Task Manager for windows 8.1?

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:36:00 -0500, Paul wrote:

Albert wrote:
Hi all,

I'm trying to get Task Manager for Windows 8.1 and I'm not having any
luck at it. I was assuming that it came bundled but I can't find it
anywhere. One time I found a download at Microsoft but I had to have
had a Microsoft account which I do the only problem is when I try to
go to my Microsoft account by password won't work. I've never had task
manager before. Would it be helpful?

Albert
(make it S instead of Z to email me


Windows 8 Task Manager.
You can use this one for monitoring or killing programs.

http://everythingsurface.org/wp-cont...sk-manager.jpg

Windows 8 Task Scheduler.
This is for when you want that backup to run at 3AM.
That sort of thing. In Linux/Unix, the equivalent
would be a "cron job". In Windows, this is usually
a pain to set up, because of the need to use
a particular username and password. For a new
user, typically they have to try over and over
again, to get their first one working right.

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-conten...-scheduler.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron

I mention those two different things, just to make sure
we're talking about the same thing.

*******

One with some similarity to Task Manager, is Resource Monitor.

You can try "resmon" as the program name, or this article
recommends you can also try "perfmon /res".

http://trevorsullivan.net/2012/10/15...ource-monitor/

This is a picture of Resource Monitor. It gives slightly different
information views, than Task Manager does. You can watch how
fast a disk drive is going here. Or a network transfer. As well
as other things.

http://trevorsullivan.net/wp-content...e-Monitor1.png

Paul

OK, as it turns out I have two Task Managers, the one that was on my
computer originally that I couldn't find until I went to Start and did
the down arrow and found it in the (Apps by Name) section. That was
after I had gone into Windows Store and found Task Manager as a free
download and installed it. So now I have two. As far as URLs are
concerned I did everything in search on the right-hand side popout.

Albert
(make it S instead of Z to email me

Paul wrote:
Neil Gould wrote:
Paul wrote:
(snip)
Note that, in Windows 8, Task Manager is poorly implemented.
You can actually lose control of the computer, and be unable
to manipulate the interface on Task Manager to do anything
to regain control of the computer.

What does one have to do to replicate this experience? I've only
tapped into task manager a couple of times in Win8.1, and didn't
have a problem, but I may have just not come up with the right
combination of actions to get it to misbehave.

I used the NeatVideo plugin, to run the system out of
Pool Memory. It took 20 hours to get there. Suddenly,
Task Manager was using 35% of CPU cycles (presumably,
as it probed Pool Memory and juggled something). I
could not operate *any* controls on Task Manager. The
machine was effectively frozen and useless. Task Manager
was sitting there on the screen, and I couldn't do anything.
I wanted to kill NeatVideo, like I could when I did an identical
experiment on WinXP. So with WinXP, I could still recover
from the incident, without having to use the power button.
Sad.

If you look carefully at Windows 8, you'll notice it
"holds some cycles in reserve". As near as I can determine,
those cycles help Task Manager remain usable, amongst other
things. Since the new Task Manager has no privileged position
on the system, the instant something does manage to really
peg the CPU, you're screwed. Unlike WinXP, where Task Manager is
quite different from the other applications. I don't
know the technical details of WinXP Task Manager, like
whether it runs in Ring Zero, has static resources allocated
to it, or what other tricks it might use. All I can say
as a user, is more often, I can "escape" using the
WinXP Task Manager.

The only thing I have here that will "lock" WinXP, is
when playing a 3D game, and the video driver dies in a
weird way. Then you get looping sound, and the
keyboard stops working. I acknowledge that's an issue
with WinXP. But to have a non-game lock up my Win8
OS is just pathetic. That one event, got Win8 demoted.

If Microsoft can fix that, I'll consider plugging in
the Windows 8 hard drive again.

Hmm. Is this "NeatVideo plugin" written for Vista and above, or is it an XP
applet? Beginning with Vista, there is a fundamental change in how resources
are allocated, and it can sometimes trip up pre-Vista apps and cause a
system lock-up that only a hard reboot will fix.
--
best regards,

Neil

R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Albert.

Like Char Jackson, "I wonder what you installed, since Task Manager
was already installed. Can
you provide a download link for what you assumed was Task Manager?"

Task Manager has been an integral part of every version of Windows
since at least WinXP. It does not need to be installed, since it is
just there.

IIRC, Task Manager was an integral part of Windows since 3.x. I could check,
but it's of little importance today. ;-)
--
best regards,

Neil

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:11:46 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:38:18 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:35:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

the last tow or three days

I guess I should have written "the last tow or theer days" :-)

Style points for consistency. :-)

Yes, W8 has Task Manager, accessible in the usual places.

Yes. We need to figure out why Albert can't find it. Or maybe we don't,
I have no idea :-)

I really think I have used it recently in W8, I was just pussyfooting
around the issue when I expressed doubt.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:29:54 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

Yes. We need to figure out why Albert can't find it. Or maybe we don't,
I have no idea :-)

In a reply I read after posting the above, I see that Albert has now
seen it.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Keith Nuttle has written on 11/22/2013 9:50 PM:
On 11/22/2013 8:38 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:35:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

the last tow or three days

I guess I should have written "the last tow or theer days" :-)

I am confused by the discussion of the lack of a task manager in Windows
8.1. While different and it has more information you will find a task
manager by right clicking on the toolbar in the Desktop. This procedure
is quite similar to finding the task manager in Windows XP.

You can also find the task manager by looking in the apps in the icon
menu. You know the one that MS put into Windows 8.1 to add
advertisements to your computer ;-)

Did anyone try Ctrl-Shift-Esc?

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:06:29 -0500, Juan Wei wrote:

Keith Nuttle has written on 11/22/2013 9:50 PM:
On 11/22/2013 8:38 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:35:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

the last tow or three days

I guess I should have written "the last tow or theer days" :-)

I am confused by the discussion of the lack of a task manager in Windows
8.1. While different and it has more information you will find a task
manager by right clicking on the toolbar in the Desktop. This procedure
is quite similar to finding the task manager in Windows XP.

You can also find the task manager by looking in the apps in the icon
menu. You know the one that MS put into Windows 8.1 to add
advertisements to your computer ;-)

Did anyone try Ctrl-Shift-Esc?

Message-ID:

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:06:29 -0500, Juan Wei
wrote:

Keith Nuttle has written on 11/22/2013 9:50 PM:
On 11/22/2013 8:38 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:35:45 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

the last tow or three days

I guess I should have written "the last tow or theer days" :-)

I am confused by the discussion of the lack of a task manager in Windows
8.1. While different and it has more information you will find a task
manager by right clicking on the toolbar in the Desktop. This procedure
is quite similar to finding the task manager in Windows XP.

You can also find the task manager by looking in the apps in the icon
menu. You know the one that MS put into Windows 8.1 to add
advertisements to your computer ;-)

Did anyone try Ctrl-Shift-Esc?


Yes, often. And it's been posted here many times.

But since I usually have the mouse in my hand, I usually right-click
on the task bar.




--
Ken Blake