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Old August 14th 19, 02:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

The icon no longer appears among the hidden taskbar icons.
This seems to be the case regardless of what was plugged
into USB - thumb drives, external disks, etc.

There must be an executable associated with that icon.
What's its name? I could just execute it directly or place
it as an icon on the desktop.

Thanks

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Old August 14th 19, 02:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

PS - I Googled this and found quite a few hits. None of
the half dozen solutions I found seems to work.
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Old August 14th 19, 03:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:18:16 -0400, Jason wrote:

PS - I Googled this and found quite a few hits. None of
the half dozen solutions I found seems to work.


Bottom RH screen; click upwards arrow; click the little USB icon;
select the drive to safely remove; done!
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Old August 14th 19, 05:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

Jason wrote:

The icon no longer appears among the hidden taskbar icons.
This seems to be the case regardless of what was plugged
into USB - thumb drives, external disks, etc.

There must be an executable associated with that icon.
What's its name? I could just execute it directly or place
it as an icon on the desktop.


Does "icon no longer appears" mean you saw it in a prior version of
Windows, upgraded to Windows 10, and it is not shown in Windows 10? Or
were using Windows 10 for awhile and seeing the tray icon, but it just
now went poof and disappeared?

To cover the simple case, have you clicked on the chevron at the
left-side of the system tray to see if the "Safely remove" icon is
hidden? Have you tried configuring the taskbar to always show all tray
icons?

How about restarting Windows/File Explorer (killing and reloading
explorer.exe) which also the desktop manager, or logging out and back
in? To restart Explorer, use Task Manager's Processes tab, select
Windows Explorer, and click restart. Note that when you restart File
Explorer, some tray icons will disappear in that Windows session.
That's because the program defines the tray icon when it loads, but
restarting Explorer doesn't force a reload of the startup programs.
Most programs don't test the state of their tray icons to restore them
when absent. I'm not even sure Windows provides an API to check on the
visible state of a program's tray icon. Logging out and back in will
obviously reload a fresh instance of Explorer along with all startup
programs defining their tray icons.

Are you logged in under an admin-level or user-level Windows account?

Is the Plug and Play service in the running state? Run services.msc,
scroll down to the Plug and Play service and check its status. If it is
not running, see if you can right-click on it and select Start. That
dialog doesn't automatically refresh, so wait a couple minutes and hit
the F5 key to check if the service is in the Running state. For me,
that service is configured for Manual startup mode. That means it
doesn't start until a caller process requests use of that service. I've
seen some users suggest changing it to Automatic startup mode (it starts
when Windows starts), but that's a workaround for something that should
be calling that service to use it. Just try to start it if Stopped, or
stop and start if already Running to check the service will stop and
then start okay.

Have you ran SFC (System File Checker) via "sfc.exe /scannow"? You must
open a command shell with elevated privileges to run SFC. That means
you must be logged under an admin-level Windows account.

Sorry, your other reply of "found suggestions, didn't work" doesn't
detail what you tried, so expect duplicated suggestions.

There is an app for the Safely Remove wizard, but that doesn't create
the tray icon. Hit Win+R (to show the Run dialog), and enter:

rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll

That runs the wizard (a dialog window appears), not restoring a missing
tray icon. What the tray icon affords is a list of connected devices
where you can select which to stop, or open the Devices and Printers
dialog (from the old Control Panel, not in the Settings app) which you
can do by runnint control.exe, select Hardware and Sound, select Devices
and Printers, right-click on your USB device, and select Remove.

For notification tray icons, you need to check with processes are
enabled to show their tray icon. Right-click on the chevron at the left
end of the system tray, or on the clock there, or a blank area of the
taskbar and choose Taskbar Settings from the context menu. Under there,
click on "Select which icons appear on the taskbar. Is "Windows
Explorer: Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" listed? This info was
found in a search that led to:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...emove-hardware

You may need to do step 5 to get the device unbusy. As noted in step 6,
did you ever install the chipset/motherboard drivers? Are you using USB
ports on the mobo, or did you install a USB daughtercard that needs its
own drivers? USB devices may also need drivers. The USB interface is
just the hardware method for a connection. When connected, USB devices
go through some handshaking part of which is to send presentation data
to the OS to identify the type of the USB device. That data gets
recorded in the registry as enumeration data on the device (and that can
get corrupted, but that's a more technical repair). You may have to
[re]install the driver for the USB device for its proper identification.
With the device connected, go into Device Manager (devmgmt.msc) and show
hidden devices (View - Show hidden devices). Normally only the
currently connected devices are listed, but showing hidden devices
includes USB drives you connected in the past and still have an
enumeration in the registry. Go under the Disk Drives section,
right-click on the USB drive, and select Uninstall. If Windows doesn't
automatically install a new driver, you may have to rescan for a
hardware change (right-click on the root node which is the computer's
name, select Scan for hardware changes). If Windows doesn't include an
embedded driver for that USB device, you'll have to get one from
whomever makes that device.

NOTE:

If you configure the USB device to use "Quick Removal", there is no
buffering (caching) of writes, so it is safe to remove the USB device
without first having to eject (unmount) it. Quick Removal is the
default in Windows 10. Not the case in prior versions of Windows hence
the need to eject before extracting. See:

https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/04/09/w...our-usb-drive/

You can also use the Safely Remove Hardware wizard mentioned above,
select the USB drive, click the Properties button, click the Change
Settings button, to get to the same dialog where you can change to using
the "Quick Removal" policy.
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Old August 14th 19, 04:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Johnson[_2_]
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:12:43 -0400, Jason wrote:

The icon no longer appears among the hidden taskbar icons.
This seems to be the case regardless of what was plugged
into USB - thumb drives, external disks, etc.

There must be an executable associated with that icon.
What's its name? I could just execute it directly or place
it as an icon on the desktop.

Not needed anymore but don't ask me where I read that. I never used
it.
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Old August 14th 19, 04:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
lonelydad
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

Peter Johnson wrote in
:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:12:43 -0400, Jason wrote:

The icon no longer appears among the hidden taskbar icons.
This seems to be the case regardless of what was plugged
into USB - thumb drives, external disks, etc.

There must be an executable associated with that icon.
What's its name? I could just execute it directly or place
it as an icon on the desktop.

Not needed anymore but don't ask me where I read that. I never used
it.

For drives you can always go to File Explorer, right click on the drive,
and select 'Eject'
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Old August 14th 19, 06:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:20:41 +0100, Peter Johnson wrote:

Not needed anymore but don't ask me where I read that. I never used
it.


I thought it was still there, in systray, on the right of the taskbar.

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Old August 15th 19, 02:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jason
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

In article -
The following brings up the USB dialog box instead of just a list but it
allows same thung. The following is from the batch file I created so I
can just double click when required.

rundll32 shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll


Thanks. That's handy.


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Old August 15th 19, 04:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:12:43 -0400, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Jason
wrote:

The icon no longer appears among the hidden taskbar icons.
This seems to be the case regardless of what was plugged
into USB - thumb drives, external disks, etc.

There must be an executable associated with that icon.
What's its name? I could just execute it directly or place
it as an icon on the desktop.

I don't know what happened to your install. It's always there on my
system when I have something removable plugged in, because my removable
HD is always plugged in. It looks like a little USB key. I make sure it's
dragged *out* of the overflow section (which is behind the up arrow to
the left of the tray) because then it reminds me that I have to eject
things before I pull them physically out.

For external hard drives, it's absolutely necessary. I choose "safely
remove" and the drive goes off and finalizes for about 20 seconds. USB
keys, not so much. They probably don't need it.

Not helpful, I know, but because I can see it on my system, that means
either you lost track of it on yours, Windows changed something, or you
need to (*gasp*) "refresh" Windows. Refresh is a PITA though -- all your
win32 apps will be uninstalled -- so make sure you thoroughly
troubleshoot first.

What sort of device is it? Multiples? Maybe it no longer needs the icon?

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No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
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Old August 15th 19, 04:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaghadka
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:20:41 +0100, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Peter
Johnson wrote:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:12:43 -0400, Jason wrote:

The icon no longer appears among the hidden taskbar icons.
This seems to be the case regardless of what was plugged
into USB - thumb drives, external disks, etc.

There must be an executable associated with that icon.
What's its name? I could just execute it directly or place
it as an icon on the desktop.

Not needed anymore but don't ask me where I read that. I never used
it.


It's still needed for hard disks if write caching is turned on. When I
eject my hard disk, it goes off and finalizes for 10-20 seconds or so.

I'm pretty sure USB keys don't default to write caching mode, so for
there, you're probably on the money. I've just pulled them out before and
never lost a thing.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
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Old August 15th 19, 04:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Zaghadka
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Default Where's "Safely remove"?

On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:34:36 GMT, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, lonelydad
wrote:

Peter Johnson wrote in
:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:12:43 -0400, Jason wrote:

The icon no longer appears among the hidden taskbar icons.
This seems to be the case regardless of what was plugged
into USB - thumb drives, external disks, etc.

There must be an executable associated with that icon.
What's its name? I could just execute it directly or place
it as an icon on the desktop.

Not needed anymore but don't ask me where I read that. I never used
it.

For drives you can always go to File Explorer, right click on the drive,
and select 'Eject'


FYI, there is no "eject" for my external HD right-click menu, so that
doesn't always work.

It's a WD MyBook.

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Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten
 




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