System Reserved Disk Problem

I am running Windows 8.1 and on a:
Dell Optiplex 990, Intel I7 340, 16Gb,
C-Drive 160Gb SSD, system
E-Drive 750Gb, data
1st USB Drive: Local Disk (H)
2nd USB Drive: Local Disk (K)

System Reserved D-Drive that looks like when I click on it: (Have Know Idea
What This Means???
$UpgDrv$
Local Disk (C) - Shortcut
Local Disk (F) - Shortcut (2)
Local Disk (F) - Shortcut
System Reserved (E) - Shortcut

Now my Problem:
I'd like to clone my C-Drive to either one of the USB Drives but can't.
Acronis error: Cannot Clone disk...

Attaching any USB drive just adds an other System Reserved drive???:
See (H), (K) above, I can't clone my C-Drive to any of the USB drives.

Any help please?.

C-Drive is 150GB SSD
USB drives are 320 and 500Gb respectively. Neither works.
I thought I read somewhere there are problems cloning a regular disk to an
SSD
or maybe it was vice-versa???

On 12/7/2013 3:42 AM, Artreid wrote:
C-Drive is 150GB SSD
USB drives are 320 and 500Gb respectively. Neither works.
I thought I read somewhere there are problems cloning a regular disk to
an SSD
or maybe it was vice-versa???


I've had problems going to a USB drive. Also, to a SATA drive, although
less trouble than a USB drive. Part of the issue seems to be using AMD
chip drivers instead of the MS generic ones. Another issue was that the
process expects to use a hidden system area usually on the system
drive that may or may not be present. (Win 7)
Strangely, I had less trouble cloning to an SSD drive on an XP
"netbook", and a Vista laptop than a win 7 32 P/C that's slightly newer.

Charlie+ wrote:
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 03:42:11 -0500, "Artreid"
wrote as underneath :

C-Drive is 150GB SSD
USB drives are 320 and 500Gb respectively. Neither works.
I thought I read somewhere there are problems cloning a regular disk to an
SSD
or maybe it was vice-versa???

Sorry - not tried to clone an SSD. But I certainly like you would have
tried with Acronis. Why not try with some of the free bkup/clone progs
around and see if you get the same result? C+

You can try Macrium Reflect Free. Cloning to a smaller partition
is supported. As long as the target has enough space for the files,
you can do it. So if you had a 250GB C: partition with 26GB of files,
and just bought an 80GB SSD, you could make a 40GB C: clone holding 26GB
of files on the target. In that case, the 40GB target barely
has room for the OS.

http://support.macrium.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4211

Check "How To..." then "Clone a Disk" for the details. This
is the web help that accompanies the product.

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/reflect_v5.htm

They also discuss alignment. An existing Win7 or Win8 is likely
offset 1MB from the MBR, so the alignment is already SSD compatible.
If you were bringing a WinXP data partition to a Win8 system, you
might fiddle with this.

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/Partition_Alignment.htm

The download for Reflect Free, is bottom-left here. Take
care not to accept any toolbars.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

That's because the download link is on CNET. At one time,
this download was clean, but the last time I looked, it could
be one of those toolbar laden processes. I do not see a
"direct download link"

http://download.cnet.com/Macrium-Ref...=dl&tag=button

The funny thing is, when the Macrium program attempts to
update itself (with an update dialog presented), the download
comes from the Macrium site. So in some cases, you're effectively
downloading twice, and the Macrium folks aren't saving any money.

*******

Googling around, the $UpgDrv$ appears to be something
related to Windows upgrading process. Why the stuff is
left there after that is finished, is an unknown. If those
were preventing normal software operation, I'd consider
deleting them (carefully). Or moving them into a folder
for "Safe Keeping". I don't think I've seen them here. Yet.

They appear to record partition letters for some reason. As
if that couldn't be extracted from the old registry... There
is a registry entry for MountPoints related stuff, including
a list of drive letters.

Paul

Paul said on 12/8/2013 10:47 AM:
Charlie+ wrote:
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 03:42:11 -0500, "Artreid"
wrote as underneath :

C-Drive is 150GB SSD
USB drives are 320 and 500Gb respectively. Neither works.
I thought I read somewhere there are problems cloning a regular disk
to an SSD
or maybe it was vice-versa???

Sorry - not tried to clone an SSD. But I certainly like you would have
tried with Acronis. Why not try with some of the free bkup/clone progs
around and see if you get the same result? C+

You can try Macrium Reflect Free. Cloning to a smaller partition
is supported. As long as the target has enough space for the files,
you can do it. So if you had a 250GB C: partition with 26GB of files,
and just bought an 80GB SSD, you could make a 40GB C: clone holding 26GB
of files on the target. In that case, the 40GB target barely
has room for the OS.

http://support.macrium.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4211

Check "How To..." then "Clone a Disk" for the details. This
is the web help that accompanies the product.

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/reflect_v5.htm

They also discuss alignment. An existing Win7 or Win8 is likely
offset 1MB from the MBR, so the alignment is already SSD compatible.
If you were bringing a WinXP data partition to a Win8 system, you
might fiddle with this.

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/Partition_Alignment.htm

The download for Reflect Free, is bottom-left here. Take
care not to accept any toolbars.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

That's because the download link is on CNET. At one time,
this download was clean, but the last time I looked, it could
be one of those toolbar laden processes. I do not see a
"direct download link"

http://download.cnet.com/Macrium-Ref...=dl&tag=button


The funny thing is, when the Macrium program attempts to
update itself (with an update dialog presented), the download
comes from the Macrium site. So in some cases, you're effectively
downloading twice, and the Macrium folks aren't saving any money.

*******

Googling around, the $UpgDrv$ appears to be something
related to Windows upgrading process. Why the stuff is
left there after that is finished, is an unknown. If those
were preventing normal software operation, I'd consider
deleting them (carefully). Or moving them into a folder
for "Safe Keeping". I don't think I've seen them here. Yet.

They appear to record partition letters for some reason. As
if that couldn't be extracted from the old registry... There
is a registry entry for MountPoints related stuff, including
a list of drive letters.

Paul



IIRC:
EaseUS Todo Backup is another backup program that you can at least make
a boot cd, create an image of original drive, swap drives and then place
that image on the new drive all from the boot CD.
It's not "clone" but yet it is, just the hard way.

I'm not sure it has any clone features. I only used it for a few months
as backup images.

On 12/08/2013, Big Al posted:
Paul said on 12/8/2013 10:47 AM:
Charlie+ wrote:
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 03:42:11 -0500, "Artreid"
wrote as underneath :

C-Drive is 150GB SSD
USB drives are 320 and 500Gb respectively. Neither works.
I thought I read somewhere there are problems cloning a regular disk
to an SSD
or maybe it was vice-versa???

Sorry - not tried to clone an SSD. But I certainly like you would have
tried with Acronis. Why not try with some of the free bkup/clone progs
around and see if you get the same result? C+

You can try Macrium Reflect Free. Cloning to a smaller partition
is supported. As long as the target has enough space for the files,
you can do it. So if you had a 250GB C: partition with 26GB of files,
and just bought an 80GB SSD, you could make a 40GB C: clone holding 26GB
of files on the target. In that case, the 40GB target barely
has room for the OS.

http://support.macrium.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4211

Check "How To..." then "Clone a Disk" for the details. This
is the web help that accompanies the product.

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/reflect_v5.htm

They also discuss alignment. An existing Win7 or Win8 is likely
offset 1MB from the MBR, so the alignment is already SSD compatible.
If you were bringing a WinXP data partition to a Win8 system, you
might fiddle with this.

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/Partition_Alignment.htm

The download for Reflect Free, is bottom-left here. Take
care not to accept any toolbars.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

That's because the download link is on CNET. At one time,
this download was clean, but the last time I looked, it could
be one of those toolbar laden processes. I do not see a
"direct download link"

http://download.cnet.com/Macrium-Ref...=dl&tag=button


The funny thing is, when the Macrium program attempts to
update itself (with an update dialog presented), the download
comes from the Macrium site. So in some cases, you're effectively
downloading twice, and the Macrium folks aren't saving any money.

*******

Googling around, the $UpgDrv$ appears to be something
related to Windows upgrading process. Why the stuff is
left there after that is finished, is an unknown. If those
were preventing normal software operation, I'd consider
deleting them (carefully). Or moving them into a folder
for "Safe Keeping". I don't think I've seen them here. Yet.

They appear to record partition letters for some reason. As
if that couldn't be extracted from the old registry... There
is a registry entry for MountPoints related stuff, including
a list of drive letters.

Paul



IIRC:
EaseUS Todo Backup is another backup program that you can at least make a
boot cd, create an image of original drive, swap drives and then place that
image on the new drive all from the boot CD.
It's not "clone" but yet it is, just the hard way.

I'm not sure it has any clone features. I only used it for a few months as
backup images.

In the past I have used the free version of EaseUS to clone drives, or
at least that's what they called it. It was a while ago, so there's a
chance that the current version is different.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)