"turn off" button missing from logon window

Hi,

A "turn off" button is supposed to be at the left lower corn of
"logon" screen after you boot your PC or logoff from one user, but it
is not there anymore on my win XP. This "turn off" button allows me to
turn off the PC directly instead of logon to an user, then select
"start" button to turn it off, what had happened?
Thx.

On 2 Jun, 16:56, " wrote:
Hi,

A "turn off" button is supposed to be at the left lower corn of
"logon" screen after you boot your PC or logoff from one user, but it
is not there anymore on my win XP. This "turn off" button allows me to
turn off the PC directly instead of logon to an user, then select
"start" button to turn it off, what had happened?
Thx.

It's moved. Look at the very bottom left corner of the monitor.

Desmond.

On Jun 2, 12:03 pm, Desmond wrote:
On 2 Jun, 16:56, " wrote:

Hi,

A "turn off" button is supposed to be at the left lower corn of
"logon" screen after you boot your PC or logoff from one user, but it
is not there anymore on my win XP. This "turn off" button allows me to
turn off the PC directly instead of logon to an user, then select
"start" button to turn it off, what had happened?
Thx.

It's moved. Look at the very bottom left corner of the monitor.

Desmond.

It is not there and that is why I am asking the question. It was there
before, and I had seen it and used it for quite long time, then it
disappeared.

" wrote on Sat, 2 Jun 2007:

A "turn off" button is supposed to be at the left lower corn of
"logon" screen after you boot your PC or logoff from one user, but it
is not there anymore on my win XP. This "turn off" button allows me to
turn off the PC directly instead of logon to an user, then select
"start" button to turn it off, what had happened?

Hi wenmang

Click Start | Run and type: secpol.msc OK
Expand Local Policies and click on Security Options.
In the right-hand pane, look for the entry: "Shutdown: Allow system to
be shut down without having to log on" and Enable it.

Hope this helps :-)

--
Nightowl

On Jun 2, 12:58 pm, Nightowl ] wrote:
" wrote on Sat, 2 Jun 2007:

A "turn off" button is supposed to be at the left lower corn of
"logon" screen after you boot your PC or logoff from one user, but it
is not there anymore on my win XP. This "turn off" button allows me to
turn off the PC directly instead of logon to an user, then select
"start" button to turn it off, what had happened?

Hiwenmang

Click Start | Run and type: secpol.msc OK
Expand Local Policies and click on Security Options.
In the right-hand pane, look for the entry: "Shutdown: Allow system to
be shut down without having to log on" and Enable it.

Hope this helps :-)

--
Nightowl

secpol.msc is not available on my win XP. Can I go through
regedit.exe?

secpol.msc does not exist on Windows XP Home.

These two items do not come with XP Home edition:
gpedit.msc = Group Policy
secpol.msc = Local Security Settings

The Remove and prevent access to the Shut Down command Policy or NoClose set
to 1 in the registry disables Shut Down in Task Manager, Start menu and
Windows Security dialog.

On the Task Manager Menu Bar, there a File, Options, View, Shut Down and
Help.

The Shut Down menu contains:
* Stand By
* Hibernate
* Turn Off
* Restart
* Log Off (User Name)
* Switch User

Some of the above items may be unavailable (grayed out) depending on Group
Policies, et cetera.

For example.

NoClose removes access to Stand By, Hibernate, Turn Off, Restart and Log
Off (User Name) from the Shut Down menu in Task Manager, but leaves the
menu.

NoClose
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\Explorer

If not XP Pro...
Open the Registry Editor...
Start | Run | Type: regedit | Click OK |
Navigate to...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
Set NoClose to 0.

If XP Pro use Group Policy...
[[Prevents users from shutting down or restarting Windows. This setting
removes the Shut Down option from the Start menu and disables the Shut Down
button on the Windows Security dialog box, which appears when you press
CTRL+ALT+DEL. This setting prevents users from using the Windows user
interface to shut down the system, although it does not prevent them from
running programs that shut down Windows. If you disable this setting or do
not configure it, the Shut Down menu option appears, and the Shut Down
button is enabled. Note: It is a requirement for third-party applications
with Windows 2000 or later certification to adhere to this setting.]]
from...
Remove and prevent access to the Shut Down command
http://www.boyce.us/gp/gpcontent.asp?ID=352

Also...
NoClose
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro....mspx?mfr=true

[[Description
Determines whether the Shutdown button in the Log On to Windows dialog box
is enabled. The Log On to Windows dialog box appears when the user is
logging on to Windows 2000. The Shutdown button lets users stop the
operating system without logging on or turning off power to the computer.]]
from...
ShutdownWithoutLogon
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro....mspx?mfr=true

From WTC...
quote
If using Classic Logon the Task Manager will not show the Shut Down menu.

To verify what type of Logon you are using, go to the Control Panel | User
Accounts | Change the way users log on or off. If the Welcome Screen is not
checked then you are using the Classic Logon, there for no Shut down menu
will not be present for the Task Manager.

I have no idea if any of the above changes if on a domain.
quote

Turn the Welcome screen on...
1. In Control Panel, click User Accounts.
2. Click Change the way users log on or off.
3. Click the Use the Welcome screen to place a check mark in the check box.
4. Click OK.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In oups.com,
hunted and pecked:
On Jun 2, 12:58 pm, Nightowl ] wrote:
" wrote on Sat, 2 Jun 2007:

A "turn off" button is supposed to be at the left lower corn of
"logon" screen after you boot your PC or logoff from one user, but it
is not there anymore on my win XP. This "turn off" button allows me to
turn off the PC directly instead of logon to an user, then select
"start" button to turn it off, what had happened?

Hiwenmang

Click Start | Run and type: secpol.msc OK
Expand Local Policies and click on Security Options.
In the right-hand pane, look for the entry: "Shutdown: Allow system to
be shut down without having to log on" and Enable it.

Hope this helps :-)

--
Nightowl

secpol.msc is not available on my win XP. Can I go through
regedit.exe?

Nightowl ] wrote:

Hi wenmang

Click Start | Run and type: secpol.msc OK

You forgot to ask which version of XP was running.

Uncle Grumpy wrote on Sat, 2 Jun 2007:

Nightowl ] wrote:

Hi wenmang

Click Start | Run and type: secpol.msc OK

You forgot to ask which version of XP was running.

Indeed I did. Apologies to the OP and thanks for the reminder, UG :-)

--
Nightowl

" wrote on Sat, 2 Jun 2007:

secpol.msc is not available on my win XP. Can I go through
regedit.exe?

Sorry, wenmang, I should have asked what version of XP you were using. I
hope Wes's information will help you :-)

--
Nightowl

On Jun 3, 3:04 am, Nightowl ] wrote:
" wrote on Sat, 2 Jun 2007:

secpol.msc is not available on my win XP. Can I go through
regedit.exe?

Sorry,wenmang, I should have asked what version of XP you were using. I
hope Wes's information will help you :-)

--
Nightowl

win XP Home edition version 2002, service-pack 2.

I don't have secpol.msc, could I use regedit.exe or something else?

On Jun 2, 2:22 pm, "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
secpol.msc does not exist on Windows XP Home.

These two items do not come with XP Home edition:
gpedit.msc = Group Policy
secpol.msc = Local Security Settings

The Remove and prevent access to the Shut Down command Policy or NoClose set
to 1 in the registry disables Shut Down in Task Manager, Start menu and
Windows Security dialog.

On the Task Manager Menu Bar, there a File, Options, View, Shut Down and
Help.

The Shut Down menu contains:
* Stand By
* Hibernate
* Turn Off
* Restart
* Log Off (User Name)
* Switch User

Some of the above items may be unavailable (grayed out) depending on Group
Policies, et cetera.

For example.

NoClose removes access to Stand By, Hibernate, Turn Off, Restart and Log
Off (User Name) from the Shut Down menu in Task Manager, but leaves the
menu.

NoClose
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Policies\Explorer

If not XP Pro...
Open the Registry Editor...
Start | Run | Type: regedit | Click OK |
Navigate to...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
Set NoClose to 0.

If XP Pro use Group Policy...
[[Prevents users from shutting down or restarting Windows. This setting
removes the Shut Down option from the Start menu and disables the Shut Down
button on the Windows Security dialog box, which appears when you press
CTRL+ALT+DEL. This setting prevents users from using the Windows user
interface to shut down the system, although it does not prevent them from
running programs that shut down Windows. If you disable this setting or do
not configure it, the Shut Down menu option appears, and the Shut Down
button is enabled. Note: It is a requirement for third-party applications
with Windows 2000 or later certification to adhere to this setting.]]
from...
Remove and prevent access to the Shut Down commandhttp://www.boyce.us/gp/gpcontent.asp?ID=352

Also...
NoClosehttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/r...

[[Description
Determines whether the Shutdown button in the Log On to Windows dialog box
is enabled. The Log On to Windows dialog box appears when the user is
logging on to Windows 2000. The Shutdown button lets users stop the
operating system without logging on or turning off power to the computer.]]
from...
ShutdownWithoutLogonhttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/r...

From WTC...
quote
If using Classic Logon the Task Manager will not show the Shut Down menu.

To verify what type of Logon you are using, go to the Control Panel | User
Accounts | Change the way users log on or off. If the Welcome Screen is not
checked then you are using the Classic Logon, there for no Shut down menu
will not be present for the Task Manager.

I have no idea if any of the above changes if on a domain.
quote

Turn the Welcome screen on...
1. In Control Panel, click User Accounts.
2. Click Change the way users log on or off.
3. Click the Use the Welcome screen to place a check mark in the check box.
4. Click OK.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User



Thanks for the info. Check both registries, there is no NoClose exist,
and I manually add it as DWORD to both places and set them to 0, but
it doesn't help, still "turn off" button not showing.