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4 more years. I mean, 4 more crashes.
On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? |
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On 06/13/2020 09:03 AM, micky wrote:
On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? Seems your problems are all over the place. I recently went through that puzzle with my old homebuilt Athlon pc, one failure after another. I found 3 bulging caps on the motherboard. Removed the hard drive, put it in an old Pentium 4 pc, and it's all fine again. Nothing is broken, nothing was lost*. *Almost. It's a dual-boot system. Linux is back, but Win98 is never going to run again. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky
wrote: On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. https://www.dropbox.com/h?_tk=web_le...eview=BSOD.png Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\ Start Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? |
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micky wrote:
On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? When you get a variety of errors, try a memory test. http://www.memtest.org # downloads are 50% down the web page You could also take a spare hard drive, install Windows 10 on it, and run for a few days with that setup. And see if it's still throwing errors. A driver error remains a possibility, but you'd think the errors would have a more consistent pattern if that was the case. Sometimes, if you use a DriverVerifier, just turning one of those on, stops the crashes. Which isn't desirable either, as it implies "forensics are useless" and you'll never get a real answer :-( Paul |
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On 6/13/20 1:10 PM, this is what micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky wrote: On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. https://www.dropbox.com/h?_tk=web_le...eview=BSOD.png Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? No good. You have to log in to see your pic. Put it on a public site. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 14:03:47 -0400, Big Al
wrote: On 6/13/20 1:10 PM, this is what micky wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky wrote: On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. Skip this: https://www.dropbox.com/h?_tk=web_le...eview=BSOD.png This instead: https://imgur.com/gallery/fbCSxuq The top line is pretty much like the 4th line except parameter one is different and the offset is a little different. I guess I never understood what dropbox is for. :-( Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\S tart Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? No good. You have to log in to see your pic. Put it on a public site. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:50:52 -0400, Paul
wrote: When you get a variety of errors, try a memory test. http://www.memtest.org # downloads are 50% down the web page I hae a little flashdrive with this on it. You could also take a spare hard drive, install Windows 10 on it, and run for a few days with that setup. And see if it's still throwing errors. A driver error remains a possibility, but you'd think the errors would have a more consistent pattern if that was the case. Sometimes, if you use a DriverVerifier, just turning one I read a little about DriverVerifier. I don't know why I never heard of it before if it's been around since win2000. But it looks like it causes as many problems as it solves. Anyhow, it's been working for 11 hours now with no problems. We shall see. of those on, stops the crashes. Which isn't desirable either, as it implies "forensics are useless" and you'll never get a real answer :-( Paul |
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:12:56 -0600, KenW wrote:
You didn't tell us what version of Win 10 you are using. I always change auto restart to Control Panel Advanced Startup and RecoverySettings and uncheck Auto Restart so I can see any errors. You should know that after these years you have been here KenW He probably knows to look in Control Panel - System - Advanced System Settings - Startup and Recovery - Settings... |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:13:15 -0600, KenW
wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:47:22 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 11:12:56 -0600, KenW wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky wrote: On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windo ws\Start Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? You didn't tell us what version of Win 10 you are using. I always change auto restart to Control Panel Advanced Startup and RecoverySettings and uncheck Auto Restart so I can see any errors. You should know that after these years you have been here He mentioned that he's using Nirsoft's BlueScreenView, which can regenerate that blue screen on demand. Like you, I disable auto restart, but that's only because I want to see that there was a crash. I know I can always go back and see the blue screen and its contents whenever I want. Blue Screen View looks for a folder of crashes unless they changed it. Win 10 just writes a file. KenW I'm not sure what your last line means but surely Nir has updated his program to work for win10. I finally posted on imgur a copy of the results. https://imgur.com/gallery/fbCSxuq I should have unhighlighted the top line but it is pretty much like the 4th line except parameter one is different and the offset is a little different. There is one line for each of my crashes except the one last week that has 3 lines. |
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:52:21 -0400, micky
wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:13:15 -0600, KenW wrote: Blue Screen View looks for a folder of crashes unless they changed it. Win 10 just writes a file. KenW I'm not sure what your last line means but surely Nir has updated his program to work for win10. BlueScreenView works on Win10, but you need to configure Win10 to work with BlueScreenView. Like Mechanic said, look in Control Panel - System - Advanced System Settings - Startup and Recovery - Settings... I believe the default debugging option might be Kernel Memory Dump. Nir suggests changing it to Small Memory Dump. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 10:29:23 -0500, Char
Jackson wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:52:21 -0400, micky wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:13:15 -0600, KenW wrote: Blue Screen View looks for a folder of crashes unless they changed it. Win 10 just writes a file. KenW I'm not sure what your last line means but surely Nir has updated his program to work for win10. BlueScreenView works on Win10, but you need to configure Win10 to work with BlueScreenView. Like Mechanic said, look in Control Panel - System - Advanced System Settings - Startup and Recovery - Settings... I believe the default debugging option might be Kernel Memory Dump. Nir suggests changing it to Small Memory Dump. I switched it to small memory dump If I had doen that earlier would different information have shown up in BlueScreenView. It seems like what is there now makes sense. If there is another crash, I'll see if the results look difdferent. AT any rate, I was on the phone during the crash and the other party wondered what the count-down noise was. I suppose it will take less time for a small dump than a kernel dump. |
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5 more crashes or freezes last night or this morning and yet now it's
been running well for over an hour. Whether or not this can be fixed by me, I'd still like to understand what sort of thing causes this to happen. One time on restart, the only words on the black screen were "Preparing Automatic Repair" but it stayed like that for a long time until I restarted. I figured if it needed Repair and it didn't run there was no chance it would work better, but a couple restarts later and it's working fine, at last for now. What is "Preparing Automatic Repair"? I used Speccy and one core was 175^ and the number was colored tan. The other core was 177^ and colored red, but a) In the past the computer ran fine with the temp just in the red zone, b) the temp goes down occaionsally. One time I heard the fan speed up for a minute. So is this heat and should I vacuum the insides? I tried to clean once before and it was so compact it was hard to do, but it didn't seem that dirty either. In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky wrote: On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\ Start Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? |
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micky wrote:
5 more crashes or freezes last night or this morning and yet now it's been running well for over an hour. Whether or not this can be fixed by me, I'd still like to understand what sort of thing causes this to happen. One time on restart, the only words on the black screen were "Preparing Automatic Repair" but it stayed like that for a long time until I restarted. I figured if it needed Repair and it didn't run there was no chance it would work better, but a couple restarts later and it's working fine, at last for now. What is "Preparing Automatic Repair"? I used Speccy and one core was 175^ and the number was colored tan. The other core was 177^ and colored red, but a) In the past the computer ran fine with the temp just in the red zone, b) the temp goes down occaionsally. One time I heard the fan speed up for a minute. So is this heat and should I vacuum the insides? I tried to clean once before and it was so compact it was hard to do, but it didn't seem that dirty either. Almico Speedfan can give details on temps. http://almico.com/sfdownload.php http://almico.com/speedfan452.exe Here's my Speedfan chart. https://i.postimg.cc/VkGHM3h6/speedfan-chart.gif The Speedfan graph is hard to read. I inverted the pane colors here with an image editor, but that really does not help all that much. I don't know how much Windows 10 "likes" programs like this. The Speedfan author developed a signed driver to replace "giveio.dll" which had been used previously to give access to hardware buses, and I presume that newer method still works with Windows 10... In the example, my GPU (video card) is 50C, which is warmer than it used to be, but it's not hot enough to be panicking. The CPU is 43C, which is not bad. Paul |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:03:05 -0600, KenW
wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 12:03:29 -0400, micky wrote: On June 7, I got a kernel mode heap coruption BSOD, as you may recall. Everything fine for 5 days until last night. In the middle of writing something got IRQL Not Less or Equal Auto-Restarted and ran without problems for hours, including running all night. This morning, got Kernel Security Check Failure Auto-Restarted, and before opening email or browswer, was backing up files, and AVG asked if I would permit Passwords (from Firefox) to be copied. It had never asked this before even though I run the same XXCopy backup routine periodically. The moment I said Yes, I got System Sevice Exception (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and almost immediately got Memory Managerment (BSOD) Auto-Restarted and got IRQL Not Less or Equal, even before boot finished. Auto-Restarted and it's been fine for an hour (probably more by the time I post this. During one of these times, it seemed to upgrade (update?) windows 10. I used BluescreenViewer and I'll post that as soon as I figure out how to get my clipboard to a file. Googled all the errors above and they have similar causes. Drivers is a frequent one. I installed Zoom 2 days ago, the only recent thing remember (well, in addition to BlueScreenViewer). If zoom had a bit of code that ran on startup, I think my AnVir program would have warned me. It always does. Yet I see there is a whole Zoom directory in C:\users.....\microsoft\windows\startmenu\programs \ It contains shortcuts for Start Zoom and Uninstall Zoom, so I guess neither runs on start up after all. Those are in C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Window s\Start Menu\Programs\Startup and none of those look new. I might use zoom once or twice a year. Should I delete that folder and le4t zoom start from scratch when I need it. (I haven't found a zoom icon on my desktop, don't know how to start it.) I also installed on April 17, 8 weeks ago, a special kind of video player, Network Recording Player , webex nbrplay.exe I didn't want it but a friend insisted. It says last accessed yesterday, June 12 at 5PM. That was about when the first crash was, but I wasn't using it then. How could that be? ?????? ?????? Rearranged by me, shouldn't have topposted. On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:50:40 -0400, micky wrote: 5 more crashes or freezes last night or this morning and yet now it's been running well for over an hour. Whether or not this can be fixed by me, I'd still like to understand what sort of thing causes this to happen. One time on restart, the only words on the black screen were "Preparing Automatic Repair" but it stayed like that for a long time until I restarted. I figured if it needed Repair and it didn't run there was no chance it would work better, but a couple restarts later and it's working fine, at last for now. What is "Preparing Automatic Repair"? I used Speccy and one core was 175^ and the number was colored tan. The other core was 177^ and colored red, but a) In the past the computer ran fine with the temp just in the red zone, b) the temp goes down occaionsally. One time I heard the fan speed up for a minute. So is this heat and should I vacuum the insides? I tried to clean once before and it was so compact it was hard to do, but it didn't seem that dirty either. Does the puter use a video card ? In one old puter I had, the fan on the video card was really full of dust which caused crashes. I change to built in Intel video, didn't want to spend more money on old puter. I don't know for sure, but you've convinced me I should look inside the PC for dust, or maybe a mouse. it will take a day or two before I can report back. KenW |
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