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Thinking of updating my MS Office?
Currently using Office 2007 (Ultimate), mainly use Word, Excel, and
Access at home. I understand Office 2019 is about to come out, so I'm thinking there might be some good deals on Office 2016 soon. Thinking of going to Office 2016, not interested in the Office 365 subscription model at all. Also let's not get sidetracked by discussions about OpenOffice or Google Docs, I use those as well, but you need the actual MS Office for the most features and most compatibility. Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main applications, for example. Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too? Yousuf Khan |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:09:44 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote: Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main applications, for example. Most of my colleagues love the OneNote application. Is that available in Office 2007? I can't give a personal review because it's been on my "need to try this" list for a couple of years now. I'm just too lazy to make my life better, I guess. Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too? Yes. I use Office 2016 with Windows 7, 8.1, and 10. -- Char Jackson |
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Char Jackson wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote: Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main applications, for example. Get ready for the ribbon bar. Everything you learned about where were functions in the menus is discarded in having to figure out where it moved to in the ribbon bar. Most of my colleagues love the OneNote application. You don't have to buy OneNote. It is free and available for Windows, Android, and iOS (Apple). https://www.onenote.com/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...office.onenote https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/micr...410395246?mt=8 Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too? Yes. I use Office 2016 with Windows 7, 8.1, and 10. Deals don't show up on Microsoft products until about 3 years after a new version has been *released*. Also, the last version often remains high for quite awhile. You need to go back 2, or more, versions several years after the release of a new version to find good deals on old versions. Most vendors sell only the license key. You have to download the product (often from Microsoft). Make sure you get the correct edition. If you're using Outlook, you don't want to get the Home & Student edition that is missing Outlook. If you use any of Outlook, Publisher, or Access, you don't want the Home & Student or Home & Business editions. OneNote is in all editions but then it is available for free no matter what MSOffice edition you get. |
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On 04/04/2018 12:09 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Currently using Office 2007 (Ultimate), mainly use Word, Excel, and Access at home. I understand Office 2019 is about to come out, so I'm thinking there might be some good deals on Office 2016 soon. Thinking of going to Office 2016, not interested in the Office 365 subscription model at all. Also let's not get sidetracked by discussions about OpenOffice or Google Docs, I use those as well, but you need the actual MS Office for the most features and most compatibility. Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main applications, for example. Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too? Â*Â*Â*Â*Yousuf Khan Unless the new version has some features you really need...no sense in updating. Most of the people I know are fine with their ten year old versions. |
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philo wrote:
On 04/04/2018 12:09 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote: Currently using Office 2007 (Ultimate), mainly use Word, Excel, and Access at home. I understand Office 2019 is about to come out, so I'm thinking there might be some good deals on Office 2016 soon. Thinking of going to Office 2016, not interested in the Office 365 subscription model at all. Also let's not get sidetracked by discussions about OpenOffice or Google Docs, I use those as well, but you need the actual MS Office for the most features and most compatibility. Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main applications, for example. Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too? ****Yousuf Khan Unless the new version has some features you really need...no sense in updating. One caveat: MS Office 2007 has already gone End-of-life. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...le/search/8753 Here's the same information for Office 2016. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/search/18412 To the OP: If you aren't already using it, and you need to keep your Office 2007 installation patched, you might look into extended support (esr) version (currently, 9.2.4) of WSUS Offline. http://www.wsusoffline.net/ The standard version (currently 11.2.1) is extremely useful for currently-supported MS software. -- George Ruch "Is there life in Clovis after Clovis Man?" |
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On 4/4/2018 3:04 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:09:44 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote: Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main applications, for example. Most of my colleagues love the OneNote application. Is that available in Office 2007? I can't give a personal review because it's been on my "need to try this" list for a couple of years now. I'm just too lazy to make my life better, I guess. Yes, OneNote is in 2007. Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too? Yes. I use Office 2016 with Windows 7, 8.1, and 10. Great, I have one Windows 7 notebook that I'm not going to try to bother to upgrade to Windows 10, I already tried it on it, and a lot of features stopped working under it, so I restored it back to Windows 7 and have run it ever since. Yousuf Khan |
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On 4/4/2018 6:41 PM, philo wrote:
Unless the new version has some features you really need...no sense in updating. Most of the people I know are fine with their ten year old versions. That's what I'm trying to determine. I'm starting to get a bit more advanced in Access right now, and reading some stuff online, it seems there's a few extra features in later versions of Access than the one in 2007. Yousuf Khan |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 13:09:44 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? Office 2007 was slow and very buggy. Both conditions were significantly improved by Service Pack 3. Still, 2016 is a bit peppier. I googled "differences Office 2007 and Office 2016" (without quotes, and got quite a few useful-looking hits, a few of which were actually relevant. Here are a couple: https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoft/c...t_worth_it_to_ upgrade_from_office_2007_to/ https://forums.windowssecrets.com/sh...44-Office-365- vs-Office-2007-work-process-differences-if-any I personally loathe one aspect of the Excel 2016 interface: every opened workbook is a separate window, and so to close the program you have to click the red X multiple times. But then I bought Office 2010 when it was current, and I don't know of any new features in 2013 or 2016 that I really need. Also I understand that Office 2019 will only work in Windows 10, so does Office 2016 work in Windows 7 too? Yes, it does. We have it on virtual machines at work. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 16:12:54 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: Yousuf Khan wrote: Is there anything new that is useful with 2016 that's not also in 2007? I'm talking about new side applications and/or features within the main applications, for example. Get ready for the ribbon bar. Everything you learned about where were functions in the menus is discarded in having to figure out where it moved to in the ribbon bar. Office 2007 was the one that introduced the ribbon bar. -- Steve Hayes http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm http://khanya.wordpress.com |
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 22:21:24 -0400, Stan Brown
wrote: I personally loathe one aspect of the Excel 2016 interface: every opened workbook is a separate window, [snip] One of my favorite and most-used features. I frequently have two or more workbooks open at once and it's very useful to be able to move them around to any of my 3 displays. -- Char Jackson |
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Per Steve Hayes:
Office 2007 was the one that introduced the ribbon bar. When I was developing ad-hoc Access apps for bond traders (who were using Office 2003 at the time), people would tell me "If the new app involves my having to use Office 2007, just forget it...". I think the Ribbon Bar was the primary culprit. -- Pete Cresswell |
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Per Char Jackson:
One of my favorite and most-used features. I frequently have two or more workbooks open at once and it's very useful to be able to move them around to any of my 3 displays. +1 - putting all the workbooks under a single window makes me crazy. IIRC, in 2003 at least, there is a registry change one can make that cures that problem and opens each workbook in it's own window. Personally, I have been drifting towards LibreOffice 4.2 because it opens the occasional .XLSX file I get. Even so, I keep Office 2003 installed just for MS Access... -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:44:00 -0600, George
wrote: One caveat: MS Office 2007 has already gone End-of-life. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...le/search/8753 Here's the same information for Office 2016. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/search/18412 I recently installed XP as a virtual system on my Win-10 computer. On XP I installed Office XP. Interestingly, even though the XP "drive" was not active at the time, when I used the Win Mini-Update tool, it came up with "Office XP SP3" update. I declined. My OfficeXP has been doing everything I want for years. -dan z- -- Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world. (Anonymous) |
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"(PeteCresswell)" wrote
| Personally, I have been drifting towards LibreOffice 4.2 because it opens the | occasional .XLSX file I get. Is there a reason not to use the latest -- 5.4 for XP or 6 for Win7+? I use LO for everything office-esque, but my needs are minimal, so I haven't really looked into differences between versions. I just update every once in awhile, when I think of it. |
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On 05/04/2018 13:37, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Char Jackson: One of my favorite and most-used features. I frequently have two or more workbooks open at once and it's very useful to be able to move them around to any of my 3 displays. +1 - putting all the workbooks under a single window makes me crazy. Whereas splurging the desktop with multiple windows and the task bar with multiple icons for the same app makes me crazy. I try to keep all my main work windows exactly above each other and then use Alt Tab to switch rapidly between them, and the first thing I have to do whenever I open a second window of anything is put it back exactly above the other(s) because of MS' unhelpful insistance on putting somewhere else, anywhere else, than where I actually want it. IIRC, in 2003 at least, there is a registry change one can make that cures that problem and opens each workbook in it's own window. In earlier editions of Office such as 2000, it was an explicit choice in the options dialog. Now I don't get the choice any more, because, after all in these days of multiple monitors all guzzling electricity, who ever heard of anyone working so efficiently that they only need just one?! Er, should I have put a smiley there, I wonder? Alright, here it is :-) Personally, I have been drifting towards LibreOffice 4.2 because it opens the occasional .XLSX file I get. I use Libre Office for most things now, but that too is multiple windows, sigh! |
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