Windows Defender and Norton Antivirus?

Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus. I'm running on Win7 64bit and have Norton
Antivirus latest updated version running in live mode and have latest updated
version of Malwarebytes which I run full scans manually on about a two week
basis.

Today, I had some notice from Windows Defender and Norton Antivirus and had to
manually delete them. I ran the full scan with Malwarebytes and no problems.
Norton did it's normal scan and no problem. Probably is a conflict with Windows
Defender.

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

On 20/11/2015 23:31, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus. I'm running on Win7 64bit and have Norton
Antivirus latest updated version running in live mode and have latest updated
version of Malwarebytes which I run full scans manually on about a two week
basis.

Today, I had some notice from Windows Defender and Norton Antivirus and had to
manually delete them. I ran the full scan with Malwarebytes and no problems.
Norton did it's normal scan and no problem. Probably is a conflict with Windows
Defender.

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec


Have a read here, Charlie

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/p...0-0b947b14f342

I'm off to my bed! ;-)

wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus. I'm running on Win7 64bit and have Norton
Antivirus latest updated version running in live mode and have latest updated
version of Malwarebytes which I run full scans manually on about a two week
basis.

Today, I had some notice from Windows Defender and Norton Antivirus and had to
manually delete them. I ran the full scan with Malwarebytes and no problems.
Norton did it's normal scan and no problem. Probably is a conflict with Windows
Defender.

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

Defender is more of a spyware finder, not a virus finder.
If it were my computer and I wanted a virus shield I would delete Norton
and install Microsoft Security Essentials.

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 19:38:16 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2015-11-20 18:31, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus.[...]

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

Defender is the anti-malware program that comes with Windows. It's tuned
on by default. It's above average in quality, about the same level as
Norton. Doesn't matter much which you run, but you should have only one
anti-malware running. So choose. Me, I'd pick Defender over Norton, but
there are many programs than are better than either of those. Go
alt.comp.anti-virus, and you'll get lots of advice. probably more than
you want. ;-)

To disable Defender, go to the control panel.

I go to Control Panel, but where do I go from there to find Defender?

On 11/20/2015 6:31 PM, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus. I'm running on Win7 64bit and have Norton
Antivirus latest updated version running in live mode and have latest updated
version of Malwarebytes which I run full scans manually on about a two week
basis.

Today, I had some notice from Windows Defender and Norton Antivirus and had to
manually delete them. I ran the full scan with Malwarebytes and no problems.
Norton did it's normal scan and no problem. Probably is a conflict with Windows
Defender.

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec


For all that type of program one should, in each program, exclude the
quarantine folders of the other programs so scans do not detect or get
confused by what has already been removed,

MS Security Essentials and MS Windows Defender are essentially the same
program under different names which depend on which Windows version you
are running.

Immunet may be run at the same time as other programs of this type but
only one of the others should be active at one time. I run Immunet and
MSSE at the same time on Win 7 SP-1 and every night, using an unattended
batch, run a scan with either Malwarebytes, MSSE, or Ad-Aware.

On 11/20/2015 9:44 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 11/20/2015 6:31 PM, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between
Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus. I'm running on Win7 64bit and have Norton
Antivirus latest updated version running in live mode and have latest
updated
version of Malwarebytes which I run full scans manually on about a two
week
basis.

Today, I had some notice from Windows Defender and Norton Antivirus
and had to
manually delete them. I ran the full scan with Malwarebytes and no
problems.
Norton did it's normal scan and no problem. Probably is a conflict
with Windows
Defender.

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict
with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec


For all that type of program one should, in each program, exclude the
quarantine folders of the other programs so scans do not detect or get
confused by what has already been removed,

MS Security Essentials and MS Windows Defender are essentially the same
program under different names which depend on which Windows version you
are running.

Immunet may be run at the same time as other programs of this type but
only one of the others should be active at one time. I run Immunet and
MSSE at the same time on Win 7 SP-1 and every night, using an unattended
batch, run a scan with either Malwarebytes, MSSE, or Ad-Aware.

and an Immunet scan one night

Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-20 18:31, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between
Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus.[...]

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict
with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

Defender is the anti-malware program that comes with Windows. It's tuned
on by default. It's above average in quality, about the same level as
Norton. Doesn't matter much which you run, but you should have only one
anti-malware running. So choose. Me, I'd pick Defender over Norton, but
there are many programs than are better than either of those. Go
alt.comp.anti-virus, and you'll get lots of advice. probably more than
you want. ;-)

To disable Defender, go to the control panel.

Uh...No. Defender and Norton are not the same level.
Defender is an antimalware application unlike Norton which provides both
Antivirus and Antimalware.
- the wiser choice when comparing Defender and Norton is to disable
Defender in favor of Norton - Antivirus protection is better than no
antivirus protection.

--
....winston
msft mvp windows experience

Zaidy036 wrote:


MS Security Essentials and MS Windows Defender are essentially the same
program under different names which depend on which Windows version you
are running.

MSE is an Antimalware/Antivirus program for Vista and Windows 7
Windows Defender is an Antimalware/Antivirus for Windows 8, 8.1, and 10

Windows Defender on Windows 7 (the op's system) is only antimalware,
thus not essentially the same as MSE.


--
....winston
msft mvp windows experience

....winston? wrote on 11/21/2015 :
Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-20 18:31, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between
Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus.[...]

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict
with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

Defender is the anti-malware program that comes with Windows. It's tuned
on by default. It's above average in quality, about the same level as
Norton. Doesn't matter much which you run, but you should have only one
anti-malware running. So choose. Me, I'd pick Defender over Norton, but
there are many programs than are better than either of those. Go
alt.comp.anti-virus, and you'll get lots of advice. probably more than
you want. ;-)

To disable Defender, go to the control panel.

Uh...No. Defender and Norton are not the same level.
Defender is an antimalware application unlike Norton which provides both
Antivirus and Antimalware.
- the wiser choice when comparing Defender and Norton is to disable
Defender in favor of Norton - Antivirus protection is better than no
antivirus protection.

Which 'Defender' are you talking about? It has AV and AM now but it
didn't used to have AV.

FromTheRafters wrote:
...winston? wrote on 11/21/2015 :
Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-20 18:31, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between
Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus.[...]

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict
with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

Defender is the anti-malware program that comes with Windows. It's tuned
on by default. It's above average in quality, about the same level as
Norton. Doesn't matter much which you run, but you should have only one
anti-malware running. So choose. Me, I'd pick Defender over Norton, but
there are many programs than are better than either of those. Go
alt.comp.anti-virus, and you'll get lots of advice. probably more than
you want. ;-)

To disable Defender, go to the control panel.

Uh...No. Defender and Norton are not the same level.
Defender is an antimalware application unlike Norton which provides
both Antivirus and Antimalware.
- the wiser choice when comparing Defender and Norton is to disable
Defender in favor of Norton - Antivirus protection is better than no
antivirus protection.

Which 'Defender' are you talking about? It has AV and AM now but it
didn't used to have AV.

The op asked about Win7 thus the one that didn't have an AV.

--
....winston
msft mvp windows experience

on 11/21/2015, ...winston? supposed :
FromTheRafters wrote:
...winston? wrote on 11/21/2015 :
Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-20 18:31, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between
Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus.[...]

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict
with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

Defender is the anti-malware program that comes with Windows. It's tuned
on by default. It's above average in quality, about the same level as
Norton. Doesn't matter much which you run, but you should have only one
anti-malware running. So choose. Me, I'd pick Defender over Norton, but
there are many programs than are better than either of those. Go
alt.comp.anti-virus, and you'll get lots of advice. probably more than
you want. ;-)

To disable Defender, go to the control panel.

Uh...No. Defender and Norton are not the same level.
Defender is an antimalware application unlike Norton which provides
both Antivirus and Antimalware.
- the wiser choice when comparing Defender and Norton is to disable
Defender in favor of Norton - Antivirus protection is better than no
antivirus protection.

Which 'Defender' are you talking about? It has AV and AM now but it
didn't used to have AV.

The op asked about Win7 thus the one that didn't have an AV.

I understand now. Windows Defender without the AV component shouldn't
conflict with an actual AV though, it's usually the on-access (on open
or on close) file hooking that creates the conflict. The OP wasn't
clear about which program complained.

FromTheRafters wrote:
on 11/21/2015, ...winston? supposed :
FromTheRafters wrote:
...winston? wrote on 11/21/2015 :
Wolf K wrote:
On 2015-11-20 18:31, wrote:
Need some info? I had a problem today and it appears to be between
Windows
Defender and Norton Antivirus.[...]

What is Windows Defender and is it really needed and does it conflict
with other
Antivirus programs. How do you disable Windows Defender?

Thanks for any insights/and suggestions.
charliec

Defender is the anti-malware program that comes with Windows. It's
tuned
on by default. It's above average in quality, about the same level as
Norton. Doesn't matter much which you run, but you should have only
one
anti-malware running. So choose. Me, I'd pick Defender over Norton,
but
there are many programs than are better than either of those. Go
alt.comp.anti-virus, and you'll get lots of advice. probably more than
you want. ;-)

To disable Defender, go to the control panel.

Uh...No. Defender and Norton are not the same level.
Defender is an antimalware application unlike Norton which provides
both Antivirus and Antimalware.
- the wiser choice when comparing Defender and Norton is to disable
Defender in favor of Norton - Antivirus protection is better than no
antivirus protection.

Which 'Defender' are you talking about? It has AV and AM now but it
didn't used to have AV.

The op asked about Win7 thus the one that didn't have an AV.

I understand now. Windows Defender without the AV component shouldn't
conflict with an actual AV though, it's usually the on-access (on open
or on close) file hooking that creates the conflict. The OP wasn't clear
about which program complained.

Agree, the original post wasn't entirely clear nor was the NAV version
provided.
Iirc,by design Win7 and later compatible NAV versions automatically
disable Defender.

The op hasn't returned but has received sufficient info to address
(disable Defender with NAV present) the issue if Defender and NAV are
both running resident.

--
....winston
msft mvp windows experience