Wrong HD?

P.S. Be careful of this link. It pops up
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I had to go to Task Manager (control-alt-delete)
and kill Firefox there. Then start Firefox again,
select "start new session", and start browsing
afresh.


"Comparison of Translation Modes"

http://pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesComparison-c.html

Paul

"W. eWatson" wrote:


Drives usually come not partitioned.

Use disk management to partition and format the drive
Not possible if the drive cannot be seen.

If there is no partition on the drive it won't be visible in Windows
Explorer or any open or save boxes. You'll have to use Disk Management
to create a partition and format that partition. Then it will appear
in Explorer and you'll be able to use it.

--
Tim Slattery
tim at risingdove dot com

"W. eWatson" wrote in message ...
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Click "Start", "Run", type "diskmgmt.msc" into the "Open" box, click "OK" and look
for the drive in the top window. If it isn't there, find it in the bottom window, right-click,
select "New Partition" and partition the drive. After the drive is partitioned, right-click it
and select "Format".

Ben

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 21:22:31 -0800, "W. eWatson"
wrote:

On 11/10/2013 5:50 PM, Bob F wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I
can't get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Did you partition and format it?


There is no way to do that. My Computer does not show the drive.


Did you look for it in Disk Management?

"W. eWatson" wrote in message ...
On 11/10/2013 7:03 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/10/2013 07:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Drives usually come not partitioned.

Use disk management to partition and format the drive
Not possible if the drive cannot be seen.

EIDE (PATA)

Use The: Western Digital
Data Lifeguard Tools 11.2
Setup CD

For the Software will see
The Caviar Enhanced IDE

So you can set up
Your
CP & Drive
and partitioned

This jumper should be repositioned
to select the following options:

- To designate the Western Digital
hard drive as the master drive in
a two-drive system,
place the jumper on pins 5-6.

- To designate the Western Digital
hard drive as the slave drive in
a two-drive system,
place the jumper on pins 3-4.


Heads 4 or 16
Cylinders 16383
Sector/track 63
Capacity form
/unform 8455/ MB

Select the product below to
download the appropriate software. Find by Model Number

WD Caviar
WD2500B

WD Caviar Blue
WD2500AABB

WD AV
WD2500AVJB

Software @
http://support.wdc.com/product/downl...vel1=5&lang=en

Yes "Paul"
This is a generic jumper document. This document
has value, for the information on page 3, which allows
drive geometry changes by adding a second jumper
for the "clip" function. That is used on old systems,
when the BIOS cannot handle a large drive. This does not
apply to your P5NSLI motherboard, which is quite modern.
Any system after mid-2003, is pretty well assured to be
large drive compatible, and not have a problem with 250GB
drives on either IDE or SATA port.
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/librar...579-001037.pdf

Maybe it isn't a jumper or cabling issue, and all
of that is fine.

That 100% Right
Perhaps you entered the BIOS setup, went to the
IDE section, and made modifications to the
"Auto" setting that Asus uses by default.
Look in there, you'll see it's been taken
off Auto and set to something else. After all,
with the 8.4GB previous drive, you may have been
tempted to use customs settings with it. I stopped
doing that, after "shooting myself in the foot"
with that stuff :-)
Ok, now to check if I have the manual in my collection.


Heads 4 or 16
Cylinders 16383
Sector/track 63
Capacity form/unform 8455/ MB

On 11/10/2013 5:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I think it's safe to say that when one cannot see a HD under My
Computers, the HD is dead. I confirmed that by taking the drive to a
local computer store, and it took about five minutes to prove it.

The drive is under warranty, and I should get a replacement by the end
of the week.

W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I think it's safe to say that when one cannot see a HD under My
Computers, the HD is dead. I confirmed that by taking the drive to a
local computer store, and it took about five minutes to prove it.

The drive is under warranty, and I should get a replacement by the end
of the week.

My experience has been that about 20% of new hdd's that I have
installed were bad out of the box or went bad in the first hour.

W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I think it's safe to say that when one cannot see a HD under My
Computers, the HD is dead. I confirmed that by taking the drive to a
local computer store, and it took about five minutes to prove it.

The drive is under warranty, and I should get a replacement by the end
of the week.

Considering the history of the drive, do you think
it was insertion in the tray that killed it. Like
"hot insertion" ?

Was the drive working immediately before ?

I'd probably put the next one in the tray with
the power off. Then power up and test the replacement.

Paul

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:23:36 -0600, "Paul in Houston TX"
wrote in article ...

W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I think it's safe to say that when one cannot see a HD under My
Computers, the HD is dead. I confirmed that by taking the drive to a
local computer store, and it took about five minutes to prove it.

The drive is under warranty, and I should get a replacement by the end
of the week.

My experience has been that about 20% of new hdd's that I have
installed were bad out of the box or went bad in the first hour.

You must have the worst luck with technology ever. I deal with dozens
of systems a month, each with multiple drives, each requiring the
addition of a new, 3rd party drive, and the out-of-box failure rate
I've seen for hard drives is well under 1%.

--
Zaphod

Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:23:36 -0600, Paul in Houston TX
wrote:


My experience has been that about 20% of new hdd's that I have
installed were bad out of the box or went bad in the first hour.


You've perhaps installed a lot more drives than I have, but my
experience has been nothing like that. I've installed perhaps 2-3
dozen over the years and none of them has ever been bad out of the box
or gone bad in the first hour.

On 11/12/2013 7:45 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:23:36 -0600, "Paul in Houston TX"
wrote in ...

W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I think it's safe to say that when one cannot see a HD under My
Computers, the HD is dead. I confirmed that by taking the drive to a
local computer store, and it took about five minutes to prove it.

The drive is under warranty, and I should get a replacement by the end
of the week.

My experience has been that about 20% of new hdd's that I have
installed were bad out of the box or went bad in the first hour.

You must have the worst luck with technology ever. I deal with dozens
of systems a month, each with multiple drives, each requiring the
addition of a new, 3rd party drive, and the out-of-box failure rate
I've seen for hard drives is well under 1%.

I've worked on hundred of machines and I could see how some could have a
lot of problems with drives and some probably won't.

Some models were nothing but trouble. One of the worst I ever came
across were those Maxtor 80MB 3.5 HD. No, they didn't usually fail right
out of the box, but sometime like a year or so, a day will come that the
whole drive becomes totally unreadable without any previous warnings.

I read somewhere that many manufactures who discover a problem with a
given type of HD. Will unload them as OEM drives with little or no
warrantee. The good ones they will sell at retail with the good
warranties. And I believe there is some truth in that story. As I have
noticed that OEM drives tend to have a higher failure rate. That isn't
to say that all OEM drives are crap, as some are very good and
dependable as well.

I could see this happening. As let's say a manufacture learns that about
20% of a given lot will have a short life. But since they are mass
produced, there isn't a good way to weed out the ones that will have an
early retirement. So just sell off the whole lot at a huge discount and
offer little to nothing on a warrantee. Now they are off of the hook and
it is now someone else's problem.

Then there are portable devices and laptops mounted in vehicles. Any
hard drive that gets moved around while they are running is just asking
for trouble as far as I am concerned. Sure they are making them better
and better against shock and vibrations, But you just can't beat a SSD
for shock and vibration protection.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center

On 11/10/2013 11:27 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 7:03 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/10/2013 07:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??





Drives usually come not partitioned.

Use disk management to partition and format the drive
Not possible if the drive cannot be seen.





An unpartitioned drive will NOT be seen in Windows Explorer, you need
to use disk management.


If disk management does not see it then you may have it jumpered wrong...
does it show up OK in the bios?