AVG

I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version
has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a
degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of
euphemisms).
Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive
and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to
serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low
system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV
comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic
supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s.

It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact'
comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection.

--
Mike Easter

On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to
serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low
system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV
comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic
supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s.

It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact'
comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection.



Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions
for years.
Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an
elephant in ages. :-)

Rene

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I run it and Malware-bytes

Malwarebytes as realtime or just periodic?

--
Mike Easter

"Ed Cryer" wrote in message news

I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version
has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a
degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of
euphemisms).
Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive
and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

Ed
Try the free Avast and put it in 'Game Mode'.

That stops almost all of the annoying popups.

Seems to be low impact, also.

Quick and asy to try. Also free!!
--
Buffalo

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 14:29:50 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote in

On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to
serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low
system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV
comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic
supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s.

It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact'
comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection.



Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions
for years.
Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an
elephant in ages. :-)

Rene

I have Win7pro/32. How do I determine if MSE is installed on my
computer? When I look in Control Panel Programs Programs and
Features, I don't see it.

Thanks
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CRNG wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 14:29:50 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote in

On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good enough' to
serve as realtime protection for the advantages of unobtrusive and low
system resource demands. It compares 'unfavorably' against others at AV
comparatives in certain tests. You could get by with that and periodic
supplementation with some other periodic scanner/s.

It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives 'impact'
comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world protection.



Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any intrusions
for years.
Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an
elephant in ages. :-)

Rene

I have Win7pro/32. How do I determine if MSE is installed on my
computer? When I look in Control Panel Programs Programs and
Features, I don't see it.

Thanks


Entry in Control Panel/ uninstall list
Icon in systray; green tent with white tick
Entry in Program Files(X86)/ Microsoft Security Client

Ed

Rene Lamontagne news Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:29:50 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good
enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of
unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares
'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests.
You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with
some other periodic scanner/s.

It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives
'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world
protection.



Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any
intrusions for years.
Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an
elephant in ages. :-)

Rene


Just keep in mind, despite the marketing hype, Malwarebytes is NOT a
suitable replacement for antivirus. It doesn't do anything with an
actual virus. It cannot clean infected or patched files. It doesn't
scan inside ms word .doc files, either.


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For such a cute kid, you sure turned out ugly.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 15:52:58 -0700, The Newest Other Guy
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:48:45 +0100, Ed Cryer
wrote:

Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive
and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

In a word..


NO!!


That word is completely wrong. Of course it protects.

Does it protect *perfectly*. No. But no anti-virus program does.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 15:52:58 -0700, The Newest Other Guy wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:48:45 +0100, Ed Cryer
wrote:

Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive
and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

In a word..

NO!!

A bit harsh - see he
http://robert.ocallahan.org/2017/01/...re-except.html

Diesel wrote:
Rene Lamontagne news Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:29:50 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good
enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of
unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares
'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests.
You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with
some other periodic scanner/s.

It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives
'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world
protection.



Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any
intrusions for years.
Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an
elephant in ages. :-)

Rene


Just keep in mind, despite the marketing hype, Malwarebytes is NOT a
suitable replacement for antivirus. It doesn't do anything with an
actual virus. It cannot clean infected or patched files. It doesn't
scan inside ms word .doc files, either.



Cobblers!
I was recently ferreting inside the Malwarebytes folder, and I found the
quarantine file had got a bit plumptious. So I investigated how to empty
it, and the method is to simply delete it.

It didn't get fat by accident.

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:
I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free version
has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam and a
degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick of
euphemisms).
Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive
and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

Ed

Consumer Complaints and Reviews
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/avg.html

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free
version has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam
and a degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also sick
of euphemisms).
Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite
unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

Ed

Consumer Complaints and Reviews
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/avg.html

Ed

I battled through all those over the months; I found a way to remove
Zen, avoid the pop-ups, keep intrusiveness to a minimum; but the latest
update defeated me.
It got me into a roundelay of "Reboot to cure this"; I rebooted, it said
"Reboot to cure this" ; I rebooted, it said "..". So I did a repair
install, which went okay, rebooted and it said "Reboot to ...".

No doubt I could have found a cure, but the thought hit me "Yet another
one! AVG are hell-bound on driving me to the paid-for version; and I
(silly fool) am spending time and energy in the fight. And I have better
things to do".

So, I installed MSE.
And if MSE drags me into a similar battle, I'll uninstall it, digitise
myself and dive into the bits and pieces of this bag of tricks and do
personal battle with the little buggers that reside there; like Iron Man
and Superman.

Ed (:-

On 6/17/2017 10:40 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Diesel wrote:
Rene Lamontagne news Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:29:50 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On 6/16/2017 2:09 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
MSE, which seems quite unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

It has advantages and disadvantages. It is probably 'good
enough' to serve as realtime protection for the advantages of
unobtrusive and low system resource demands. It compares
'unfavorably' against others at AV comparatives in certain tests.
You could get by with that and periodic supplementation with
some other periodic scanner/s.

It scores the highest/best on the most recent AV-Comparatives
'impact' comparison and does 'ok' on the most recent real-world
protection.



Works for me, I run it and Malware-bytes and haven't had any
intrusions for years.
Oh and did I mention it keeps elephants away too, Haven't seen an
elephant in ages. :-)

Rene


Just keep in mind, despite the marketing hype, Malwarebytes is NOT a
suitable replacement for antivirus. It doesn't do anything with an
actual virus. It cannot clean infected or patched files. It doesn't
scan inside ms word .doc files, either.



Cobblers!
I was recently ferreting inside the Malwarebytes folder, and I found the
quarantine file had got a bit plumptious. So I investigated how to empty
it, and the method is to simply delete it.

It didn't get fat by accident.

Ed


What is the file-name of the quarantine file?

--
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http://www.rossde.com

Consider:
* Most state mandate that drivers have liability insurance.
* Employers are mandated to have worker's compensation insurance.
* If you live in a flood zone, flood insurance is mandatory.
* If your home has a mortgage, fire insurance is mandatory.

Why then is mandatory health insurance so bad??

Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
I've stuck with AVG for years. It used to be good, but the free
version has been ganged-up on with nags, errors, mazes, annoying spam
and a degree of PITA that almost rivals MS' "telemetry" (I'm also
sick of euphemisms).
Anyway, I've ditched it and installed MSE, which seems quite
unobtrusive and malleable at the moment.
But does it protect?

Ed

Consumer Complaints and Reviews
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/avg.html

Ed

I battled through all those over the months; I found a way to remove
Zen, avoid the pop-ups, keep intrusiveness to a minimum; but the latest
update defeated me.
It got me into a roundelay of "Reboot to cure this"; I rebooted, it said
"Reboot to cure this" ; I rebooted, it said "..". So I did a repair
install, which went okay, rebooted and it said "Reboot to ...".

No doubt I could have found a cure, but the thought hit me "Yet another
one! AVG are hell-bound on driving me to the paid-for version; and I
(silly fool) am spending time and energy in the fight. And I have better
things to do".

So, I installed MSE.
And if MSE drags me into a similar battle, I'll uninstall it, digitise
myself and dive into the bits and pieces of this bag of tricks and do
personal battle with the little buggers that reside there; like Iron Man
and Superman.

Ed (:-

If you're having trouble with a commercial AV product,
look for the "removal tool" for the product.

http://www.avg.com/ca-en/utilities

AVG Remover
(AVG_Remover.exe) exe March 1, 2017 7 MB

That removes the portion the "uninstaller" cannot remove.

The general idea, is first you run the product uninstaller,
and then you run the removal tool. It might be termed
a "removal" or a "cleanup" tool. It's best if the web page
that file is on, includes written instructions for usage
(i.e. they may not all work exactly the same way).

"AVG Remover is the last option to be used in case the
AVG uninstall / repair installation process has
failed repeatedly."

Paul