Simple Problem with two computers

Try to setup a username/password that is the same on both
systems. That should eliminate any access issues.
-----Original Message-----
2 pc's one XP other XP Pro. Crossover cable. Computers
see each other on the net. Same workgroup, File sharing
setup ok. PC A can access files on PC B, but PC B cannot
access files on PC A. However PC A can tranfer shared
files to PC B. Any attempt by PC B to browse PC A gives
an "ACCESS Denied" message and a "see admin..."
Firewalls turned off. NetBios over tcp/ip enabled. PC A
simply will not allow access by other computers??? What
to do??
Mike
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 11:11:03 -0700, Mike M m wrote:

2 pc's one XP other XP Pro. Crossover cable. Computers see each other on the net. Same workgroup, File sharing setup ok. PC A can access files on PC B, but PC B cannot access files on PC A. However PC A can tranfer shared files to PC B. Any attempt
by PC B to browse PC A gives an "ACCESS Denied" message and a "see admin..." Firewalls turned off. NetBios over tcp/ip enabled. PC A simply will not allow access by other computers??? What to do??
Mike

Mike,

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and XP Pro together on the LAN, you should enable SFS.

If SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

If you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure that the Guest
account is enabled, and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers.
If "Classic", setup and use a common account with identical, non-blank, password
on all computers.

For XP Home, or for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, with identical, non-blank passwords, on each computer.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If so,
you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and
UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the
Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

On Fri, 21 May 2004 11:11:03 -0700, Mike M m wrote:

2 pc's one XP other XP Pro. Crossover cable. Computers see each other on the net. Same workgroup, File sharing setup ok. PC A can access files on PC B, but PC B cannot access files on PC A. However PC A can tranfer shared files to PC B. Any attempt
by PC B to browse PC A gives an "ACCESS Denied" message and a "see admin..." Firewalls turned off. NetBios over tcp/ip enabled. PC A simply will not allow access by other computers??? What to do??
Mike

Mike,

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and XP Pro together on the LAN, you should enable SFS.

If SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

If you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure that the Guest
account is enabled, and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers.
If "Classic", setup and use a common account with identical, non-blank, password
on all computers.

For XP Home, or for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, with identical, non-blank passwords, on each computer.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If so,
you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and
UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the
Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

On Fri, 21 May 2004 11:11:03 -0700, Mike M m wrote:

2 pc's one XP other XP Pro. Crossover cable. Computers see each other on the net. Same workgroup, File sharing setup ok. PC A can access files on PC B, but PC B cannot access files on PC A. However PC A can tranfer shared files to PC B. Any attempt
by PC B to browse PC A gives an "ACCESS Denied" message and a "see admin..." Firewalls turned off. NetBios over tcp/ip enabled. PC A simply will not allow access by other computers??? What to do??
Mike

Mike,

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and XP Pro together on the LAN, you should enable SFS.

If SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

If you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure that the Guest
account is enabled, and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers.
If "Classic", setup and use a common account with identical, non-blank, password
on all computers.

For XP Home, or for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, with identical, non-blank passwords, on each computer.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If so,
you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and
UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the
Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

On Fri, 21 May 2004 11:11:03 -0700, Mike M m wrote:

2 pc's one XP other XP Pro. Crossover cable. Computers see each other on the net. Same workgroup, File sharing setup ok. PC A can access files on PC B, but PC B cannot access files on PC A. However PC A can tranfer shared files to PC B. Any attempt
by PC B to browse PC A gives an "ACCESS Denied" message and a "see admin..." Firewalls turned off. NetBios over tcp/ip enabled. PC A simply will not allow access by other computers??? What to do??
Mike

Mike,

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Home
and XP Pro together on the LAN, you should enable SFS.

If SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

If you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure that the Guest
account is enabled, and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers.
If "Classic", setup and use a common account with identical, non-blank, password
on all computers.

For XP Home, or for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, with identical, non-blank passwords, on each computer.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If so,
you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and
UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the
Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:46:02 -0700, Mike M *email_address_deleted* wrote:

Guest accounts set up. Simple file sharing is set on XP Pro however I am unable to find an option to set it up for the XP. There is no firewall in the XP which is where the problem is. The xp Pro see's the xp but when trying to browse it there is a long
delay then the system says that the xp is "Inaccessable" . If I remove the problem xp(a laptop) and network the XP pro to another machine everything works fine. I I tried to set up Local security policy in the xp using the mmc console but there was no r
eference to local security policy only ip security policy. I tried to install xp service pack 1 but when I did the computer would not show any icons, the taskbar or the start menu on the screen unless I went into safe mode. The background screen did show
up and if I did an alt-cntr-del the task manager would come up but I never could get the normal screen. I removed the sp1 and everything seemed to work fine except the networking. Why though can I move files from the xp to the
other computer as long as I do it from the xp. Do I need to reload Windows "what a pain"
Mike

Mike,

Are the Guest accounts setup on both computers with identical, non-blank
passwords?

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Identify operating system with each ipconfig listing.

From each the problem computer, and from the XP Pro working computer, check
shares visibility (use actual name / address of the problem computer):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ProblemComputerByName
2) \\ProblemComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / error displayed in each test (4 tests total).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:46:02 -0700, Mike M *email_address_deleted* wrote:

Guest accounts set up. Simple file sharing is set on XP Pro however I am unable to find an option to set it up for the XP. There is no firewall in the XP which is where the problem is. The xp Pro see's the xp but when trying to browse it there is a long
delay then the system says that the xp is "Inaccessable" . If I remove the problem xp(a laptop) and network the XP pro to another machine everything works fine. I I tried to set up Local security policy in the xp using the mmc console but there was no r
eference to local security policy only ip security policy. I tried to install xp service pack 1 but when I did the computer would not show any icons, the taskbar or the start menu on the screen unless I went into safe mode. The background screen did show
up and if I did an alt-cntr-del the task manager would come up but I never could get the normal screen. I removed the sp1 and everything seemed to work fine except the networking. Why though can I move files from the xp to the
other computer as long as I do it from the xp. Do I need to reload Windows "what a pain"
Mike

Mike,

Are the Guest accounts setup on both computers with identical, non-blank
passwords?

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Identify operating system with each ipconfig listing.

From each the problem computer, and from the XP Pro working computer, check
shares visibility (use actual name / address of the problem computer):
Start - Run then:
1) \\ProblemComputerByName
2) \\ProblemComputerByIPAddress
Report visibility of shares / error displayed in each test (4 tests total).

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

Chuck
I'm afraid I may have put up my last post as new instead of reply. It was a lot of cutting and pasting of Ipconfig/all stuff. You can get it buy looking at post under Mike M. I have been reading a lot of articles many recommened by you to others and hav
e run many of these tests. It looks like my problem is not related to ip addresses etc. but merely to persmission related issues. I may well be wrong or I still wouldn't be appealing for your help!! I think the XP pro is ok but the offending XP home mac
hine is set up wrong. You speak of identical non blank passwords. The XP home machine doesn't even offer an opportunity to set up a password for the "guest" only for the "admin" who is me. The admin password is the same as in the XP Pro. The guest acco
unts are turned on in both machines. The node type in the XP problem machine is hybrid the XP pro machine is "mixed" when I do the four tests you asked for: from the keyboard of the XP Home laptop I enter //problemcomputerbyname I get the names of the
shared folders and printers, when I do //problemcompterbyip, I get exactly the same result. From the keyboard of the XP pro when I enter //Problem... either by name or by ip I get a message " Access denied..you may not have permission to use this network
resource..

On Wed, 26 May 2004 08:46:01 -0700, Mike M *email_address_deleted* wrote:

Chuck
I'm afraid I may have put up my last post as new instead of reply. It was a lot of cutting and pasting of Ipconfig/all stuff. You can get it buy looking at post under Mike M. I have been reading a lot of articles many recommened by you to others and ha
ve run many of these tests. It looks like my problem is not related to ip addresses etc. but merely to persmission related issues. I may well be wrong or I still wouldn't be appealing for your help!! I think the XP pro is ok but the offending XP home ma
chine is set up wrong. You speak of identical non blank passwords. The XP home machine doesn't even offer an opportunity to set up a password for the "guest" only for the "admin" who is me. The admin password is the same as in the XP Pro. The guest acc
ounts are turned on in both machines. The node type in the XP problem machine is hybrid the XP pro machine is "mixed" when I do the four tests you asked for: from the keyboard of the XP Home laptop I enter
//problemcomputerbyname I get the names of the shared folders and printers, when I do //problemcompterbyip, I get exactly the same result. From the keyboard of the XP pro when I enter //Problem... either by name or by ip I get a message " Access denied.
.you may not have permission to use this network resource..

Mike,

Your last post posted fine in this thread, and I examined the ipconfig lists.

You're on the right track. Generally, file sharing problems are caused by
physical / network connectivity, browser / firewall, or authentication /
permissions, problems. We've sort of ruled out the first two possibilities, so
that leaves permissions.

Here's the link to download the definitive article by Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en.

The answer is in there. I need to experiment with XP Home some more. Keep in
touch.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

Chuck
Thanks for your support. I want to mention the other problem with this XP home laptop. I would like to get sp1 and rollup installed so that at least I was working with the latest version, However I can't get sp1 installed and working. I have the CD and
it installs ok but when it boots back up the "desktop" is missing the background screen is there but no icons, toolbar, or start button. If I do a alt/ctrl/del up comes the task manager. If I boot in safe mode it all works fine. Its like the system forg
ot to load the process that displays the desktop. Any Ideas.
Mike

On Wed, 26 May 2004 13:21:02 -0700, Mike M m wrote:

Chuck
Thanks for your support. I want to mention the other problem with this XP home laptop. I would like to get sp1 and rollup installed so that at least I was working with the latest version, However I can't get sp1 installed and working. I have the CD and
it installs ok but when it boots back up the "desktop" is missing the background screen is there but no icons, toolbar, or start button. If I do a alt/ctrl/del up comes the task manager. If I boot in safe mode it all works fine. Its like the system for
got to load the process that displays the desktop. Any Ideas.
Mike

Mike,

Ack. I've read this complaint elsewhere. IIRC, the "solution" was to un
install SP1. See if you can start explorer.exe using Task Manager (File - New
Task). I'll do some other reading.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.