 2014
*
* NOTE: This document refers to systems containing the
* following Intel processors/chipsets:
*
* Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 series Chipset Family
* 4th generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processors
* Intel(R) C610 series Chipset Family
* Intel(R) 9 Series Chipset Family
* Intel(R) Pentium(R) Processor or Intel(R)
* Celeron(R) Processor N- & J- Series
* 5th generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processors
* Intel(R) Core(TM) M Processor
*
* Installation Information
*******

So you're "not screwed", in Intel parlance :-)

Paul
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Old March 4th 17, 11:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Archer wrote:

Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement. I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.


Where did you look for the USB drivers to support that hardware under
that OS (Windows 7 - which you didn't mention its bitwidth)?

http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/pr...0-80/downloads

Did you install THEIR drivers after selecting the appropriate target OS?
Be sure you pick the correct bitwidth version. Bitwidth of drivers MUST
match the bitwidth of the OS.
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Old March 5th 17, 02:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 04/03/2017 15:18, Archer wrote:
Hi Folks

Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). I had to set the BIOS to Legacy (instead
of UEFI).

The install went very well but none of the USB work. I tried USB
drivers but no improvement.


They must be the wrong USB drivers, unless you've disabled the USB in
the BIOS.

I have also read so many sites in Google
on G50 lappie but could not get the solution.

I would like to get some suggestion from people who have encountered
similar problems.

I will continue to use Win10 but this USB problem has become an
obsession.


--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.
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Old March 5th 17, 03:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Archer[_3_]
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 16:58:50 +0100, Gianni Turri
wrote:

G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80E5


That is my laptop.

The question I have is why usb ports do not work when I try to boot
using legacy bios?

Under legacy setting win 7 installed ok but there was no usb.
Installing drivers from Lenovo did not solve the problem.

I am just thinking it is a BIOS error or Lenovo did it on purpose to
prevent users trying to install earlier versions of Windows

Thanks to you and all the others who responded.

--
Archer
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Old March 5th 17, 08:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Archer wrote:

Gianni Turri wrote:

G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80E5


That is my laptop.

The question I have is why usb ports do not work when I try to boot
using legacy bios?


The BIOS itself has support only for "legacy" devices: keyboard and
mouse. It has no hardware description or code for every other type of
USB device. That is handled by USB drivers loaded in an OS.

However, you have a laptop. The keyboard and mouse are built-in. You
might have an external keyboard and mouse hooked up to USB ports but the
BIOS in a laptop might not support those. It supports the built-in
legacy devices (built-in keyboard and mouse).

Without an OS loaded and running which includes the USB drivers it
loads, there is no interface between the OS and the hardware.

Under legacy setting win 7 installed ok but there was no usb.


What "legacy" setting in Windows 7 (not BIOS)?

Installing drivers from Lenovo did not solve the problem.


Just to be sure, did you see Brian's reply about making sure the USB
ports are not disabled in the BIOS? Some BIOS/UEFI firmware is dumbed
down while others provide lots of tweaking features, like disabling USB
controllers. However, if you got it new (not used and new to you but a
brand new laptop) then the BIOS/UEFI should have been set to its
defaults which means the USB ports would be enabled. Check the USB
settings in the BIOS/UEFI.

I am just thinking it is a BIOS error or Lenovo did it on purpose to
prevent users trying to install earlier versions of Windows

Thanks to you and all the others who responded.


Since the laptop is new, it should be under a warranty. Have you tried
calling Lenovo to report the problem? They might now of some little
trick that, voila, makes the USB ports work (just an example: some key
combo enables/disables the USB ports).

So far, I've *not seen you describe what means "none of the USB work"*
nor what you are trying to plug into those USB ports. USB drivers are
used to define the USB interface. Drivers are also installed to define
the hardware that is connected to those USB ports. If it is a keyboard
or mouse you are connecting to the USB ports, the included drivers in
Windows should support those devices (check Device Manager for yellow
exclamation marks) - unless they are more than standard keyboard and
mouse devices (extra features, more [programmable] buttons, etc). If
you want to use a USB-attached printer or some other hardware, you still
have to install the drivers for that device. Some [old] devices are
already defined in Windows but often you need to install the device's
driver so the OS knows the protocol to communicate with that hardware
over the USB connection.

When you connect a USB device the first time, the handshaking has the
device send presentation data to the OS. This data gets recorded in the
enumeration keys in the registry. That way the OS can re-identify the
same device when you plug in again later. However, that does not define
how the OS will communicate with the device itself. If the device does
not use the drivers bundled with Windows to provide that interface, you
have to install new drivers for that new device. Did you?
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Old March 5th 17, 08:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Archer wrote:

Got a new Lenovo G50-80 Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

Tried to install Windows 7 Ultimate using a spare hard disk (put in
place of the original one). ...

The install went very well but none of the USB work. ...

I will continue to use Win10 but this USB problem has become an
obsession.


"I will continue to use Win10". That doesn't say the USB ports work
under that OS. Do they? If not, I just looked in that laptop's
hardware maintenance manual at:

https://download.lenovo.com/consumer...series_hmm.pdf

Page 53 talks about removing the common ribbon cable for both USB and
audio connections. Hmm, do you get any audio out of the laptop's
speakers? Try play some audio file and make sure you can hear it okay.
If not, maybe that cable is loose or disconnected. Alas, dismantling
the laptop is not what you want to do with a new laptop since that
probably voids your warranty.
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Old March 5th 17, 10:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gianni Turri
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 20:26:22 +0530, Archer
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 16:58:50 +0100, Gianni Turri
wrote:

G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80E5


That is my laptop.

The question I have is why usb ports do not work when I try to boot
using legacy bios?

Under legacy setting win 7 installed ok but there was no usb.
Installing drivers from Lenovo did not solve the problem.

I am just thinking it is a BIOS error or Lenovo did it on purpose to
prevent users trying to install earlier versions of Windows


I remember a friend's Acer laptop that when I installed Windows 10 on
it in legacy BIOS mode had the touchpad not functioning.

I was installing this way because my Windows 10 install usb flashdrive
was generated in a way it was not visibile at boot in UEFI BIOS mode.

Then I found the proper way to build the Windows 10 usb install flash
drive.

Installing Windows 10 in UEFI BIOS mode made the problem disappearing.

You can try the same with Windows 7.

If you have the ISO for your Windows 7 Ultimate installation then you
can use Rufus to create a bootable USB flashdrive from your ISO.
If you don't have it, is easy to find it online.

http://rufus.akeo.ie/

Download Rufus portable so you don't need to install anything.

If you plan to create a USB flashdrive able to boot on a system with a
UEFI BIOS remember to choose FAT32 as "File system" and "GPT partition
scheme for UEFI" as "Partition scheme and target system type", like
shown on the Rufus home page.

(For legacy style BIOS choose NTFS instead of FAT32 and choose "MBR
partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI".)

Take a look also at the following guide, expecially OPTION ONE:

How to Create a Bootable UEFI USB Flash Drive for Installing Windows
7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1
https://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...e-windows.html

HTH,
Gianni
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Old March 5th 17, 10:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gianni Turri
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:11:28 +0100, Gianni Turri
wrote:

If you have the ISO for your Windows 7 Ultimate installation then you
can use Rufus to create a bootable USB flashdrive from your ISO.
If you don't have it, is easy to find it online.


Download Windows 7 Disc Images (ISO Files) from Microsoft
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7

Make sure you have your Windows product key.

--
HTH,
Gianni
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Old March 5th 17, 10:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Archer wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 16:58:50 +0100, Gianni Turri
wrote:

G50-80 Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 80E5


That is my laptop.

The question I have is why usb ports do not work when I try to boot
using legacy bios?

Under legacy setting win 7 installed ok but there was no usb.
Installing drivers from Lenovo did not solve the problem.

I am just thinking it is a BIOS error or Lenovo did it on purpose to
prevent users trying to install earlier versions of Windows

Thanks to you and all the others who responded.


How does Device Manager (devmgmt.msc) look ?
Run that and check what components are missing
and look for yellow marks.

If the machine has a DVD drive, you should be able
to make and boot from a Linux LiveCD. There you can run
sudo lshw, sudo lsusb, sudo lspci, inxi and other
hardware utilities, to get an inventory. And compare
to the Windows behavior.

Paul
 




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