Wrong HD?

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I
can't get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Did you partition and format it?

W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

P5LSI not found in a google search.
Does that MB support 250g drives?
Does the MB need large disk support software?
Are there jumper settings?
Etc.

On 11/10/2013 07:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??





Drives usually come not partitioned.

Use disk management to partition and format the drive

W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I would be checking those hard drive jumpers.

And, if there is only a single hard drive on the
IDE cable, make sure the drive is connected to the
end connector. Not the middle one.

Paul

"Paul in Houston TX" wrote in message ...
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive. It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the
drive. For years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced
IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is
a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

P5LSI not found in a google search.
Does that MB support 250g drives?
Does the MB need large disk support software?
Are there jumper settings?
Etc.


P5LSI can not
See the end of the Disk
He have to set
The Sector and cylinder
So that P5LSI
Can see the side of Disk

WD Website have the Answer
For Old PC and Sector and Cylinder

On 11/10/2013 5:50 PM, Bob F wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I
can't get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Did you partition and format it?


There is no way to do that. My Computer does not show the drive.

With the small 8.4GB drive, it comes up on the E: drive. Using the 250GB
drive is not seen anywhere.

On 11/10/2013 6:08 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't
get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

P5LSI not found in a google search.
Does that MB support 250g drives?
Does the MB need large disk support software?
Are there jumper settings?
Etc.
Faulty memory. Use P5NSLI. Don't know if the MB supports large drives,
but the SATA HD is 300GB. Don't know about software for big drives.

I tried with the jumper in positions 4 and 5. 5 is right most.

On 11/10/2013 7:03 PM, philo wrote:
On 11/10/2013 07:47 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??





Drives usually come not partitioned.

Use disk management to partition and format the drive
Not possible if the drive cannot be seen.

On 11/10/2013 8:47 PM, Paul wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't
get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I would be checking those hard drive jumpers.

And, if there is only a single hard drive on the
IDE cable, make sure the drive is connected to the
end connector. Not the middle one.

Paul
Tried both # 4 and # 5. Nothing.

W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:50 PM, Bob F wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal
drive. It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the
drive. For years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided
to use a bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE
WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC
does not see it. My mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a
SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing
an IDE with an EIDE??

Did you partition and format it?


There is no way to do that. My Computer does not show the drive.

With the small 8.4GB drive, it comes up on the E: drive. Using the
250GB drive is not seen anywhere.

Start, Right click My computer, Disk Managment.

W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 6:08 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't
get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

P5LSI not found in a google search.
Does that MB support 250g drives?
Does the MB need large disk support software?
Are there jumper settings?
Etc.
Faulty memory. Use P5NSLI. Don't know if the MB supports large drives,
but the SATA HD is 300GB. Don't know about software for big drives.

I tried with the jumper in positions 4 and 5. 5 is right most.

Not sure what you mean by jumper in 4 and 5.
If it's a single drive, there should be no jumper.
http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/librar...579-001037.pdf
Is there another drive on the cable?
Perhaps a pata CD drive?
(Nice MB, btw.)

On 11/10/2013 9:28 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 8:47 PM, Paul wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't
get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I would be checking those hard drive jumpers.

And, if there is only a single hard drive on the
IDE cable, make sure the drive is connected to the
end connector. Not the middle one.

Paul
Tried both # 4 and # 5. Nothing.


There is no reason why this WD drive should not be seen
in the ASUS P5NSLI. As the only IDE hard drive, it does
not need to be jumpered. The problem may be with the old
HD caddy and that it might need to be reconfigured for
a large (i.e., 32 GB) hard drive, if it is capable of
handling one. (BTW, to what is this tray connected? To
the IDE port on the motherboard?)

If there is no reason to use the tray, try connecting the
WD 250 GB drive directly to the motherboard with a standard
IDE cable.

GR

W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 8:47 PM, Paul wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't
get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I would be checking those hard drive jumpers.

And, if there is only a single hard drive on the
IDE cable, make sure the drive is connected to the
end connector. Not the middle one.

Paul
Tried both # 4 and # 5. Nothing.


I can see several different model numbers that start
with WD2500 here.

http://support.wdc.com/product/insta...id=502&lang=en

We'll pretend it's a WD2500LB.

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/..._id/932#jumper

With a single drive on the cable and no drive in the middle
cable position, the "no jumper" setting looks appropriate.
Try to use an 80 wire 40 pin connector cable if you can,
for best performance. The 40 wire 40 pin connector cable
limits the speed to something like 33MB/sec. Software can
sense whether an 80 wire or 40 wire cable is connected.
The 80 wire connector is also typically compatible with
"Cable Select" should you choose to use it later on.

The 80 wire cable, uses 40 wires for signal grounds,
and has better impedance control as a result. The
software senses that, and enables the faster cable
operating rates.

But for the moment, with the single drive, you can try
the "no jumper" option.

*******

This is a generic jumper document. This document
has value, for the information on page 3, which allows
drive geometry changes by adding a second jumper
for the "clip" function. That is used on old systems,
when the BIOS cannot handle a large drive. This does not
apply to your P5NSLI motherboard, which is quite modern.
Any system after mid-2003, is pretty well assured to be
large drive compatible, and not have a problem with 250GB
drives on either IDE or SATA port.

http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/librar...579-001037.pdf

*******

Maybe it isn't a jumper or cabling issue, and all
of that is fine.

Perhaps you entered the BIOS setup, went to the
IDE section, and made modifications to the
"Auto" setting that Asus uses by default.
Look in there, you'll see it's been taken
off Auto and set to something else. After all,
with the 8.4GB previous drive, you may have been
tempted to use customs settings with it. I stopped
doing that, after "shooting myself in the foot"
with that stuff :-)

Ok, now to check if I have the manual in my collection.

e2234_p5nsli.pdf page 2-17 (PDF page 67)

Access Mode [ CHS, LBA, Large, Auto ]

And [Auto] is the default, and also a good choice.

*******

http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/lba.htm

"Comparison of Translation Modes"

http://pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesComparison-c.html

Paul

On 11/11/2013 2:08 AM, Ghostrider 00 wrote:
On 11/10/2013 9:28 PM, W. eWatson wrote:
On 11/10/2013 8:47 PM, Paul wrote:
W. eWatson wrote:
I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't
get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I would be checking those hard drive jumpers.

And, if there is only a single hard drive on the
IDE cable, make sure the drive is connected to the
end connector. Not the middle one.

Paul
Tried both # 4 and # 5. Nothing.


There is no reason why this WD drive should not be seen
in the ASUS P5NSLI. As the only IDE hard drive, it does
not need to be jumpered. The problem may be with the old
HD caddy and that it might need to be reconfigured for
a large (i.e., 32 GB) hard drive, if it is capable of
handling one. (BTW, to what is this tray connected? To
the IDE port on the motherboard?)

If there is no reason to use the tray, try connecting the
WD 250 GB drive directly to the motherboard with a standard
IDE cable.

GR

On further thought, this WD 250 GD hard drive might need to
use the Ultra DMA 133/100/66 (80-wire) cable to the Primary
IDE port.

GR