Date at bottom of screen?

Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and day of week
in the lower right corner of the screen? Sometimes the date is displayed if
you put the curser on the time but too often that doesn't work. You can
double-click the time and get the month's calendar but that's quite slow on
my system.

Or perhaps there's a way to make Firefox keep the date displayed somewhere?



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In ,
KenK typed:
Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and day
of week in the lower right corner of the screen? Sometimes the date
is displayed if you put the curser on the time but too often that
doesn't work. You can double-click the time and get the month's
calendar but that's quite slow on my system.

Or perhaps there's a way to make Firefox keep the date displayed
somewhere?

You have to widen the Taskbar, then it should automatically show. If you
can't resize it like a window, then you have to unlock it by right
clicking on the Taskbar and remove the check.

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Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

KenK wrote:

Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and day of week
in the lower right corner of the screen? ...

If you enlarge the height of the Windows taskbar (assuming it is
positioned at the bottom of the screen) then there is more room to
display more date/time information. Then you'll see the date.

I enlarged my taskbar to 2 rows. This let me create several toolbar
beyond just the QuickLaunch toolbar, like toolbars to group links to IE
(kill, normal, private mode, no script, etc), e-mail, newsgroups and
forums, virtual machines and other security stuff, VOIP, while letting
me have a decent sized address bar. Buttons for open apps go in the top
row and the toolbars, address bar, and tray area go in the bottom row.
Having 2 rows makes the single space are for the tray area get bigger so
you get 3 lines for info: time, day of week, and date.

VanguardLH wrote in :

If you enlarge the height of the Windows taskbar (assuming it is
positioned at the bottom of the screen) then there is more room to
display more date/time information. Then you'll see the date.


That got it! Had to increase to three rows. Accidently somehow moved
taskbar to top of screen while adjusting it. Major panic when it
disappeared until I discovered it there!




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"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in :

If you enlarge the height of the Windows taskbar (assuming it is
positioned at the bottom of the screen) then there is more room to
display more date/time information. Then you'll see the date.


That got it! Had to increase to three rows. Accidently somehow moved
taskbar to top of screen while adjusting it. Major panic when it
disappeared until I discovered it there!

Changing the DPI and font sizes might let you get it inside of 2 rows.

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in :

If you enlarge the height of the Windows taskbar (assuming it is
positioned at the bottom of the screen) then there is more room to
display more date/time information. Then you'll see the date.


That got it! Had to increase to three rows. Accidently somehow moved
taskbar to top of screen while adjusting it. Major panic when it
disappeared until I discovered it there!

Changing the DPI and font sizes might let you get it inside of 2 rows.


I don't see those options in the taskbar properties. Where can I find it?
Or will I need to do this for the entire display? If so, I'll stay with
three lines.

TIA


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"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

On 09 Nov 2013, KenK wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and
day of week in the lower right corner of the screen? Sometimes the
date is displayed if you put the curser on the time but too often
that doesn't work. You can double-click the time and get the
month's calendar but that's quite slow on my system.

I use Stoic Joker's T-Clock (http://www.stoicjoker.com/TClock/) to get
the system tray clock to look the way I like it. It includes a handy
little pop-up calendar:

http://rednoise.x10host.com/temp/t-clock2.png

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 13:19:02 -0500, Nil
wrote:

On 09 Nov 2013, KenK wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and
day of week in the lower right corner of the screen? Sometimes the
date is displayed if you put the curser on the time but too often
that doesn't work. You can double-click the time and get the
month's calendar but that's quite slow on my system.

I use Stoic Joker's T-Clock (http://www.stoicjoker.com/TClock/) to get
the system tray clock to look the way I like it. It includes a handy
little pop-up calendar:

http://rednoise.x10host.com/temp/t-clock2.png


I no longer use it, but I used to like TClock a lot. I think it's much
better than the similarly-named TClockex.

These days I keep my task bar on the left side of the screen , where I
get whatever I want. With today's wide screens, I think that makes
much better use of screen real estate than at the bottom.

In message , KenK
writes:
Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and day of week
in the lower right corner of the screen? Sometimes the date is displayed if
you put the curser on the time but too often that doesn't work. You can
double-click the time and get the month's calendar but that's quite slow on
my system.

Just hovering over it works for me - no double-click needed.

As others have said, making the taskbar two blocks high will give room
for more. Third party tools - despite what others say, I find TClockEx
works fine - will let you play all sorts of tunes on what elements you
have, and in what fonts for the text and background; I have
Sat, 2013 Nov 9
20:55:55
+0000 GMT Standard Time

(and something slightly different on my work PC, where I included the
week number). In yellow on brown.

Or perhaps there's a way to make Firefox keep the date displayed somewhere?



There almost certainly is - there's an add-on for more or less
everything else (-:!
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My daughter is appalled by it at all times, but you know you have to appal
your 14-year-old daughter otherwise you're not doing your job as a father. -
Richard Osman to Alison Graham, in Radio Times 2013-6-8 to 14

On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:57:29 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , KenK
writes:
Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and day of week
in the lower right corner of the screen? Sometimes the date is displayed if
you put the curser on the time but too often that doesn't work. You can
double-click the time and get the month's calendar but that's quite slow on
my system.

Just hovering over it works for me - no double-click needed.

As others have said, making the taskbar two blocks high will give room
for more. Third party tools - despite what others say, I find TClockEx
works fine -


If I'm one of the others you're referring to, note that didn't say
anything negative about TClockEx; what I said is that TClock is much
better.

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in :

If you enlarge the height of the Windows taskbar (assuming it is
positioned at the bottom of the screen) then there is more room to
display more date/time information. Then you'll see the date.


That got it! Had to increase to three rows. Accidently somehow moved
taskbar to top of screen while adjusting it. Major panic when it
disappeared until I discovered it there!

Changing the DPI and font sizes might let you get it inside of 2 rows.


I don't see those options in the taskbar properties. Where can I find it?
Or will I need to do this for the entire display? If so, I'll stay with
three lines.

TIA

For DPI, just go into the Windows help or search online. You'll find it
as a screen resolution option. Alas, most folks increase the DPI so
text gets sharper, not fuzzier, at higher resolutions. Buying a larger
resolution screen is pointless if all text gets smaller and harder to
read along with getting a bit more fuzzer. That's because the same
number of pixels are used to paint the width and height of a character
which means higher resolution (which isn't linear to increase in monitor
size) results in more pixels per inch. The characters using the same
DPI will be smaller. To make them the same size as before and use more
pixels so they become sharper means upping the DPI level. That would
mean less would fit into the same size tray area. Going to the standard
96 DPI would make more fit inside the same space in the screen but make
the characters smaller and harder to read. If you haven't changed DPI,
you are at the default of 96 dots per inch.

If you have modified the Windows theme, it's possible fonts got bigger
(another trick to make characters easier to read except with the same
old lower DPI meaning they won't be any sharper). Resetting to a
standard Windows theme would reset the font sizes.

To change font sizes for particular elements of window objects, look at
the Display applet in Control Panel. Click the Advanced button to see
which objects (in a list) you can select to see which ones let you
change font size. Just changing the font size by 1 pixel in height
might give you a 3-line date/time display in the tray area. I don't
remember if you have to log out and back in to see the change in the
Windows taskbar for font size changes to apply to it.

In ,
Ken Blake, MVP typed:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 20:57:29 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , KenK
writes:
Any way to include the date with the already displayed time and day
of week in the lower right corner of the screen? Sometimes the date
is displayed if you put the curser on the time but too often that
doesn't work. You can double-click the time and get the month's
calendar but that's quite slow on my system.

Just hovering over it works for me - no double-click needed.

As others have said, making the taskbar two blocks high will give
room for more. Third party tools - despite what others say, I find
TClockEx works fine -

If I'm one of the others you're referring to, note that didn't say
anything negative about TClockEx; what I said is that TClock is much
better.

Maybe so, but Aston Shell is so much better yet. And my XP, Win7, and
Win8 desktops all look the same thanks to Aston Shell.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2
Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
KenK wrote:

VanguardLH wrote in :
[]
Changing the DPI and font sizes might let you get it inside of 2 rows.


I don't see those options in the taskbar properties. Where can I find it?
Or will I need to do this for the entire display? If so, I'll stay with
three lines.

TIA

For DPI, just go into the Windows help or search online. You'll find it
as a screen resolution option. Alas, most folks increase the DPI so
text gets sharper, not fuzzier, at higher resolutions. Buying a larger
resolution screen is pointless if all text gets smaller and harder to
read along with getting a bit more fuzzer. That's because the same
number of pixels are used to paint the width and height of a character
which means higher resolution (which isn't linear to increase in monitor
size) results in more pixels per inch. The characters using the same
DPI will be smaller. To make them the same size as before and use more
pixels so they become sharper means upping the DPI level. That would
mean less would fit into the same size tray area. Going to the standard
96 DPI would make more fit inside the same space in the screen but make
the characters smaller and harder to read. If you haven't changed DPI,
you are at the default of 96 dots per inch.

If you have modified the Windows theme, it's possible fonts got bigger
(another trick to make characters easier to read except with the same
old lower DPI meaning they won't be any sharper). Resetting to a
standard Windows theme would reset the font sizes.

To change font sizes for particular elements of window objects, look at
the Display applet in Control Panel. Click the Advanced button to see
which objects (in a list) you can select to see which ones let you
change font size. Just changing the font size by 1 pixel in height
might give you a 3-line date/time display in the tray area. I don't
remember if you have to log out and back in to see the change in the
Windows taskbar for font size changes to apply to it.

That just lets you change it for those particular elements of _all_
window objects, or rather those elements in _all_ windows; KenK was
asking if there's a way of changing them just for the clock. AFAIK there
isn't in generic XP - you need a third-party tool (TClockEx will do it,
probably TClock as well) to _just_ change the settings for the clock.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

he was eventually struck off by the BMA in 1968 for not knowing his gluteus
maximus from his humerus.

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

That just lets you change it for those particular elements of _all_
window objects, or rather those elements in _all_ windows;

Yep, I gave what Windows XP provides for user-configurable options, not
substitute 3rd party software.

KenK was
asking if there's a way of changing them just for the clock. AFAIK there
isn't in generic XP - you need a third-party tool (TClockEx will do it,
probably TClock as well) to _just_ change the settings for the clock.

I thought Tclock[ex] *replaced* the Windows-provided clock object in the
system notification area (aka system tray). You load Tclock. It stays
loaded in memory. It is a separate process.

There is a registry edit that hides the normal Windows-provided clock
from the taskbar (http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/970/).
So I suspect Tclock uses this to hide the normal clock and then add the
display of its own process to the systray (as a "window" inside the
systray area) or uses a titleless toolbar.

You could look at http://wincalendartime.sourceforge.net/index.html to
see how they did it. I wasn't interested right now to delve into their
code to see what API calls they make to change Windows theme definitions
and position their "window" inside the tray area.

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

That just lets you change it for those particular elements of _all_
window objects, or rather those elements in _all_ windows;

Yep, I gave what Windows XP provides for user-configurable options, not
substitute 3rd party software.

KenK's original question asked if there was a way to include the date.
Various people answered that raising the height of the taskbar included
it. Ken subsequently said he'd had to go to three rows. You said that
changing DPI etc. might get it in two (which indeed it might). Ken then
asked "I don't see those options in the taskbar properties. Where can I
find it? Or will I need to do this for the entire display? If so, I'll
stay with three lines." You then answered with instructions (in your
usual exhaustive detail!) on how to get at the settings - which would
indeed affect such settings for the entire display: not what Ken had
asked.

KenK was
asking if there's a way of changing them just for the clock. AFAIK there
isn't in generic XP - you need a third-party tool (TClockEx will do it,
probably TClock as well) to _just_ change the settings for the clock.

I thought Tclock[ex] *replaced* the Windows-provided clock object in the
system notification area (aka system tray). You load Tclock. It stays
loaded in memory. It is a separate process.

It probably does. Although preferable to do everything with the built-in
facilities, nothing in any of KenK's questions excluded the use of
third-party software. However, if you have a way of changing the DPI
and/or font _just for the built-in clock_, and not other parts of
Windows, I'm sure we'd like to hear them.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

There I was, sitting in a glum mood - 'Cheer up, things could be worse',
he said, so I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.