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  #136  
Old December 13th 13, 06:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:28:39 -0600, "R. H. Breener"
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"Johnny" wrote in message
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I have moved on to Linux Mint 16, and won't be using Windows again. It
does everything I need it to do, and it's fun to use.


My family is moving on to MACS. We're among the last ones hanging on to
Windows. After all these recent problems with Vista and W7, we may join
them
when these computers w/Windows crash and burn for the last time. I played
with a friend's W8 for awhile and wasn't impressed.


I recently used a friend's Mac Book Pro for a couple of hours, and I
played
with his wife's Iphone for a bit. I say no thanks to both. I've never been
an Apple fan, and every time I touch an Apple product I'm reminded why.


What didn't you like about the MAC?

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  #137  
Old December 13th 13, 07:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Juan Wei" wrote in message
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Jim has written on 12/10/2013 4:11 PM:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:33:37 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

Underneath these comments is the assumption that every
user knows how to use a computer, do searches, properly store their
data, anything and everything.


If a person knows 'nothing' about computers, they need to take a night
school course, seek help from a friend or just fiqure it out on their
own. What did you do when you got your first computer?


In my over-55 community, most people were given computers by their
children who showed them how to open IE, surf and how to get email via
their ISP's webmail site.

Why would they take a course????


Some schools have courses for adults but they don't teach you more than
what you already mentioned. They don't teach you anything about trouble
shooting and only touch on viruses and other problems you'll run into. Only
the basics are covered. From what the people here say, the courses are good
for someone who buys a computer, has no one to help them understand or use
it, and doesn't even know how to get online. If you want to learn more you
have to look into college courses.

You'll learn more on Forums or places like here then you will at those adult
night classes. For someone with no knowledge of computers at all those
classes would be helpful, necessary even, but you wont learn much more than
the basics.

  #138  
Old December 13th 13, 01:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-l...-future-update

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/fu...dows-threshold

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/9/51...art-menu-rumor

http://www.zdnet.com/what-might-a-ne...e-7000024193/#.

  #139  
Old December 13th 13, 04:22 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 23:59:36 -0600, "R. H. Breener"
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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
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I recently used a friend's Mac Book Pro for a couple of hours, and I
played
with his wife's Iphone for a bit. I say no thanks to both. I've never been
an Apple fan, and every time I touch an Apple product I'm reminded why.


What didn't you like about the MAC?


In short, it doesn't work the way I want it to work and in many cases, each
insignificant by itself but significant to me as a whole, it doesn't do what
I want it to do. My host at the time explained that the things that I
couldn't do were all things that I didn't really need to do. He was mostly
joking, I assume, but Apple has a culture of limiting what people can do
with their products, and that seemed to be present in spades. I experienced
the same feeling when I was trying to use her iPhone. It's certainly no
Android, that's for sure.

That's my subjective analysis. Objectively, if you can do the things that
you want to do and you can deal with the way it works, then it's probably a
fine choice for you.

For me, going shopping for a computer (or a smart phone) and coming home
with a Mac (or an iPhone) is a little like going shopping for a motorcycle
and coming home with a Vespa scooter. I just can't do it.

  #140  
Old December 13th 13, 07:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/13/2013, Wolf Kirchmeir posted:
As you can tell, I'm feeling curmudgeonly today.


That's OK, it somehow is cheering me up :-)

I pretty much agree with you and Char about the iMac that I had for a
while, but there were only a few programs that I couldn't find
satisfactory versions of, so I ran a VM of Windows (it was XP back
then).

Ironically when I went back to MS (it was Windows Vista, then 7, by
then) I still needed a virtual machine with XP to run a couple of
programs.

I never found a newsreader for Mac that I liked. The programs that
still need XP on Windows are for programmable remote controls from
Philips and from Universal Remote Corp, both no longer supported by the
mfrs. Another Mac problem was a bug that added a 100 Hz series of
spikes to audio captures via USB, a known bug that was never fixed
while I still used the Mac.

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  #141  
Old December 13th 13, 09:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/12/13 10:57 PM, R. H. Breener wrote:

"Ken Springer" wrote in message
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On 12/11/13 10:14 PM, R.H. Breener wrote:

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On 12/11/2013, R.H. Breener posted:
"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
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Per Juan Wei:


snip

You start by using a program that lets you make an emergency CD (AKA
recovery CD, etc.).

The same program? The recovery DVDs are made on the HP computer they come
on.I didn't catch a name of any particular program. The first step when
the
machine is new is to make the Recovery DVDs. You can only make one copy.
Unfortunately they don't always make the recalcitrant computer boot. Or
it
boots into a window that freezes and sits there.


OK, I'm going to try not to confuse the issue.

You don't say how old the HP computer is, and I'll assume it's Windows 8.

I had an HP Windows 7 computer for a short while. Given to me for repair
and donation to a worthy entity. So I did some playing with it.

I learned the hard way to not buy Memorex DVD's. They don't make them,
they contract out for them and have them branded with their name. I don't
know why, but the DVD's that were made by Ritek were definitely not worth
a crap. I don't know if it's Ritek as a whole, or just something went
wrong with that batch. Ritek does sell DVDs under their own name, the
ones I saw were in cheap sale bin/boxes at Micro Center.

So it's possible your set of DVDs are faulty due to faulty DVDs, not the
computer. It took me a while get this figured out.


I don't think that's the problem. These are all HP Invent DVDs. I have 3
computers, two with Vista and one with W7. The W7 is a little over a year
old. When I tried the Recovery disks, I got a screen that said they weren't
recognized.


HP Invent DVDs... Did they come with the computer, or did you make
them? If you used the W7 computer and made them, then I'm not convinced
the DVDs are good. I went through at least a dozen DVDs, probably more,
before finally figuring out the problem was the DVDs. Once I bought a
different brand, everything worked as it was supposed to.

If the DVD's are from HP, are we not assuming they are good?


If your computer does not have a lot of third party software installed and
you've just been using what came with the computer, you can do the
following if things work under Windows 8 the same as Windows 7...

System Recovery, that you access during boot up by using some function key
or option during boot up, will put your computer back to the way it when
you took it out of the box. No ifs, ands, buts, or exceptions from what I
can see.


Yeah, you're right, but sometimes System Recovery can't be accessed. That's
what ****es me off. You have the recovery disks, but they don't always make
the machine boot. Or you get a useless window that freezes. Or the black
window with the blinking line at the top left.


When you say "System Recovery can't be accessed", are you talking about
the DVDs or the recovery partition on the hard drive?


Copy all of your user data from the hard drive to a different physical
drive, even if you've partitioned it, just to be safe. Run System
Recovery at bootup, or whatever HP calls it, to reinstall Win 8 and you'll
be able to make another set of DVD's. I think I did this on the HP Win 7
computer 3 or 4 times before discovering the Ritek issue.

Once you have a set of DVDs that work, you can make all the copies you
wish the same way you make copies of music CD's. I think I made 2 extra
sets of those DVDs, and I tested them and they worked. I actually used a
different computer for this, while I played around and explored the HP
computer.


OK... got that. Of course the set I have wasn't recognized by the computer.


Maybe you should consider downloading and installing ImgBurn on one of
the computers. Then you can use ImgBurn to determine the manufacturer
of the DVDs.


At this point, you can go ahead and reinstall all your 3rd party software.
But, before you do that, read this article!
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...your-whole-pc/


The one that crashed was Vista, then a day or two later, the W7 refused to
boot. I'll bookmark that site as who knows, maybe W8 is inthe future. I
have been encouraged to get a MAC by the rest of the family. As their old
Windows machines die off they're getting MACS.


The Windows 7 Backup and Restore program is in Windows 8.0, I don't know
about 8.1. You may want to consider creating the System Repair disk and a
Windows System Image.


That's another thing that ****ed me off. The Repair disks didn't work either
and these disks were all made by these computers. I was able to run all the
HP tests on W7 and everything passed. I've come to the conclusion it was
either some kind of nasty scumware my anticrapware software wasn't finding,
or one of the MS-updates on W7. What makes me suspicious is when I would get
this thing booted, several anti-programs wouldn't run (I don't run them all
at one time) and System Restore wouldn't either. That doesn't sound like it
was caused by an update.


Every thing you are describing sounds like what was going on when I was
using the bad DVDs.

You can also set up the normal style Windows 7
Backup system here also, instead of, or I assume in addition to, Windows 8
File History backup. File history, as I understand it, is the same
principle as Time Machine on my Mac. There are pluses and minuses to
both, and Time Machine has solved problems with software screw ups for me
in the past.
If you make the System Image and the Repair Disk, you can use this to
reinstall Win 8 also.


OK, I don't have a System Image disk. Do you know how frustraiting is when
those other disks don't work? It was a stoke of luck to get his machine to
boot into safe mode this past week. Using what someone suggested,
Start/Run/System Restore saved the day. It had dates going back to October.
I chose one and that fixed all the problems like magic.


You won't have a single System Image disk, you'll have multiple disks
that contains a single system image. Alternatively, you could have the
image on a hard drive. Boot using the Windows 7 repair disk, and
restore the selected system image.

One advantage here is, you can take the computer
as it is right out of the box, do all the updates for everything that came
with the computer, then create the System Image. Now, should you have to
reinstall 8 for some reason, you can use the Repair Disk and System Image
to reinstall 8 instead of the Recovery Partition or the DVD's you made,
and have a fresh install of Windows 8 that's already got some of the
updates installed.


Thanks. This is good to know.




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  #142  
Old December 14th 13, 06:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 08/12/2013 23:28, R. H. Breener wrote:

"Johnny" wrote in message
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I have moved on to Linux Mint 16, and won't be using Windows again.
It does everything I need it to do, and it's fun to use.


My family is moving on to MACS. We're among the last ones hanging on to
Windows. After all these recent problems with Vista and W7, we may join
them when these computers w/Windows crash and burn for the last time. I
played with a friend's W8 for awhile and wasn't impressed.


If these other rumors are to be beleived...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...ext-10-2918476

....your family may be re-united anyway, even if you stay with Windows.
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Old December 14th 13, 08:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 12/14/2013 9:13 AM, occam wrote:
On 08/12/2013 23:28, R. H. Breener wrote:

"Johnny" wrote in message
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I have moved on to Linux Mint 16, and won't be using Windows again.
It does everything I need it to do, and it's fun to use.


My family is moving on to MACS. We're among the last ones hanging on to
Windows. After all these recent problems with Vista and W7, we may join
them when these computers w/Windows crash and burn for the last time. I
played with a friend's W8 for awhile and wasn't impressed.


If these other rumors are to be beleived...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...ext-10-2918476

...your family may be re-united anyway, even if you stay with Windows.


It may happen even sooner than anyone may imagine. There is already
sufficient cross-platform developments involving not only software but
hardware as well. Transitioning between Windows to Macs or vice versa
is common practice today and typical of every day use. The glue that
might bond them more closely could well be a reversion to a highly
user-friendly form of Unix. Hey, we're certainly going that way.

GR
 




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