Imaging/Backup software

On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:24:23 -0500, Nil wrote:

- Macrium Free seems pretty good, although it appears that you can only
restore files from an image while booted up in Windows, not from the
recovery media. I'm not sure that's a real problem. I've never been
able to make the Linux recovery disk work with this system.

I've been using Macrium Reflect Free for a while now, but I haven't
tried this. AFAIK you should be able to explore images when you boot
with the Rescue Media (USB or CD).

If this isn't what you mean and you mean really /restore/ an image, then
YES, it can be done using Rescue Media. I have done this several times.

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s|b

On 07 Nov 2013, "s|b" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I've been using Macrium Reflect Free for a while now, but I
haven't tried this. AFAIK you should be able to explore images
when you boot with the Rescue Media (USB or CD).

I knew you could easily explore them and restore a complete image from
the boot disk, but I couldn't figure out how to restore one or some
individual files. Paul explained how, using a convoluted and
inconvenient method you actually can do it. I'm not sure it's something
I would ever need to do, but it's good to know that it can be done.

It's pretty easy to do with Acronis Trueimage 11 - there's a convenient
menu option to do so.

s|b wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:24:23 -0500, Nil wrote:

- Macrium Free seems pretty good, although it appears that you can only
restore files from an image while booted up in Windows, not from the
recovery media. I'm not sure that's a real problem. I've never been
able to make the Linux recovery disk work with this system.

I've been using Macrium Reflect Free for a while now, but I haven't
tried this. AFAIK you should be able to explore images when you boot
with the Rescue Media (USB or CD).

If this isn't what you mean and you mean really /restore/ an image, then
YES, it can be done using Rescue Media. I have done this several times.

In ATI (3 methods are avaialble)
- restore files via Bootable media interface
- restore via the program
- restore via mounting the image in Explorer

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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:18:29 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 07 Nov 2013, "s|b" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I've been using Macrium Reflect Free for a while now, but I
haven't tried this. AFAIK you should be able to explore images
when you boot with the Rescue Media (USB or CD).

I knew you could easily explore them and restore a complete image from
the boot disk, but I couldn't figure out how to restore one or some
individual files. Paul explained how, using a convoluted and
inconvenient method you actually can do it. I'm not sure it's something
I would ever need to do, but it's good to know that it can be done.

It's pretty easy to do with Acronis Trueimage 11 - there's a convenient
menu option to do so.

I was gong to post the way to restore a single file with Macrium's boot
disk, but Paul's post seemed to cover it, so I didn't, although his
description look a bit convoluted to me as well. Meanwhile my experience
is that it's simple, so I'll describe my way. I hope you like it :-)

1. Once the program is running, look for the button to "Explore an
image".

2. Choose a letter for the virtual drive (I accepted the default).

3. PE Explorer comes up; it looks a lot like Windows Explorer.

4. Navigate to the file you want to restore and Right click - Copy it.

5. Navigate to the directory on C: (or whatever) you want to restore to.
Right click in a blank part of the file pane and press Paste.

I didn't try to find out if it is possible to open two ES Explorer
windows, which would make it even easier. I'll assign it as an exercise
for the reader :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:45:40 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:18:29 -0500, Nil wrote:

On 07 Nov 2013, "s|b" wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I've been using Macrium Reflect Free for a while now, but I
haven't tried this. AFAIK you should be able to explore images
when you boot with the Rescue Media (USB or CD).

I knew you could easily explore them and restore a complete image from
the boot disk, but I couldn't figure out how to restore one or some
individual files. Paul explained how, using a convoluted and
inconvenient method you actually can do it. I'm not sure it's something
I would ever need to do, but it's good to know that it can be done.

It's pretty easy to do with Acronis Trueimage 11 - there's a convenient
menu option to do so.

I was gong to post the way to restore a single file with Macrium's boot
disk, but Paul's post seemed to cover it, so I didn't, although his
description look a bit convoluted to me as well. Meanwhile my experience
is that it's simple, so I'll describe my way. I hope you like it :-)

1. Once the program is running, look for the button to "Explore an
image".

2. Choose a letter for the virtual drive (I accepted the default).

3. PE Explorer comes up; it looks a lot like Windows Explorer.

4. Navigate to the file you want to restore and Right click - Copy it.

5. Navigate to the directory on C: (or whatever) you want to restore to.
Right click in a blank part of the file pane and press Paste.

I didn't try to find out if it is possible to open two ES Explorer
windows, which would make it even easier. I'll assign it as an exercise
for the reader :-)

I omitted an important step, so please renumber my steps 2-5 above to
3-6, and put this in as the new step:

NEW STEP
2. From the choices Macrium presents, choose the drive and folder that
contains the image you want to explore.
/NEW STEP

Also "gong" above was supposed to be "going".

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:


I didn't try to find out if it is possible to open two ES Explorer
windows, which would make it even easier. I'll assign it as an exercise
for the reader :-)

And I was hoping you'd find a way to do that, so my
"solution" wouldn't look quite so pitiful :-)

Paul

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 01:52:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:


I didn't try to find out if it is possible to open two ES Explorer
windows, which would make it even easier. I'll assign it as an exercise
for the reader :-)

And I was hoping you'd find a way to do that, so my
"solution" wouldn't look quite so pitiful :-)

Paul

Well, I often use copy(cut), navigate, paste to copy(move) files, so I
don't see it as pitiful, just a bit less classy :-)

BTW, I actually never move files from disk to disk, for reasons others
have often cited here.

Anyway, I think your method and what I posted are the same, but I had
trouble being sure what you meant, as nil seems to have too, so I posted
an attempt at clarification.

Since I know that I can confuse people, I don't guarantee that my
attempt was successful :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:20:05 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 01:52:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:


I didn't try to find out if it is possible to open two ES Explorer
windows, which would make it even easier. I'll assign it as an exercise
for the reader :-)

And I was hoping you'd find a way to do that, so my
"solution" wouldn't look quite so pitiful :-)

Paul

Well, I often use copy(cut), navigate, paste to copy(move) files, so I
don't see it as pitiful, just a bit less classy :-)

BTW, I actually never move files from disk to disk, for reasons others
have often cited here.

Anyway, I think your method and what I posted are the same, but I had
trouble being sure what you meant, as nil seems to have too, so I posted
an attempt at clarification.

Since I know that I can confuse people, I don't guarantee that my
attempt was successful :-)

I forgot to respond to this:

"And I was hoping you'd find a way to do that".

You are a slave driver :-)

I was reluctant to go back there, because it's a slow process and it
does require rebooting to that CD, so I can't do the experiment and type
here in separate windows :-)

But this is maybe a good time, so I will in a few minutes. Tada!

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:44:58 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 16:20:05 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 01:52:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:


I didn't try to find out if it is possible to open two ES Explorer
windows, which would make it even easier. I'll assign it as an exercise
for the reader :-)

And I was hoping you'd find a way to do that, so my
"solution" wouldn't look quite so pitiful :-)

Paul

Well, I often use copy(cut), navigate, paste to copy(move) files, so I
don't see it as pitiful, just a bit less classy :-)

BTW, I actually never move files from disk to disk, for reasons others
have often cited here.

Anyway, I think your method and what I posted are the same, but I had
trouble being sure what you meant, as nil seems to have too, so I posted
an attempt at clarification.

Since I know that I can confuse people, I don't guarantee that my
attempt was successful :-)

I forgot to respond to this:

"And I was hoping you'd find a way to do that".

You are a slave driver :-)

I was reluctant to go back there, because it's a slow process and it
does require rebooting to that CD, so I can't do the experiment and type
here in separate windows :-)

But this is maybe a good time, so I will in a few minutes. Tada!

I told you it would take a while!

Actually, since I was there I did a couple of experiments besides the
above. Mea culpa ;-)

I couldn't find a way to have two SE Explorers open (Oh jeez - I though
of another way I didn't try!).

I also couldn't access a shared folder through the tool that they
provide.

And I verified (because I forgot that I had already done so) that USB 3
doesn't work in my two-year old boot disk.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:17:31 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

I couldn't find a way to have two SE Explorers open (Oh jeez - I though
of another way I didn't try!).

I had tried Right-click - Context menu; Double-Click; Control-Click; and
the menus on the menu bar. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Nil (sorry, nil).

As you might guess, I got a new idea as I was typing the above. I
rebooted to the CD and tried clicking on the program's toolbar (a column
of buttons on the left side of the pane).

Voilà! That worked.

BUT - click and drag didn't work. It was necessary to open the
right-click context menu on the file of interest and select copy or cut,
followed by pasting in the destination folder.

I didn't try multiple selections (I'm getting bored with this!), but I
have faith :-)

Anyway, being able to open multiple instances of the explorer does make
the process easier. Much easier, IMO.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:35:48 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

I didn't try multiple selections (I'm getting bored with this!), but I
have faith :-)

OK, dinner isn't ready yet, so I yielded to my (figurative) OCD and
tested multiple selections. Only someone who is paranoid would believe
that it would not work, but I qualify :-)

It works fine - and the files I copied are still here in my regular
Windows.

So the Windows PE recovery disk for Macrium from 2011 - for the paid
version - is a functional tool with some limitations, bit that's still
better than being unable to recover.

I still haven't looked for my 2013 CD.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:35:48 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

I didn't try multiple selections (I'm getting bored with this!), but I
have faith :-)

OK, dinner isn't ready yet, so I yielded to my (figurative) OCD and
tested multiple selections. Only someone who is paranoid would believe
that it would not work, but I qualify :-)

It works fine - and the files I copied are still here in my regular
Windows.

So the Windows PE recovery disk for Macrium from 2011 - for the paid
version - is a functional tool with some limitations, bit that's still
better than being unable to recover.

I still haven't looked for my 2013 CD.


Do you see the thing you clicked here ? I'm using
the free version, and the boot disc was the WinPE
based one. I already had WAIK on the VM I used
for testing, but it still needed a download to
make the WinPE disc. Maybe the thing you were
using for your second explorer is here ?

http://imageshack.us/a/img593/1927/dyu.gif

Paul

Gene E. Bloch has written on 11/9/2013 8:17 PM:

I couldn't find a way to have two SE Explorers open (Oh jeez - I though
of another way I didn't try!).


How about installing Total Commander? It's a two-pane file manager. I
use it folder to folder, often with one folder on my computer and the
other, on a different one on my network.

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:23:02 -0500, Paul wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:35:48 -0800, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

I didn't try multiple selections (I'm getting bored with this!), but I
have faith :-)

OK, dinner isn't ready yet, so I yielded to my (figurative) OCD and
tested multiple selections. Only someone who is paranoid would believe
that it would not work, but I qualify :-)

It works fine - and the files I copied are still here in my regular
Windows.

So the Windows PE recovery disk for Macrium from 2011 - for the paid
version - is a functional tool with some limitations, bit that's still
better than being unable to recover.

I still haven't looked for my 2013 CD.


Do you see the thing you clicked here ? I'm using
the free version, and the boot disc was the WinPE
based one. I already had WAIK on the VM I used
for testing, but it still needed a download to
make the WinPE disc. Maybe the thing you were
using for your second explorer is here ?

http://imageshack.us/a/img593/1927/dyu.gif

Paul

No.

When I boot to the CD, I get a panel down the left side consisting of
half a dozen rectangles, each of which is a button to initiate a task.
These include Backup (IIRC), Restore, Browse an Image, and their
Explorer. It looks quite unlike what you have shown.

However, what you show for the navigation in the Explorer is like what I
do, except now I have learned that you can have two windows open, which
make the job a little more pleasant.

How did you get screen shots, and how did you get them displayed inside
IE7?

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 20:05:06 -0500, Juan Wei wrote:

Gene E. Bloch has written on 11/9/2013 8:17 PM:

I couldn't find a way to have two SE Explorers open (Oh jeez - I though
of another way I didn't try!).


How about installing Total Commander? It's a two-pane file manager. I
use it folder to folder, often with one folder on my computer and the
other, on a different one on my network.

OK, tell me how to install Total Commander in the Windows PE boot disk
that we are talking about. You'd also have to make sure that the CD as
set up by Macrium will let you run that.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)