second hard drive not showing in Windows 8

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:13 -0800, wrote:

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert

Because the D drive a clone of C drive, the computer will not assign
the D drive a letter--and there can't be two OS/C-drives....

If you take a peek under Manage Disk Management, you will see
probably see both drives as shown--just no letter assigned to the
second drive. Adding it as an external drive won't change the fact Win
8 sees it as an OS-active partition drive (i.e. second C drive) and
will not assign it a drive letter. Your drive-cloning software should
see the second drive though--if it is Win 8 compatible.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:04:50 -0600, "
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:13 -0800, wrote:

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert

Because the D drive a clone of C drive, the computer will not assign
the D drive a letter--and there can't be two OS/C-drives....


I clone drives all the time and have never had Windows fail to assign
the clone a drive letter. Unless this has changed with Windows 8
(which I doubt, but have not explicitly tested under Windows 8) I don't
see how this could be a factor.
--
Zaphod

Adventurer, ex-hippie, good-timer (crook? quite possibly),
manic self-publicist, terrible bad at personal relationships,
often thought to be completely out to lunch.

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:04:50 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:13 -0800, wrote:

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert

Because the D drive a clone of C drive, the computer will not assign
the D drive a letter--and there can't be two OS/C-drives....

If you take a peek under Manage Disk Management, you will see
probably see both drives as shown--just no letter assigned to the
second drive. Adding it as an external drive won't change the fact Win
8 sees it as an OS-active partition drive (i.e. second C drive) and
will not assign it a drive letter. Your drive-cloning software should
see the second drive though--if it is Win 8 compatible.

Yes, did see it as a D Dr. I'll check out "Disk Management" as you say

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:16:21 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:04:50 -0600, "
wrote in article
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:13 -0800, wrote:

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert

Because the D drive a clone of C drive, the computer will not assign
the D drive a letter--and there can't be two OS/C-drives....


I clone drives all the time and have never had Windows fail to assign
the clone a drive letter. Unless this has changed with Windows 8
(which I doubt, but have not explicitly tested under Windows 8) I don't
see how this could be a factor.

Apparently it has changed :-(

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:06:11 -0800, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:04:50 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:13 -0800, wrote:

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert

Because the D drive a clone of C drive, the computer will not assign
the D drive a letter--and there can't be two OS/C-drives....

If you take a peek under Manage Disk Management, you will see
probably see both drives as shown--just no letter assigned to the
second drive. Adding it as an external drive won't change the fact Win
8 sees it as an OS-active partition drive (i.e. second C drive) and
will not assign it a drive letter. Your drive-cloning software should
see the second drive though--if it is Win 8 compatible.

Yes, did see it as a D Dr. I'll check out "Disk Management" as you say

And in Disk management you can assign a drive letter to the drive, *if*
that is what the problem is.

Right click on the illiterate drive and follow the prompts - it's pretty
easy.

Aside: it's better for the backup drive to be external to the computer
case, in case your need for a backup is due to some glitch, e.g. a power
surge, that might affect both drives.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:07:46 -0800, "
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:16:21 -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:04:50 -0600, "
wrote in article
...

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:13 -0800, wrote:

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert

Because the D drive a clone of C drive, the computer will not assign
the D drive a letter--and there can't be two OS/C-drives....


I clone drives all the time and have never had Windows fail to assign
the clone a drive letter. Unless this has changed with Windows 8
(which I doubt, but have not explicitly tested under Windows 8) I don't
see how this could be a factor.

Apparently it has changed :-(

Nope, just cloned a drive and Windows 8 happily assigned it a drive
letter. Not sure what your problem is, but that ain't it.

--
Zaphod

Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, ya know? - Gag Halfrunt

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:40:13 -0800, wrote:

Hi all (again :-)

My original configuration file using XP was I had to hard drives and I
used Casper (cloning program) to clone C Dr. to D Dr. at the end of
each day for backup purposes.

After installing Windows 8 when I would go into my computer the second
hard drive did not show as it did in XP. I've since removed that drive
and I've ordered a hard drive enclosure so I can use it to recover
such things that I might need for Windows 8.

I plan on buying a new hard drive and try to set it up for cloning as
I did on XP but I'm wondering if it will show up. When I installed
Windows 8 and was 32-bit install which I had a choice of that or
64-bit would that have made a difference.

Albert
You could consider using File History in Windows 8 to automatically
backup yourfiles to an external USB3 thumb drive (128 GB). It can be
scheduled every hour but it can be configured for your needs, but
doesn't work to an internal drive. Can be configured for network
drives though. You'll find it in "Control Panel\System and
Security\File History". or type "File History" in the Start screen and
click or tap on Settings.

Personally, I prefer Allway Sync for daily data backups, as I can set
up profiles to do a differential backup of my data files from
different places in just a couple of mins at the end of the day before
I shut down. It does work between any disks you want, internal and
external and network. Think it does Cloud too, but I don't backup much
to the cloud. Too slow and insecure.

Cloning the drive every day is a bit of an overkill and I'd think the
OS would have a problem with a clone of the "C" drive living in the
same system trying to also assign itself to the "C" drive letter. When
you boot the machine, which drive is gonna boot?? I've had situations
in the past (might've been on XP) when a USB clone of the C drive
booted instead of the internal drive. It wasn't pretty.

Anyway before Win 8 I used Acronis TrueImage Home (ATIH) to do a
continuous backup of my system, pretty much real time, but Windows 8
seems to do this ok now. I do use ATIH to clone my whole drive to an
external drive once a month or so, or after installing and configuring
significant new software, when my system is stable. That way, all I
have to do is clone that back to the internal boot drive in the event
of a system meltdown (I had one of those for real last week) and
restore my later data files from the hourly File History drive.

Cheers,
Dweebs