Ad-Blocker

I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the
web page does not display well.
Punishment I guess.

I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc.

So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but
not show up in add-ons.

Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an
ad-blocker and display quickly and properly.

WIN7USER wrote:
I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the
web page does not display well.
Punishment I guess.

I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc.

So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but
not show up in add-ons.

Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an
ad-blocker and display quickly and properly.


See the "Enable Javascript" ? Advertisers *love* that stuff.
This is the first English dialog I could find in a picture,
to speed you on your way.

http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png

Paul

On 12/28/2016 05:06 PM, Paul wrote:

[snip]

http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png


Paul

That looks like an option Firefox hasn't had for several versions now.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

Wouldn't it be funny if Elvis came back instead of Jesus?

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/28/2016 05:06 PM, Paul wrote:

[snip]

http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png



Paul

That looks like an option Firefox hasn't had for several versions now.


I just wanted a picture with the word "Javascript" in it.

And the notion that you check the "Preferences" in an
application if it doesn't behave.

Paul

"Paul" wrote

| See the "Enable Javascript" ? Advertisers *love* that stuff.
| This is the first English dialog I could find in a picture,
| to speed you on your way.
|
|
http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png
|

FF no longer has javascript settings except
in about:config or with the Settings Sanity
extension. And WIN7USER is talking about
blocked ads, not script. How is he to make
any sense at all of your post?

"WIN7USER" wrote

| I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc.
|

You're *sure* there are no add-ons of any kind?
If Pale Moon is fine that implies the problem is not
a firewall or a HOSTS file, so you must be doing
something to block ads in FF.
The only idea I can think of is to compare your
settings in each browser. PM is essentially the
same thing as FF.

Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote

| See the "Enable Javascript" ? Advertisers *love* that stuff.
| This is the first English dialog I could find in a picture,
| to speed you on your way.
|
|
http://www.vanseodesign.com/blog/wp-...javascript.png
|

FF no longer has javascript settings except
in about:config or with the Settings Sanity
extension. And WIN7USER is talking about
blocked ads, not script. How is he to make
any sense at all of your post?

Turning off Javascript is the equivalent
of "blocking adverts" to a web monkey.

Paul

WIN7USER wrote:
I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the
web page does not display well.
Punishment I guess.

I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc.

So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but
not show up in add-ons.

Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an
ad-blocker and display quickly and properly.


You can find some simple test pages.

https://www.essentialobjects.com/JSCookieTest.htm

This mouse-based test does stuff using Javascript.

http://dunnbypaul.net/js_mouse/

Or, you can do some more extensive cookie testing,
with the kind of cookies that abusive websites use.

http://samy.pl/evercookie/

Paul

"Paul" wrote

| Turning off Javascript is the equivalent
| of "blocking adverts" to a web monkey.
|

Not necessarily. I routinely disable javascript and
don't get messages. Most sites are probably checking
whether a remote image is loading. In any case,
there's no indication that the OP has disable
javascript, which takes some doing these days
in FF.

On 12/28/2016 09:32 PM, Mayayana wrote:

[snip]

Not necessarily. I routinely disable javascript and
don't get messages. Most sites are probably checking
whether a remote image is loading. In any case,
there's no indication that the OP has disable
javascript, which takes some doing these days
in FF.


I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my
page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox
extension.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

" Teaching children to pray encourages them to ask for whatever they
want instead of working for it. Self-reliance and deity worship are
contradictory concepts."

"WIN7USER" wrote in message
news
I go to web pages with FireFox and it complains about ad-blocker and the
web page does not display well.
Punishment I guess.

I checked Firefox for ad blockers but cannot find it in add-ons etc.

So what other SW might I have that will do ad blocking on FireFox but not
show up in add-ons.

Note. I installed PaleMoon and the web pages do not complain about an
ad-blocker and display quickly and properly.


It sounds like Ad Block Plus is installed. That's shown under Add-ons
Extensions (FF 50.1.0).
You're getting the same message I get with it, but then, probably most
ad-blockers use the same one.
Is there an option from within the message to "Allow {this site}"? I've seen
that also with ADP.
--

SC Tom

"SC Tom" wrote

| It sounds like Ad Block Plus is installed. That's shown under Add-ons
| Extensions (FF 50.1.0).
| You're getting the same message I get with it, but then, probably most
| ad-blockers use the same one.

Many sites now have such a message built in.
If you view pages with no style you'll see that
many commercial pages include a stock message
that's designed to show when ads are blocked.
(That's another reason that I question the role
of disabling script: I normally disable script and
I never see those messages because they're
hidden by CSS and require script to dynamically
make them visible. Anything dynamic, whether
it's checking to see if you've loaded ads or
showing you a nag message to say that you
should load ads, requires script to work.)

I wonder whether ad-blocking extensions are really
a good approach, especially now with the whitelisting
of "good" advertisers. I use Pale Moon and Firefox.
In PM I disable all 3rd-party images. In FF I don't.
In FF I have NoScript so that I can only enable script
as needed. I also have a modest HOSTS file that
blocks the major trackers and ad purveyors. I rarely
see an ad in either browser. I'm making no direct effort
to block them. I started the HOSTS file mainly for
privacy. (And now it's even more important to block
large ad companies for security, as ads are being used
to do driveby malware downloads.) I have no problem
with static ad images that are actually on a webpage.
But such things are now nearly nonexistent, so I never
see ads. The industry has developed in such a way that
very few sites are actually showing ads on their pages.
*The ads are not on the visited websites.* Rather, the
pages have links or script snippets that allow big ad
companies like Google/Doubleclick to spy on visitors, ID
them and insert a "targetted" ad -- all happening completely
separate from the actual page/site being visited. Giant
spyware/adware companies are, in effect, hijacking the
webpage before it gets to the browser. So it seems
more realistic to me to deal with what the ads are rather
than blocking them as though they were embedded images.
In the old days an ad blocker had to recognize hundreds
of typical HTML snippets that indicated an embedded
ad image. These days one can just block Google/
Doubleclick in HOSTS and a large percentage of ads
(and spyware tracking) disappear. Add a few more
domains, like scorecardresearch, atdmt, etc and nearly
all spyware/adware is stopped. Yet actual honest ads,
that are actually on the visited webpage, are not
hindered. The one pesky sleaze entity that's hard to
avoid is Akamai, which acts as a rental server for many
big sites and began, a few years ago, to also sell a
spyware service. It's essentially a man-in-the-middle
surveillance attack:

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/11/...ee-technology/

I have less than 300 entries in my HOSTS file. But I
also use Acrylic DNS, which acts as an intermediary
on DNS calls and has its own HOSTS file that allows
wildcards. So while the average person is hounded by
numerous GoogleReich assaults at nearly every webpage,
it can pretty much all be stopped with just the following:

127.0.0.1 *.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 *.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 *.googlecommerce.com
127.0.0.1 *.scorecardresearch.com
127.0.0.1 1e100.com
127.0.0.1 1e100.net
127.0.0.1 *.1e100.com
127.0.0.1 *.1e100.net
127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 *.doubleclick.com
127.0.0.1 *.googletagservices.com
127.0.0.1 *.googletagmanager.com
127.0.0.1 *.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 fonts.googleapis.com
127.0.0.1 googleadapis.l.google.com
127.0.0.1 ssl.gstatic.com
127.0.0.1 plusone.google.com
127.0.0.1 cse.google.com
127.0.0.1 www.google.com/cse

If people look at the source code of pages
they visit they'll see that the online ad
industry and datamining business are mostly
run by a very small number of companies.

"Mark Lloyd" wrote

| I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my
| page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox
| extension.
|

I've always thought it odd browsers don't
have a button on the toolbar to do exactly
that.
I guess in earlier times script was mostly
used for "dazzle" and pages were designed
to not depend on it. And these days the Internet
is turning into an interactive TV shopping
station. For that, script is necessary and the
browser makers are cooperating by making it
harder, rather than easier, to toggle it. The
average person, unaware of extensions and
obscure browser settings, has no chance of
even knowing what they're allowing to run in
the browser.

On 12/29/2016 08:16 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Mark Lloyd" wrote

| I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my
| page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox
| extension.
|

I've always thought it odd browsers don't
have a button on the toolbar to do exactly
that.
I guess in earlier times script was mostly
used for "dazzle" and pages were designed
to not depend on it. And these days the Internet
is turning into an interactive TV shopping
station. For that, script is necessary and the
browser makers are cooperating by making it
harder, rather than easier, to toggle it. The
average person, unaware of extensions and
obscure browser settings, has no chance of
even knowing what they're allowing to run in
the browser.

That last thing reminds me of why I found the NoScript extension (which
seemed a good idea) to be unusable.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

" Teaching children to pray encourages them to ask for whatever they
want instead of working for it. Self-reliance and deity worship are
contradictory concepts."

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:16:24 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

"Mark Lloyd" wrote

| I need to enable/disable Javascript frequently, to test things on my
| page. I'm currently using the "Javascript Toggle On and Off" Firefox
| extension.
|

I've always thought it odd browsers don't
have a button on the toolbar to do exactly
that.

Here's one that was made earlier
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...don/quickjava/
It has buttons for 10 functions and each can be set to On or Off as the
'normal' state.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway