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On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:07:04 -0500, Paul wrote:
You may have said "no" to a Microsoft account when setting up 8.0. When you install 8.1, you'll be faced with the same details, only Microsoft wants to trick you into signing up for a Microsoft account. You need to find the workaround that allows you to "use an existing account". snip It's your call of course, if you want to share what you have with the world. I think we all know what you mean by that last part, but it's probably just a bit overstated. Such sharing would require a data breach, which is far from impossible, but at the same time isn't likely. |
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On 22/11/2013 22:53, Ken Blake wrote:
Let me add to the replies you've gotten that before taking any big step (like an operating system upgrade) you should be sure you have a current backup of your system on an external device. There should be no problem, but things *can* go wrong. Are you saying backup of the entire system or backup of own work such as documents, images, videos, email etc etc? -- Good Guy Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk Website: http://html-css.co.uk Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us |
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On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:27:44 +0000, Good Guy
wrote: On 22/11/2013 22:53, Ken Blake wrote: Let me add to the replies you've gotten that before taking any big step (like an operating system upgrade) you should be sure you have a current backup of your system on an external device. There should be no problem, but things *can* go wrong. Are you saying backup of the entire system or backup of own work such as documents, images, videos, email etc etc? I wasn't saying either in particular, but the more that is backed up, the safer you will be. -- Ken Blake |
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:07:04 -0500, Paul wrote: You may have said "no" to a Microsoft account when setting up 8.0. When you install 8.1, you'll be faced with the same details, only Microsoft wants to trick you into signing up for a Microsoft account. You need to find the workaround that allows you to "use an existing account". snip It's your call of course, if you want to share what you have with the world. I think we all know what you mean by that last part, but it's probably just a bit overstated. Such sharing would require a data breach, which is far from impossible, but at the same time isn't likely. I was thinking of my local NSA guy. Sorry about that :-) I know (he or she) isn't a gossip, but still... Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Char Jackson wrote: Paul wrote: You may have said "no" to a Microsoft account when setting up 8.0. When you install 8.1, you'll be faced with the same details, only Microsoft wants to trick you into signing up for a Microsoft account. You need to find the workaround that allows you to "use an existing account". snip It's your call of course, if you want to share what you have with the world. I think we all know what you mean by that last part, but it's probably just a bit overstated. Such sharing would require a data breach, which is far from impossible, but at the same time isn't likely. I was thinking of my local NSA guy. Sorry about that :-) I know (he or she) isn't a gossip, but still... Right… There are people on the inside who have access. I guess all it takes is someone who wants to violate your privacy. Whether they get away with it might just depend on whether they can stand being anonymous, or whether they are looking for notoriety. In Edward Snowden's case, he probably would've been caught given the circumstances, whether he published the information or dropped it into a fireplace. One would hope so. In a recent congressional hearing, one of our representatives boldly stated "if somebody doesn't know their privacy has been violated, it hasn't been violated". Makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. |
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Good Guy hello.world example.com wrote:
Ken Blake wrote: Let me add to the replies you've gotten that before taking any big step (like an operating system upgrade) you should be sure you have a current backup of your system on an external device. There should be no problem, but things *can* go wrong. Are you saying backup of the entire system or backup of own work such as documents, images, videos, email etc etc? Both. I don't know if it's rocket science, but if you are a computer enthusiast making backups of your Windows partition will eventually put you in orbit. I've been doing that for decades. It's a whole new world. The easiest system copying utility to use might be Macrium Reflect. I've had no trouble with it since Fishface mentioned it in the homebuilt PC group years ago. I've used lots, starting with PartitionMagic. Every once in a while, consistently, people come into the PC group crying about losing their data. Trying to recover data from a broken hard drive can be extremely expensive. |
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Ken Blake posted this :
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:27:44 +0000, Good Guy wrote: On 22/11/2013 22:53, Ken Blake wrote: Let me add to the replies you've gotten that before taking any big step (like an operating system upgrade) you should be sure you have a current backup of your system on an external device. There should be no problem, but things *can* go wrong. Are you saying backup of the entire system or backup of own work such as documents, images, videos, email etc etc? I wasn't saying either in particular, but the more that is backed up, the safer you will be. That whole [backup] line rings like another bull**** platitude radiating from Microsoft... The issue becomes salient when you buy a computer with MS OS installed... Most people who are coming into the computer home user market are newbies and do not really have the experience to trifle with the provided Microsoft tools - crippled and inferior as they are. Really...! It should already be partitioned and/or have a reasonably simply adjustable partition and/or a effective and efficient *non- destructive* partitioning tool BUILT INTO THE ROLL-OUT OS... Even when you get one of those initial OS packages with Win8/8.1 pre- installed, they usually have a ghi-normous hard-drive (1-TB) with the OS installed and configured - and sometimes a hard-coded restore partition which is not user-adjustable... So, next what happens is when you go to install your partitioning tool, its dialog will disclaim you to "back up your programs and data..." prior to installing. So, you get your backup program and it will disclaim you to "back up your programs and data..." prior to installing. How long has Microsoft been around? WTF?!? So what does Microsoft do? Easy... Certify some jerk-nards to spout out platitudes like "you should back up before [you do anything]..." and then treat anybody who tries to obtain elucidation with distain and more platitudes... Backup = safe... Yay, thanks for the tip. -- I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and , Skittles is the wholesome American snacky-time treat for pretty young girls (and many of the basic USDA food groups if you count artificial flavoring as vegetables): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX-gW4otXfI |
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On 11/23/2013 9:40 AM, Bucky Breeder wrote:
Ken Blake posted this : On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:27:44 +0000, Good Guy wrote: On 22/11/2013 22:53, Ken Blake wrote: Let me add to the replies you've gotten that before taking any big step (like an operating system upgrade) you should be sure you have a current backup of your system on an external device. There should be no problem, but things *can* go wrong. Are you saying backup of the entire system or backup of own work such as documents, images, videos, email etc etc? I wasn't saying either in particular, but the more that is backed up, the safer you will be. That whole [backup] line rings like another bull**** platitude radiating from Microsoft... The issue becomes salient when you buy a computer with MS OS installed... Most people who are coming into the computer home user market are newbies and do not really have the experience to trifle with the provided Microsoft tools - crippled and inferior as they are. Really...! It should already be partitioned and/or have a reasonably simply adjustable partition and/or a effective and efficient *non- destructive* partitioning tool BUILT INTO THE ROLL-OUT OS... Even when you get one of those initial OS packages with Win8/8.1 pre- installed, they usually have a ghi-normous hard-drive (1-TB) with the OS installed and configured - and sometimes a hard-coded restore partition which is not user-adjustable... So, next what happens is when you go to install your partitioning tool, its dialog will disclaim you to "back up your programs and data..." prior to installing. So, you get your backup program and it will disclaim you to "back up your programs and data..." prior to installing. How long has Microsoft been around? WTF?!? So what does Microsoft do? Easy... Certify some jerk-nards to spout out platitudes like "you should back up before [you do anything]..." and then treat anybody who tries to obtain elucidation with distain and more platitudes... Backup = safe... Yay, thanks for the tip. Lets face it the newby is not going to have an external device to back up to. The first time he is going to see anything about back up is when he is setting up his new computer with MS or MAC OS. After he works with his computer a few months, and starts getting files he wants to keep he is going to see the need to back on of his data. What is he going to do then? He may try to use CD's for a while until he realizes that he has more data than a CD will hold. He is then going to the nearest store that sells hard drive and buy the one he can afford that he believe will fit his needs. Note this may be a Target, or Walmart not know for customer service. When he is home he is going to take the thing out of the box, find the quick start up page and follow the instructions. After he has got every thing hooked up, and turned on the first thing the disk start up page will do is ask in he wants to install the back up software. Since he bought the disk for back he will say "Yes", and when installed follow the instructions presented for back up his data. He may be really thorough and back up the main disk, but he really does not care about the OS. In this initial period he does not care what OS he has, his only concern is backing up his data. He probably will learn much later there is a back up program in the OS, and there is better third party software to back up to the new hard drive. |
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On 20/11/2013 21:49, Stubbo of oz wrote:
Am I right in assuming that, after upgrading to 8.1 from 8, all my installed programs will still be there and I will not have to reinstall them all? I have just found out that after the upgrade, you will need to re-install all your network printers that are using TCP/IP ports for connections because for some reasons the printers are just showing "offline" when in fact they are all online 24/7. I just did that to connect to some 20 printers at my University on one of my Windows 8.1 laptop. Don't know why this happened but the printer drivers are still the same as Windows 8. MAjority are HP printers and the new drivers were released in September but they are compatible with Windows 8.1 according to HP website. I am using Universal Drivers for all my printers. The other printer/copiers are from Ricoh and those too needed to be reconnected. So something is definitely changing when updating to 8.1. There is nothing online yet but we should see something soon because there must be many people in this situation. -- Good Guy Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk Website: http://html-css.co.uk Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us |
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