The 8.1 upgrade changed the login method

On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:24:09 -0800, cameo wrote:

On 11/3/2013 3:56 PM, John Aldred wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:02:23 -0800, cameo wrote:

On 11/2/2013 3:14 PM, John Aldred wrote:
I'm not too sure but I think the steps are something like:

Charms Menu Settings Change PC Settings Accounts

Then:
Click on Disconnect (just below username)
Type in current (Microsoft) password Click Next Switch to Local
Account window Type Username Type Password Confirm Password Give
Password hint Click Next Click Signout and Finish

I've not had to do it myself as I managed to do the 8.1 upgrade and
retain my local account login - so I can't confirm that it works.

Thanks John, that did it for me, too. But now what happened to the
previous login account that was named what was the user name (left of
the @ sign) of the Microsoft email account? I don't find it anywhere.

I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but If you want to go back to
the Microsoft account again with your original login Then:

Return to the Accounts page Disconnect the local account Switch back to
the Microsoft account

Again I'm not too sure of the above as I have not gone that route
myself.

Sorry if that is of little help to you.

John

I'm sorry I wasn't clear.
While I was on the Microsoft email account, let's say
, the login screen showed "MyName" and I assume there
was a home directory set up with the name "MyName" under the Users
folder. Just like now there is a "Boss" home directory because that's my
local login name now. I thought I would still find the "MyName"
directory under the Users folder, but it's not there. But then it may
never have been there in the first place and I just imagined that based
on my prior experience with the local user name and password login
method. Not to mention Unix or Linux where there are also user
directories corresponding to the login names.

I hope I explained myself clearer now because this is the best I can do.

OK that's clear enough. My apologies for being a bit dim.
Have you lost any user files as a result of the change to a local account?

John

"...winston" wrote in message
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cameo wrote:
On 11/2/2013 3:14 PM, John Aldred wrote:
I'm not too sure but I think the steps are something like:

Charms Menu Settings Change PC Settings Accounts

Then:
Click on Disconnect (just below username)
Type in current (Microsoft) password
Click Next
Switch to Local Account window
Type Username
Type Password
Confirm Password
Give Password hint
Click Next
Click Signout and Finish

I've not had to do it myself as I managed to do the 8.1 upgrade and
retain my local account login - so I can't confirm that it works.

Thanks John, that did it for me, too. But now what happened to the
previous login account that was named what was the user name (left of
the @ sign) of the Microsoft email account? I don't find it anywhere.

You changed the account from a MSFT account (email address) to a Local
account (username). - i.e. you didn't create a new one just changed its
account type.
- if you need both you will need to create one

That's kinda what I figured after I also changed to a local account, and I
found everything was just as it was as far as Start menu, programs, games,
etc.
I haven't seen any problems with anything connected to Microsoft since doing
so; for example, WAU still works fine (it let me know I had updates
available, since that's my setting), and they installed just fine when I let
them. I understand that Cloud storage is not available(?), but that's ok; I
do my backups locally on external HDDs anyhow. And whenever I need SkyDrive
(not so much since the MS Forums have gone to ****), I just login with my
Microsoft user name and password on it, and upload/download from my local PC
account. Life is good :-)
--
SC Tom

On 11/3/2013 5:44 PM, John Aldred wrote:

OK that's clear enough. My apologies for being a bit dim.
Have you lost any user files as a result of the change to a local account?

I'm not sure yet because my main PC is still my Win7 PC and I am just in
the process of moving over to my newer 8.1 laptop.

"cameo" wrote in message
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On 11/3/2013 5:44 PM, John Aldred wrote:

OK that's clear enough. My apologies for being a bit dim.
Have you lost any user files as a result of the change to a local
account?

I'm not sure yet because my main PC is still my Win7 PC and I am just in
the process of moving over to my newer 8.1 laptop.


I think you'll find that you lost nothing. Mine hasn't changed a bit other
than the user name. All my old documents, programs and updates, and any
"special" folders I created from the time I installed the Win8.1 upgrade to
when I changed to a local user are still the same, and I have the same
permissions to them (I'm always admin on my machines anyhow).
--
SC Tom

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:34:33 -0700, cameo wrote:

On 11/2/2013 6:36 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2013-11-02 2:36 AM, ...winston wrote:
cameo wrote:
Before the update I was able to log into Windows with a user name
and password, but the 8.1 update wants a Microsoft email account
with its password to log in. Is there a way to revert back to the
old username/passord method?

When prompted to create a MSFT account by the 8.1 MSFT Store update
process one must (to retain using the Local Account)
1. Click Create New Account 2. Click Continue using existing
account

Yup, that's what I did. Nothing changed in log-in.

But OP wants to avoid using the newly created account. If the old
account still exists, he should be able to make it the default
log-in. How do you that with Win8.1?

Yes, you've got it. I am past the 8.1 Store update, so I need a way
to revert back to the old local account.

I'm not too sure but I think the steps are something like:

Charms Menu Settings Change PC Settings Accounts

Then:
Click on Disconnect (just below username)
Type in current (Microsoft) password
Click Next
Switch to Local Account window
Type Username
Type Password
Confirm Password
Give Password hint
Click Next
Click Signout and Finish

I've not had to do it myself as I managed to do the 8.1 upgrade and
retain my local account login - so I can't confirm that it works.

John


I've upgraded to 8.1 yesterday and I was not aware of this change until
it restarted and ask for my Hotmail login.

I'd like to go back to local login but I have a question: What is the
"Charms" menu?

TIA

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:34:33 -0700, cameo wrote:

On 11/2/2013 6:36 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2013-11-02 2:36 AM, ...winston wrote:
cameo wrote:
Before the update I was able to log into Windows with a user name
and password, but the 8.1 update wants a Microsoft email account
with its password to log in. Is there a way to revert back to the
old username/passord method?

When prompted to create a MSFT account by the 8.1 MSFT Store update
process one must (to retain using the Local Account)
1. Click Create New Account 2. Click Continue using existing
account

Yup, that's what I did. Nothing changed in log-in.

But OP wants to avoid using the newly created account. If the old
account still exists, he should be able to make it the default
log-in. How do you that with Win8.1?

Yes, you've got it. I am past the 8.1 Store update, so I need a way
to revert back to the old local account.

I'm not too sure but I think the steps are something like:

Charms Menu Settings Change PC Settings Accounts

Then:
Click on Disconnect (just below username)
Type in current (Microsoft) password
Click Next
Switch to Local Account window
Type Username
Type Password
Confirm Password
Give Password hint
Click Next
Click Signout and Finish

I've not had to do it myself as I managed to do the 8.1 upgrade and
retain my local account login - so I can't confirm that it works.

John


I've upgraded to 8.1 yesterday and I was not aware of this change until
it restarted and ask for my Hotmail login.

I'd like to go back to local login but I have a question: What is the
"Charms" menu?

TIA


Oh, don't bother, I've found it.

Before someone tells me, Google is my friend.

Thanks anyway.

On 11/22/2013 10:22 AM, Dominique wrote:
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John Aldred écrivait
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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:34:33 -0700, cameo wrote:

On 11/2/2013 6:36 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2013-11-02 2:36 AM, ...winston wrote:
cameo wrote:
Before the update I was able to log into Windows with a user name
and password, but the 8.1 update wants a Microsoft email account
with its password to log in. Is there a way to revert back to the
old username/passord method?

When prompted to create a MSFT account by the 8.1 MSFT Store update
process one must (to retain using the Local Account)
1. Click Create New Account 2. Click Continue using existing
account

Yup, that's what I did. Nothing changed in log-in.

But OP wants to avoid using the newly created account. If the old
account still exists, he should be able to make it the default
log-in. How do you that with Win8.1?

Yes, you've got it. I am past the 8.1 Store update, so I need a way
to revert back to the old local account.

I'm not too sure but I think the steps are something like:

Charms Menu Settings Change PC Settings Accounts

Then:
Click on Disconnect (just below username)
Type in current (Microsoft) password
Click Next
Switch to Local Account window
Type Username
Type Password
Confirm Password
Give Password hint
Click Next
Click Signout and Finish

I've not had to do it myself as I managed to do the 8.1 upgrade and
retain my local account login - so I can't confirm that it works.

John


I've upgraded to 8.1 yesterday and I was not aware of this change until
it restarted and ask for my Hotmail login.

I'd like to go back to local login but I have a question: What is the
"Charms" menu?

TIA


Oh, don't bother, I've found it.

Before someone tells me, Google is my friend.

Thanks anyway.

Good for you. Now, if someone could just clue me in how to set up login
so the old Win-7 style desktop comes up immediately, not the new tiled
screen.

On 11/22/2013 2:21 PM, cameo wrote:
Good for you. Now, if someone could just clue me in how to set up login
so the old Win-7 style desktop comes up immediately, not the new tiled
screen.

In the desktop, right click on the tool bar at the bottom. Select
Properties, Navigation. Click When I sign in or close all
apps....................

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:34:33 -0700, cameo wrote:

On 11/2/2013 6:36 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2013-11-02 2:36 AM, ...winston wrote:
cameo wrote:
Before the update I was able to log into Windows with a user name
and
password, but the 8.1 update wants a Microsoft email account with
its
password to log in. Is there a way to revert back to the old
username/passord method?

When prompted to create a MSFT account by the 8.1 MSFT Store update
process one must (to retain using the Local Account)
1. Click Create New Account 2. Click Continue using existing account

Yup, that's what I did. Nothing changed in log-in.

But OP wants to avoid using the newly created account. If the old
account still exists, he should be able to make it the default log-
in.
How do you that with Win8.1?

Yes, you've got it. I am past the 8.1 Store update, so I need a way to
revert back to the old local account.

I'm not too sure but I think the steps are something like:

Charms Menu Settings Change PC Settings Accounts

Then:
Click on Disconnect (just below username)
Type in current (Microsoft) password
Click Next
Switch to Local Account window
Type Username
Type Password
Confirm Password
Give Password hint
Click Next
Click Signout and Finish

I've not had to do it myself as I managed to do the 8.1 upgrade and
retain my local account login - so I can't confirm that it works.

John


I've applied this procedure this afternoon and my "old" user account is
back, but when I reboot the computer, Windows opens in the Administrator
account where nothing is there. I have to logout, then login in my user
account.

I'd like to boot directly in my user account which has admin rights.

Thanks for this procedure.

On 11/22/2013 11:46 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 2:21 PM, cameo wrote:
Good for you. Now, if someone could just clue me in how to set up login
so the old Win-7 style desktop comes up immediately, not the new tiled
screen.

In the desktop, right click on the tool bar at the bottom. Select
Properties, Navigation. Click When I sign in or close all
apps....................

Thanks, that did it. However, the first screen on bootup is still not
the login screen. Can that be made the first?