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Old October 3rd 12, 04:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

Paul Allen's (Msft co-founder, investor and philanthropist) article on Windows 8

Idea Man - Paul’s take on Windows 8:
http://www.paulallen.com/TemplateGen...x?contentId=21


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Old October 4th 12, 02:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

Hi, Winston.

Interesting read. Even Paul is mystified and frustrated about some of
Win8's "features".

But, like me, he likes Win8 overall and is looking forward to seeing some of
its rough edges cleaned up "in the next release". SP1, anybody?

Quote from the final, "Conclusions" section:
Windows 8 does certainly require a brief adjustment period before users
become familiar and comfortable with the new bimodal operating system.


Desktop PC users, with only minor tweaks and adjustments, should be able
to pick things up without much trouble. I am sure most the minor issues I
pointed out will be addressed in the next release of the operating system.


Perhaps he should have used some words other than "brief" and "minor" in a
few places. :^{

And he wasn't limited to the RTM Enterprise Evaluation Edition, as I am for
now, so he could run Media Center and FreeCell!

RC
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San Marcos, TX

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Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728) in Win8 Enterprise (Eval)


"...winston" wrote in message ...

Paul Allen's (Msft co-founder, investor and philanthropist) article on
Windows 8

Idea Man - Paul’s take on Windows 8:
http://www.paulallen.com/TemplateGen...x?contentId=21


--
....winston
msft mvp mail

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Old October 4th 12, 08:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

Yes, agree. He was very (for lack of better words) politically sensitive in his comments.

If he has Media Center (then he's got the update in advance of anyone who using the current RTM version).
Free Cell and Solitaire (and a boatload of other games are available for free in the MSFT store under XBox/Microsoft account
required)



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"R. C. White" wrote in message ecom...

Hi, Winston.

Interesting read. Even Paul is mystified and frustrated about some of
Win8's "features".

But, like me, he likes Win8 overall and is looking forward to seeing some of
its rough edges cleaned up "in the next release". SP1, anybody?

Quote from the final, "Conclusions" section:
Windows 8 does certainly require a brief adjustment period before users become familiar and comfortable with the new bimodal
operating system.


Desktop PC users, with only minor tweaks and adjustments, should be able to pick things up without much trouble. I am sure most
the minor issues I pointed out will be addressed in the next release of the operating system.


Perhaps he should have used some words other than "brief" and "minor" in a
few places. :^{

And he wasn't limited to the RTM Enterprise Evaluation Edition, as I am for
now, so he could run Media Center and FreeCell!

RC
-- --
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728) in Win8 Enterprise (Eval)


"...winston" wrote in message ...

Paul Allen's (Msft co-founder, investor and philanthropist) article on
Windows 8

Idea Man - Paul’s take on Windows 8:
http://www.paulallen.com/TemplateGen...x?contentId=21


--
....winston
msft mvp mail

  #4  
Old October 5th 12, 04:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
R. C. White
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

Hi, Winston.

But I don't have an Xbox - and don't really want one. Just to play
Solitaire? I do have a Microsoft Account.

Win8 SAYS that Solitaire is free and that I've already installed - but I
can't find it in my Win8 RTM Ent Eval edition.

Oh, well. Just 22 more days...

RC
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San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"...winston" wrote in message ...

Yes, agree. He was very (for lack of better words) politically sensitive in
his comments.

If he has Media Center (then he's got the update in advance of anyone who
using the current RTM version).
Free Cell and Solitaire (and a boatload of other games are available for
free in the MSFT store under XBox/Microsoft account
required)

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"R. C. White" wrote in message
ecom...

Hi, Winston.

Interesting read. Even Paul is mystified and frustrated about some of
Win8's "features".

But, like me, he likes Win8 overall and is looking forward to seeing some of
its rough edges cleaned up "in the next release". SP1, anybody?

Quote from the final, "Conclusions" section:
Windows 8 does certainly require a brief adjustment period before users
become familiar and comfortable with the new bimodal
operating system.


Desktop PC users, with only minor tweaks and adjustments, should be able
to pick things up without much trouble. I am sure most
the minor issues I pointed out will be addressed in the next release of
the operating system.


Perhaps he should have used some words other than "brief" and "minor" in a
few places. :^{

And he wasn't limited to the RTM Enterprise Evaluation Edition, as I am for
now, so he could run Media Center and FreeCell!

RC


"...winston" wrote in message ...

Paul Allen's (Msft co-founder, investor and philanthropist) article on
Windows 8

Idea Man - Paul’s take on Windows 8:
http://www.paulallen.com/TemplateGen...x?contentId=21


--
....winston
msft mvp mail

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Old October 5th 12, 08:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

One doesn't need an Xbox.
The RTM games are deployed via the MSFT store and require a free Xbox Live
account to use them. The Windows profile Microsoft account username/pw is
used to create the XBox Live account profile (similar to assigning a Live
ID/Microsoft account to an MSDN or Msft Answers profile) and Xbox Live
assigns the user a gamer tag (username).

....winston
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"R. C. White" wrote in message
...

Hi, Winston.

But I don't have an Xbox - and don't really want one. Just to play
Solitaire? I do have a Microsoft Account.

Win8 SAYS that Solitaire is free and that I've already installed - but I
can't find it in my Win8 RTM Ent Eval edition.

Oh, well. Just 22 more days...

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"...winston" wrote in message ...

Yes, agree. He was very (for lack of better words) politically sensitive in
his comments.

If he has Media Center (then he's got the update in advance of anyone who
using the current RTM version).
Free Cell and Solitaire (and a boatload of other games are available for
free in the MSFT store under XBox/Microsoft account
required)

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"R. C. White" wrote in message
ecom...

Hi, Winston.

Interesting read. Even Paul is mystified and frustrated about some of
Win8's "features".

But, like me, he likes Win8 overall and is looking forward to seeing some of
its rough edges cleaned up "in the next release". SP1, anybody?

Quote from the final, "Conclusions" section:
Windows 8 does certainly require a brief adjustment period before users
become familiar and comfortable with the new bimodal
operating system.


Desktop PC users, with only minor tweaks and adjustments, should be able
to pick things up without much trouble. I am sure most
the minor issues I pointed out will be addressed in the next release of
the operating system.


Perhaps he should have used some words other than "brief" and "minor" in a
few places. :^{

And he wasn't limited to the RTM Enterprise Evaluation Edition, as I am for
now, so he could run Media Center and FreeCell!

RC


"...winston" wrote in message ...

Paul Allen's (Msft co-founder, investor and philanthropist) article on
Windows 8

Idea Man - Paul’s take on Windows 8:
http://www.paulallen.com/TemplateGen...x?contentId=21


--
....winston
msft mvp mail

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Old October 5th 12, 10:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen


"R. C. White" wrote in message ...
Hi, Winston.

But I don't have an Xbox - and don't really want one. Just to play
Solitaire? I do have a Microsoft Account.

Win8 SAYS that Solitaire is free and that I've already installed - but I
can't find it in my Win8 RTM Ent Eval edition.

Oh, well. Just 22 more days...


If you don't mind using a hex editor ( or use the patcher mentioned here)
you can run the Win7 games in Win8

http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what...-in-windows-8/

I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can confirm they run ok in Win8.




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Old October 5th 12, 11:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

Dave-UK wrote:

"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Winston.

But I don't have an Xbox - and don't really want one. Just to play
Solitaire? I do have a Microsoft Account.

Win8 SAYS that Solitaire is free and that I've already installed - but
I can't find it in my Win8 RTM Ent Eval edition.

Oh, well. Just 22 more days...


If you don't mind using a hex editor ( or use the patcher mentioned here)
you can run the Win7 games in Win8

http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what...-in-windows-8/


I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can confirm
they run ok in Win8.


It's hard to imagine Windows without Solitaire. I mean, what else is it
good for?

--
Crash

"When you want to fool the world, tell the truth."
~ Otto von Bismarck ~
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Old October 5th 12, 12:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message ...
Dave-UK wrote:

"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Winston.

But I don't have an Xbox - and don't really want one. Just to play
Solitaire? I do have a Microsoft Account.

Win8 SAYS that Solitaire is free and that I've already installed - but
I can't find it in my Win8 RTM Ent Eval edition.

Oh, well. Just 22 more days...


If you don't mind using a hex editor ( or use the patcher mentioned here)
you can run the Win7 games in Win8

http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what...-in-windows-8/


I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can confirm
they run ok in Win8.


It's hard to imagine Windows without Solitaire. I mean, what else is it
good for?


Indeed, and now you've got no excuse for not getting to grips with Win8.
There's no Aero and you can even have your beloved Classic start menu!
:-)




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Old October 5th 12, 12:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Dave-UK wrote:

"Dave "Crash" Dummy" wrote in message
...
Dave-UK wrote:

"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Winston.

But I don't have an Xbox - and don't really want one. Just to play
Solitaire? I do have a Microsoft Account.

Win8 SAYS that Solitaire is free and that I've already installed -
but I can't find it in my Win8 RTM Ent Eval edition.

Oh, well. Just 22 more days...


If you don't mind using a hex editor ( or use the patcher mentioned
here)
you can run the Win7 games in Win8

http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what...-in-windows-8/


I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can
confirm they run ok in Win8.


It's hard to imagine Windows without Solitaire. I mean, what else is
it good for?


Indeed, and now you've got no excuse for not getting to grips with Win8.
There's no Aero and you can even have your beloved Classic start menu!
:-)


All good points, but I'm just getting used to Win7, and it ain't broke,
so why fix it? :-)
--
Crash

"When you get to a fork in the road, take it."
~ Yogi Berra ~
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Old October 5th 12, 03:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:01:22 +0100, "Dave-UK" wrote:


I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can confirm they run ok in Win8.




Ugh! The Windows 7 chess program is terrible, and is easy to beat. If
you like to play chess, and want a much better program, I recommend
two: Fritz and Rybka.


--
Ken Blake
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Old October 5th 12, 03:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 06:34:01 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
wrote:


It's hard to imagine Windows without Solitaire. I mean, what else is it
good for?




For those who don't know (or don't remember), Solitaire was originally
included in Windows to give people practice in using the mouse to
click, double-click, and drag.

--
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Old October 5th 12, 03:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 06:34:01 -0400, Dave \"Crash\" Dummy wrote:

Dave-UK wrote:

"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Winston.

But I don't have an Xbox - and don't really want one. Just to play
Solitaire? I do have a Microsoft Account.

Win8 SAYS that Solitaire is free and that I've already installed - but
I can't find it in my Win8 RTM Ent Eval edition.

Oh, well. Just 22 more days...


If you don't mind using a hex editor ( or use the patcher mentioned
here) you can run the Win7 games in Win8

http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what...solitaire-and-

minesweeper-in-windows-8/


I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can
confirm they run ok in Win8.


It's hard to imagine Windows without Solitaire. I mean, what else is it
good for?


pinball.
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Old October 5th 12, 03:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:01:22 +0100, "Dave-UK" wrote:


I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can confirm they run ok in Win8.




Ugh! The Windows 7 chess program is terrible, and is easy to beat. If
you like to play chess, and want a much better program, I recommend
two: Fritz and Rybka.


--
Ken Blake


I don't play chess a lot but thanks for the heads up.
I just chose the Chess and Solitaire exe files as an exercise in Windows hacking!


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Old October 5th 12, 04:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Another Perspective on Win 8 - Paul Allen

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:49:34 +0100, "Dave-UK" wrote:


"Ken Blake" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 10:01:22 +0100, "Dave-UK" wrote:


I've just tried converting Win7 Chess and Win7 Solitaire and can confirm they run ok in Win8.




Ugh! The Windows 7 chess program is terrible, and is easy to beat. If
you like to play chess, and want a much better program, I recommend
two: Fritz and Rybka.


--
Ken Blake


I don't play chess a lot but thanks for the heads up.
I just chose the Chess and Solitaire exe files as an exercise in Windows hacking!



You're welcome, and OK. Actually I don't play chess a lot either. But
I used to be an active tournament player some 55 or so years ago.


--
Ken Blake
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Old October 5th 12, 04:23 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 07:31:44 -0700, "Ken Blake"
wrote in article ...

On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 06:34:01 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
wrote:


It's hard to imagine Windows without Solitaire. I mean, what else is it
good for?



For those who don't know (or don't remember), Solitaire was originally
included in Windows to give people practice in using the mouse to
click, double-click, and drag.



I always thought that was an urban legend.

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manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.
 




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