Problem with Users folder

On 5/3/2017 1:28 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Wolf K wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

jbm wrote:

C:\Users\Xxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp. (Xxxxx is my name.) This
particular folder was hidden which didn't help matters.

It shouldn't be hidden from you. Input %temp% (use the environment
variable) in an address bar (taskbar address bar, Windows Explorer
address bar) to see what's in there.

/AppData is hidden, from Win7 on.

Been a very long time since I altered the defaults of Windows/File
Explorer so it *does* show hidden files. Tis probably one of several
settings that get changed the first time I open Windows/File Explorer
after a fresh install of Windows. I forgot the default might be
otherwise.

If you know the target path, Explorer will go there even if a folder has
the hidden attribute. Enter C:\Users in its address bar. Start
appending your profile (Windows account) name and the address bar
pre-populates with your profile name after a few matching characters.
Same for appending appdata to select that folder. While this is doable,
it's easier and faster to just enter %temp% into an address bar.

After you set "show hidden files" in "folder options".
there are at least two issues: permissions and ownership.

Doing stuff "as administrator" doesn't always help.
****es me off severely.
First thing I do after installing an OS is take ownership
of everything I can on the C: drive.
That fixes most things.
There's an application that gives you a right-click menu
option to take ownership. Don't remember the name. Haven't
played with that in win10.

But, there are things that require "trusted installer".
There's an application called "powerrun" that lets you do
stuff that requires trusted installer.
I haven't tried powerrun before I took ownership of everything,
so not sure if it fixes that too. It does allow you to edit
protected registry keys.

Haven't tried this on recent releases of win10. They keep changing
stuff, so it's hard to justify much customization on something
that will change radically in a few months.

On Wed, 3 May 2017 23:17:33 +0100, jbm wrote:

On 02/05/2017 23:27, jbm wrote:
It took me while to find where the problem lay with this one. Last night
I got a nasty message telling me that space on the C Drive was running
low. The computer has only be running since the middle of March, so I
immediately smelt a rat, and I shouldn't have filled up 117GB that
quick. Extensive searches through that drive found the problem in my own
personal user folder in C:\Users\Xxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp. (Xxxxx is my
name.) This particular folder was hidden which didn't help matters.

Up till now, about the only work this computer has done is to prepare a
large number of audio and video files for transfer to a MyCloud drive.
These files are imported from a network drive into the (DATADRIVE1)
Drive D:\ within Windows 10, where they are renamed and the metadata
completed so the hi-fi and TV downstairs can recognise and play them
correctly across the home network.

What I have just found in the Users folder are 396 .wav and .flac files
totalling 58GB. No wonder I am running out of room on a 117GB drive. If
these files are just a temporary holding block while I am working on
them, when I close the applications that I use (Bulk Rename Utility,
mp3tag, Audio Editor Deluxe and Switch Sound File Converter), these
files should surely be deleted.

What is going on? Is there some switch that needs to be activated to
delete these files on exit? I have run "Disc Cleanup" which did not find
or remove them. I don't really want the hassle of going into this folder
every time to delete these files. How can it be done automatically.

Thanks in anticipation

jim



Right. First off, a big thank you to all who imparted their knowledge in
answer to my original questions. I am really grateful.

Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive. Especially since it is obviously not
possible to increase the partition size without replacing the whole
drive. Which would then cause even more problems because the recovery
partition is on the same drive, and I do not have Win10 installation
discs. My old Win7 machine, also an HP, was built with a 600GB primary
drive, which after almost 8 years still only has about 150BG in use, and
has never undergone a deep spring clean since the day it was born.

Thirdly, I have always been a bit wary of using automatic clean-up
applications, mainly because I feel they may start "hoovering under the
carpet" and remove something important that I had forgotten about.
Anyway, after some degree of deep thought, and thanks to a new feature
within Win10, which wasn't in Win7, I have found a satisfactory solution
to the whole problem. I have placed a short cut to the Temp folder in
the Quick Access section of File Manager, so just one click puts me in
there, and I can delete what I want manually. At least the Quick Access
does away with scrolling through a multitude of folders to get to the
one I want.

Fourthly, the trouble I had finding the cause of the disc usage was
partly my fault. Like VanguardLH, I always used to change the hidden
files feature in File Manager to show everything. And like him, it is so
long since I had to do that I had forgotten all about it. When I looked
at the properties of the Users folders from the folder tree, it showed
60GB in use. Because the AppData file was hidden, checking the
properties from the file side of Manager, it showed just 300MB in use.
One hell of a difference, which took a lot of head scratching to
explain. Once AppData was visible, the two figures were the virtually
the same.

I still find it rather strange that using the same program (Switch) with
the same files on the Win7 machine does not cause this problem. I had a
quick look around earlier, and can not find one instance of any wav or
FLAC files resident on the old computer where they shouldn't be.

Thanks one and all

Sounds like you have everything sorted. A Google search shows
the C drive is an SSD which should make things quicker.
I was wondering id it would be possible to ignore the SSD and
reinstall windows entirely on the 2GB hard drive.
Just a thought.



jim

mike wrote:

After you set "show hidden files" in "folder options".
there are at least two issues: permissions and ownership.

Not for the temp folder under the profile for the Windows account under
which you login. Go look at its permissions and ownership. Then move
up to its parent folder, AppData, and look at its permissions and
ownership.

Doing stuff "as administrator" doesn't always help.

The Administrators group (and the accounts assigned to that security
group) does NOT have all the permissions of the SYSTEM account. Never
has. SYSTEM is god. Administrators are, well, they're just higher
level users. SYSTEM has more privileges than any account assigned to
the Administrators security group (which includes the Administrator
account and your own if you put it in the Administrators security
group).

I'm not sure when the fallacy began when users thought belonging to the
Administrators security group made them God. Maybe it was like that
under the 9x-based versions of Windows (I don't have a Win9x/ME box to
check on the privileges allocated to the Administrators group and the
SYSTEM account). The Home Edition of Win7 that I have at home won't
even let me go look at the privileges for each security group. Or maybe
*NIX users on Windows thought Administrator (account) or Administrators
(security group) were the same as root. There are portions of the
registry that you cannot see using regedit.exe even when logged in under
the Administrators group.

But, there are things that require "trusted installer". There's an
application called "powerrun" that lets you do stuff that requires
trusted installer. I haven't tried powerrun before I took ownership
of everything, so not sure if it fixes that too. It does allow you to
edit protected registry keys.

Actually you don't need 3rd party tools to take ownership of a file or
[optionally recursively] a folder. The security tools included in
Windows will do that but they are command-line tools and, to some, a bit
clumsy to use. For just taking ownership on a folder and recursively on
all its children (files and subfolders), I use a registry edit that adds
an entry to the context menu for folder objects. See:

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...-shortcut.html

If you have admin privileges and the takeown.exe and icacls.exe tools
are available in Windows, this lets you right-click on a folder and just
click on Take Ownership. A command shell loads to run the commands
recorded for the shell extension. If you don't want to use the shell
extension, in an admin-level command shell (cmd.exe), run the following
for more information about those security tools:

takeown /? (/r switch is for recursion)
icacls /? (/t switch is for recursion)

The problem that I've run into when changing permissions in the registry
is the options for recursion won't work when you don't have privileges
on the children. I just had to eradicate some USB enumeration keys in
the registry. Because of some driver changes, I ended up seeing a USB
device listed twice in the AutoPlay config and attaching the USB device
showed 2 popup dialogs asking me what to do with the USB device. I
could not recurse ownership on the registry key, its subkeys, and so on.
I had to progressively change ownership on the registry key, add my
account to have full privs, refresh, the key's node would change to a
chevron meaning something new appeared underneath, and keep redoing
those steps for each subkey. It is a pain just because recursion
doesn't always work there.

Haven't tried this on recent releases of win10. They keep changing
stuff, so it's hard to justify much customization on something that
will change radically in a few months.

The same reason why I don't use Classic Shell to modify the desktop and
File Explorer GUIs. If I don't get accustomed to the new GUIs, I will
be clumsy when trying to help someone else. Had to learn that ribbon UI
in the Office products, too, although there is an add-on to regress to a
more classic UI.

jbm wrote:

I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small drive as
their main C:\ drive.

You sure they did not provide the option to get a bigger SSD drive
(obviously at a much inflated price)?

You didn't mention the model or when you purchased. While SSD pricing
has come down for cost per byte, they are still far more expensive than
HDDs. See:

https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/internal-hard-drive/

Notice the difference for the pricing scale (y axis) between SSDs and
HDDs. I'm sure if you were willing to pay a huge price premium that
they'd put in whatever size SSD was then available at the time of
manufacture, or you could pay a computer shop to do that, or tempt the
neighborhood teen guru with brownies. Per their charts, you can
purchase a 1 TB HDD (15 times the capacity) for what a 64 GB SDD costs.

I went to dell.com to spec out one of their prebuilts. I went with an
XPS 27 all-in-one. The only size SSD they offered was 512 GB. They
won't cover every possible component to put into a prebuilt. They sell
what sells and maintains an acceptable profit margin. Specialty configs
are handled elsewhere. Moving from a config with a 2 TB HDD to a 512 GB
(0.5 TB) SDD cost an additional $250. For much a much faster drive but
at one-fourth of the capacity, you would get to pay another $250.

On Wed, 3 May 2017 23:17:33 +0100, jbm wrote:

Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive. Especially since it is obviously not
possible to increase the partition size without replacing the whole
drive. Which would then cause even more problems because the recovery
partition is on the same drive, and I do not have Win10 installation
discs. My old Win7 machine, also an HP, was built with a 600GB primary
drive, which after almost 8 years still only has about 150BG in use, and
has never undergone a deep spring clean since the day it was born.

You can be ****ed at HP, but it appears that you bought what they were
selling, so your money confirmed their configuration choices.

If you want a larger system drive, it's true that you'll have to replace
your current drive, but that is usually very easy to do. You'd purchase
a larger drive, temporarily connect it to the laptop, clone the existing
drive, then shut down and swap the drives. Those are the high level
steps to accomplish this relatively simple task. There will be
additional details, of course.

Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-05-03 18:17, jbm wrote:
[...]
Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive.
[...]

Well, they were trying to meet a price point....


These are the specs on the HP Pavilion 550-103na Desktop PC.

Hard drive: 2 TB HDD & 128 GB SSD

I don't think that's a particular egregious setup.

If having C: on an SSD is cramping your style,
you can always move the contents of the 128GB SSD
into the 2TB HDD, resize the C: partition, done.

The 128GB SSD is likely to have the recovery partition
and the like, while the 2TB hard drive should have
hardly any valuable OEM info at all on it.

So you should be able to whip up a 1800GB C:
partition, if you want one. I think I could
do that in one shot, with Macrium Reflect Free.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

By placing C: on the hard drive, it won't run as
fast, but it will "suit your lifestyle" better
(if you want to "store it all" on C: ). It can be
fixed.

Paul

On 04/05/2017 02:37, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 23:17:33 +0100, jbm wrote:

Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive. Especially since it is obviously not
possible to increase the partition size without replacing the whole
drive. Which would then cause even more problems because the recovery
partition is on the same drive, and I do not have Win10 installation
discs. My old Win7 machine, also an HP, was built with a 600GB primary
drive, which after almost 8 years still only has about 150BG in use, and
has never undergone a deep spring clean since the day it was born.

You can be ****ed at HP, but it appears that you bought what they were
selling, so your money confirmed their configuration choices.

If you want a larger system drive, it's true that you'll have to replace
your current drive, but that is usually very easy to do. You'd purchase
a larger drive, temporarily connect it to the laptop, clone the existing
drive, then shut down and swap the drives. Those are the high level
steps to accomplish this relatively simple task. There will be
additional details, of course.



Publicity blurb on the computer, an HP 550-103na states:
HARD DRIVE: 2TB & 128GB SSD.

Lower down the blurb:
STORAGE: 2TB HDD 5400rpm; 128GB SSD.

No mention whatsoever that the OS was on the smaller drive!!! And the
first drive mentioned in both cases is the 2TB, so I foolishly assumed .
.. . . .

I may well go back to the retailer and ask how much it would cost to put
a decent size drive (at least 1TB) in place of the 128GB, and to
completely reinstall the OS, without it affecting the warranty. At least
so far there is no personal information on that machine, so there's
nothing important I might lose.

However, one thing has occurred to me. With such a small primary drive,
is it HP's intention that user's own programs should be installed on the
2TB DATA drive? If so, how would that work, both with the installation
and running and management of the programs? That way, the C:\ drive only
has deal with all the pre-installed stuff.

jim

On 04/05/2017 14:18, Paul wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-05-03 18:17, jbm wrote:
[...]
Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive.
[...]

Well, they were trying to meet a price point....


These are the specs on the HP Pavilion 550-103na Desktop PC.

Hard drive: 2 TB HDD & 128 GB SSD

I don't think that's a particular egregious setup.

If having C: on an SSD is cramping your style,
you can always move the contents of the 128GB SSD
into the 2TB HDD, resize the C: partition, done.

The 128GB SSD is likely to have the recovery partition
and the like, while the 2TB hard drive should have
hardly any valuable OEM info at all on it.

So you should be able to whip up a 1800GB C:
partition, if you want one. I think I could
do that in one shot, with Macrium Reflect Free.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

By placing C: on the hard drive, it won't run as
fast, but it will "suit your lifestyle" better
(if you want to "store it all" on C: ). It can be
fixed.

Paul


On delivery, the 2TB D:\ drive was empty apart from its label
DATADRIVE1. Just one partition and no stored folders or files.

The 128GB drive contained the OS (Win10) on C:\, a SYSTEM drive Z:\, and
an unspecified RECOVERY drive; i.e. 3 separate partitions.

Transferring the OS C:\ drive onto the 2TB drive sounds like a good
idea. I'll have to look into that. What are the major pitfalls? There
have got to be some!!! The big question is how the hell do you create a
new C:\ drive when one already exists???

God. I loved Windows XP!

jim

jbm wrote:
On 04/05/2017 14:18, Paul wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-05-03 18:17, jbm wrote:
[...]
Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive.
[...]

Well, they were trying to meet a price point....


These are the specs on the HP Pavilion 550-103na Desktop PC.

Hard drive: 2 TB HDD & 128 GB SSD

I don't think that's a particular egregious setup.

If having C: on an SSD is cramping your style,
you can always move the contents of the 128GB SSD
into the 2TB HDD, resize the C: partition, done.

The 128GB SSD is likely to have the recovery partition
and the like, while the 2TB hard drive should have
hardly any valuable OEM info at all on it.

So you should be able to whip up a 1800GB C:
partition, if you want one. I think I could
do that in one shot, with Macrium Reflect Free.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

By placing C: on the hard drive, it won't run as
fast, but it will "suit your lifestyle" better
(if you want to "store it all" on C: ). It can be
fixed.

Paul


On delivery, the 2TB D:\ drive was empty apart from its label
DATADRIVE1. Just one partition and no stored folders or files.

The 128GB drive contained the OS (Win10) on C:\, a SYSTEM drive Z:\, and
an unspecified RECOVERY drive; i.e. 3 separate partitions.

Transferring the OS C:\ drive onto the 2TB drive sounds like a good
idea. I'll have to look into that. What are the major pitfalls? There
have got to be some!!! The big question is how the hell do you create a
new C:\ drive when one already exists???

God. I loved Windows XP!

jim


The thing is, the 5400 RPM drive, is going to seem a *lot*
slower to you as an OS drive. Yes, it would have great
capacity, but Win10 (maintenance activity) will suck the life out of it.

I would be wasting your time by suggesting you clone to the
5400 RPM drive.

*******

If you're a rich guy, you could upgrade the drive to a different
SSD. But, you'll need to verify it's a SATAIII drive, and not
an NVMe. The specs I looked at, made it seem the drive is a SATA
drive, but they don't use that term (or NVMe) in the advert.

These are two examples of replacement SATA III drives.

http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_ssd_850_pro_review

SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 512GB SATAIII 3D VNAND SSD MZ-7KE512BW $260
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820147361

SAMSUNG 850 PRO 2.5" 256GB SATAIII 3D VNAND SSD MZ-7KE256BW $163
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820147360

So if those prices don't bother you, you could always
bring the SSD drive into the computer store, order the
new drive, and have the staff clone it over for you.
To clone 60GB of existing data, should take seven or
eight minutes (as Windows and the tools are a bottleneck
to the operation).

I cloned my old laptop drive (mechanical) to a new SSD,
using two SATA cables in my desktop computer. The drive
I got, was the 256GB version of the one above. I'd bought
a cheaper SSD previously, but returned it the next day
for a refund, because while it was fully functional,
the behavior of it was "too weird for words". The above
drive seems to be OK.

If you don't have the money to waste, simply continue
to use the existing setup. And clean out your %temp%
once in a while :-)

Paul

On 02/05/2017 23:27, jbm wrote:
It took me while to find where the problem lay with this one. Last night
I got a nasty message telling me that space on the C Drive was running
low. The computer has only be running since the middle of March, so I
immediately smelt a rat, and I shouldn't have filled up 117GB that
quick. Extensive searches through that drive found the problem in my own
personal user folder in C:\Users\Xxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp. (Xxxxx is my
name.) This particular folder was hidden which didn't help matters.

Up till now, about the only work this computer has done is to prepare a
large number of audio and video files for transfer to a MyCloud drive.
These files are imported from a network drive into the (DATADRIVE1)
Drive D:\ within Windows 10, where they are renamed and the metadata
completed so the hi-fi and TV downstairs can recognise and play them
correctly across the home network.

What I have just found in the Users folder are 396 .wav and .flac files
totalling 58GB. No wonder I am running out of room on a 117GB drive. If
these files are just a temporary holding block while I am working on
them, when I close the applications that I use (Bulk Rename Utility,
mp3tag, Audio Editor Deluxe and Switch Sound File Converter), these
files should surely be deleted.

What is going on? Is there some switch that needs to be activated to
delete these files on exit? I have run "Disc Cleanup" which did not find
or remove them. I don't really want the hassle of going into this folder
every time to delete these files. How can it be done automatically.

Thanks in anticipation

jim


Right. I am going to try and keep this as light hearted as I can, and to
be honest, if no one replies to it, I couldn't really care less.

Let's get one thing straight here. Since I posted my original query,
apart from clearing out the AppData\Temp folder, I have made no changes
to the computer whatsoever. The programs I am using are the same as I
originally installed, with no updates coming in. Nor have I made any
changes to any settings in anything, including Windows.

Last night, I ran half a dozen FLAC files through the Switch Sound File
Converter into wav files. I then hit another problem, knocked it all on
the head, went into the troublesome folder and deleted a dozen files, 6
FLAC and 6 wav. Turned the computer off and went to bed.

Tonight, I have just run about a hundred FLAC files successfully,
transferred the resulting wav file to the Cloud drive, and went into the
AppData\Temp folder to delete the rubbish.

Except there's no rubbish in there!!!!!!!

Work that one out.

Now, where did I put my Windows XP installation disks?

jim

On 05/05/2017 02:50, jbm wrote:

Now, where did I put my Windows XP installation disks?


WTF HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH WINDOWS 10?

ARE YOU JUST WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME HERE OR ARE YOU ON SOME DRUGS THAT
IS MAKING YOU PARANOID ABOUT EVERYTHING.

CAN YOU JUST LEAVE YOUR COMPUTER AWAY FOR A FEW WEEKS UNTIL YOU ARE
MENTALLY STABLE.







--
With over 500 million devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

jbm wrote:
On 02/05/2017 23:27, jbm wrote:
It took me while to find where the problem lay with this one. Last night
I got a nasty message telling me that space on the C Drive was running
low. The computer has only be running since the middle of March, so I
immediately smelt a rat, and I shouldn't have filled up 117GB that
quick. Extensive searches through that drive found the problem in my own
personal user folder in C:\Users\Xxxxx\AppData\Local\Temp. (Xxxxx is my
name.) This particular folder was hidden which didn't help matters.

Up till now, about the only work this computer has done is to prepare a
large number of audio and video files for transfer to a MyCloud drive.
These files are imported from a network drive into the (DATADRIVE1)
Drive D:\ within Windows 10, where they are renamed and the metadata
completed so the hi-fi and TV downstairs can recognise and play them
correctly across the home network.

What I have just found in the Users folder are 396 .wav and .flac files
totalling 58GB. No wonder I am running out of room on a 117GB drive. If
these files are just a temporary holding block while I am working on
them, when I close the applications that I use (Bulk Rename Utility,
mp3tag, Audio Editor Deluxe and Switch Sound File Converter), these
files should surely be deleted.

What is going on? Is there some switch that needs to be activated to
delete these files on exit? I have run "Disc Cleanup" which did not find
or remove them. I don't really want the hassle of going into this folder
every time to delete these files. How can it be done automatically.

Thanks in anticipation

jim


Right. I am going to try and keep this as light hearted as I can, and to
be honest, if no one replies to it, I couldn't really care less.

Let's get one thing straight here. Since I posted my original query,
apart from clearing out the AppData\Temp folder, I have made no changes
to the computer whatsoever. The programs I am using are the same as I
originally installed, with no updates coming in. Nor have I made any
changes to any settings in anything, including Windows.

Last night, I ran half a dozen FLAC files through the Switch Sound File
Converter into wav files. I then hit another problem, knocked it all on
the head, went into the troublesome folder and deleted a dozen files, 6
FLAC and 6 wav. Turned the computer off and went to bed.

Tonight, I have just run about a hundred FLAC files successfully,
transferred the resulting wav file to the Cloud drive, and went into the
AppData\Temp folder to delete the rubbish.

Except there's no rubbish in there!!!!!!!

Work that one out.

Now, where did I put my Windows XP installation disks?

jim

It's possible for an AV program to be "scanning"
freshly created files in %temp%. The AV program
can be alerted to new stuff, by reading the USN Journal
of NTFS. The Indexer does the same thing, although
the Search Indexer might not lock the files.

An AV program can use a file lock if it wants. This
may prevent the originating program from deleting the
file at some point. The originating program may make
one attempt to delete its creation, and then give up
and move on. And there's really no need to alert
the user, that this happened.

There's a lot going on, under the hood.

An AV could do this on WinXP, too.

Paul

On Thu, 4 May 2017 23:12:43 +0100, jbm wrote:

On 04/05/2017 02:37, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 23:17:33 +0100, jbm wrote:

Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive. Especially since it is obviously not
possible to increase the partition size without replacing the whole
drive. Which would then cause even more problems because the recovery
partition is on the same drive, and I do not have Win10 installation
discs. My old Win7 machine, also an HP, was built with a 600GB primary
drive, which after almost 8 years still only has about 150BG in use, and
has never undergone a deep spring clean since the day it was born.

You can be ****ed at HP, but it appears that you bought what they were
selling, so your money confirmed their configuration choices.

If you want a larger system drive, it's true that you'll have to replace
your current drive, but that is usually very easy to do. You'd purchase
a larger drive, temporarily connect it to the laptop, clone the existing
drive, then shut down and swap the drives. Those are the high level
steps to accomplish this relatively simple task. There will be
additional details, of course.



Publicity blurb on the computer, an HP 550-103na states:
HARD DRIVE: 2TB & 128GB SSD.

Lower down the blurb:
STORAGE: 2TB HDD 5400rpm; 128GB SSD.

No mention whatsoever that the OS was on the smaller drive!!! And the
first drive mentioned in both cases is the 2TB, so I foolishly assumed .
. . . .

To me, it's obvious that the SSD would be the system drive because the
opposite wouldn't make any sense, but I acknowledge that not everyone
would see it that way.

I agree that 128GB is way too small for a system drive, but if you
otherwise like the computer, I'd bite the bullet and simply upgrade it
to a larger SSD unit. You could use the little 128GB as a third internal
drive, or use an adapter to turn it into an external drive.

On Thu, 4 May 2017 23:27:53 +0100, jbm wrote:

On 04/05/2017 14:18, Paul wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-05-03 18:17, jbm wrote:
[...]
Secondly, I am a bit ****ed off with HP for installing such a small
drive as their main C:\ drive.
[...]

Well, they were trying to meet a price point....


These are the specs on the HP Pavilion 550-103na Desktop PC.

Hard drive: 2 TB HDD & 128 GB SSD

I don't think that's a particular egregious setup.

If having C: on an SSD is cramping your style,
you can always move the contents of the 128GB SSD
into the 2TB HDD, resize the C: partition, done.

The 128GB SSD is likely to have the recovery partition
and the like, while the 2TB hard drive should have
hardly any valuable OEM info at all on it.

So you should be able to whip up a 1800GB C:
partition, if you want one. I think I could
do that in one shot, with Macrium Reflect Free.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp

By placing C: on the hard drive, it won't run as
fast, but it will "suit your lifestyle" better
(if you want to "store it all" on C: ). It can be
fixed.

Paul


On delivery, the 2TB D:\ drive was empty apart from its label
DATADRIVE1. Just one partition and no stored folders or files.

The 128GB drive contained the OS (Win10) on C:\, a SYSTEM drive Z:\, and
an unspecified RECOVERY drive; i.e. 3 separate partitions.

Transferring the OS C:\ drive onto the 2TB drive sounds like a good
idea. I'll have to look into that. What are the major pitfalls? There
have got to be some!!! The big question is how the hell do you create a
new C:\ drive when one already exists???

One way that's frequently recommended around here, which I agree with,
is to use Macrium Reflect Free to clone C: to D:. Do the cloning
operation, then shut down. Disconnect the SSD and boot from the 2TB
drive. Shut down, reconnect the SSD, boot from the 2TB drive, format the
SSD and use it for whatever you like. Disk performance will take a hit
by going from SSD to spinning drive, but before too long you'll stop
noticing it.

God. I loved Windows XP!

The OS doesn't matter in this case.

On 04 May 2017, jbm wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Tonight, I have just run about a hundred FLAC files successfully,
transferred the resulting wav file to the Cloud drive, and went
into the AppData\Temp folder to delete the rubbish.

Except there's no rubbish in there!!!!!!!

Work that one out.

Now, where did I put my Windows XP installation disks?

I don't see any problem here. What are you complaining about?