What is an ospx file and why do people send them?

Steve Hayes wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:02:41 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:24:08 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:55:14 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:06:49 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:18:53 +0000, Mike Barnes
wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 11:28:04 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote:

| Now we've been and gone and come back, and I think the next step is to
| discover how to make Windoes 8 default "print to file" use a more useful
| format like .pdf.
|

I'm curious how you got in that position in the
first place. Printing a webpage through IE, maybe?
If you're on a Google maps page you should be
able to just right click the map and save as JPG.
There's no reason to print a whole page.
Quite possibly.

My wife has the computer with Windows 8, and I've never touched it.

She just found the map of the place she wanted to go to, saved it as a file,
and asked me to print it.
That's *one* approach to printing on a different PC, but I wouldn't
expect it to work very well unless you were very lucky.

Taking things one step at a time, why didn't she print it herself?
Because the printer is connected to my computer, not hers.
Why not just share the printer with her so she can print from it, too?
Because I don't know how to do that.

Window does not come with manuals, and even if it did, they probably would not
tell you how to share a printer attached to a Windows XP machi9ne with a
machine running Windows 8.
Well, there's this thing called the Internet. :-) But seriously, it should
be pretty straightforward.
1. Right-click on the printer and select Sharing... Follow the prompts.
2. On the other PC, you'll probably want to install a driver first, then
browse to the printer (you can browse to it now because it's shared), right
click on it and select Install... Follow the prompts. Print a test page to
be sure you're using the right driver.

If you do a search, you'll find more detailed instructions, sometimes with
screen shots, but the steps above are the basics and might be enough.

Will try.

Of course the printer driver might say it doesn't work on Windows 8. Some do.

And when you want a map and directions to a place you are leaving for in 2
hours time, there probably isn't time to find out. That is why I asked if
anyone knew of a way of printing a .oxps file, which I had never heard of
before,
The biggest takeaway should be to print to PDF rather than XPS. There are
lots of PDF print drivers, but I've been using CutePDF (free) for what seems
like 15 years. It just works.

That's probably the easiest thing. I have PDFactory, and it worked OK on a
Facebook page, which si quite complex, though it did split it into four pages
and cut some of the pictures in half.

This is one reason I like a print-to-file solution which supports
large pages.

The print driver should at least do Letter and Tabloid, as if it
were driving a real printer. I find the Tabloid 11"x17" print-to-file
covers a lot of web pages (the ones that don't wrap properly).

The print driver I use, the largest page you can define is
36" x 108". So if some web page is going off the screen,
you can accommodate the failings of the browser.

For example, using Firefox, I found a web site which was five
pages long. Only the first page would print, and the other four
pages were blank. By making a second attempt at printing, and
defining a page size large enough for the whole thing, I got
it as a single page. And then I had a printed copy. It would take
a lot of messing around, to do PrintScrn and make an image copy
instead.

Paul

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:56:35 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:37:57 +0000, Mike Barnes
wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:27:17 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:


We don't do a lot of printing -- ink is too expensive.


You might want to get a laser instead of an inkjet. They are much
cheaper to use, and if you don't need color, you can get a B&W laser
for around $80.

And IME inkjets are totally unsuitable when there are long periods
between printing. Ink dries up, and the printer needs to go through a
cleaning cycle that wastes several pages worth of ink. An inkjet might
be cheap to buy but that's because the manufacturer profits from
overcharging you for the ink.


Yes!


For occasional printing, get a laser.


Even for printing more often.


I totally agree with the advice to use a laser, but wow, what a testament to
how far technology has come in a relatively short time. Laser printers used
to be exotic and expensive. Now they're in the running as a better
alternative to the supposedly cheap kid on the block, the inkjets.


Here's another agreement, to both of you. I have two laser printers
here, one on my computer and one on my wife's. One is color (mine) and
one is B&W. Even though my wife's is B&W, she can use mine if she
needs color (which isn't very often).

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:57:53 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:40:45 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:27:17 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:


We don't do a lot of printing -- ink is too expensive.


You might want to get a laser instead of an inkjet. They are much
cheaper to use, and if you don't need color, you can get a B&W laser
for around $80.

I have one. The ink is still expensive, because you have to buy a complete new
cartridge, with a new roller as well. It's almost cheaper to buy a new
printer.


Calculate the cost of printing a page by dividing the cost of the ink
or cartridge by the number of pages it will produce. You will see that
the cost of printing with a laser (especially a B&W laser) is *much*
lower.

If it isn't much lower, you have an oddball expensive-to-use laser
printer.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:24:29 -0500, Fred Goldstein
wrote:

On 12/9/2014 4:24 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:55:14 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:06:49 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:18:53 +0000, Mike Barnes
wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:
On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 11:28:04 -0500, "Mayayana" wrote:

| Now we've been and gone and come back, and I think the next step is to
| discover how to make Windoes 8 default "print to file" use a more useful
| format like .pdf.
|

I'm curious how you got in that position in the
first place. Printing a webpage through IE, maybe?
If you're on a Google maps page you should be
able to just right click the map and save as JPG.
There's no reason to print a whole page.

Quite possibly.

My wife has the computer with Windows 8, and I've never touched it.

She just found the map of the place she wanted to go to, saved it as a file,
and asked me to print it.

That's *one* approach to printing on a different PC, but I wouldn't
expect it to work very well unless you were very lucky.

Taking things one step at a time, why didn't she print it herself?

Because the printer is connected to my computer, not hers.

Why not just share the printer with her so she can print from it, too?

Because I don't know how to do that.

Window does not come with manuals, and even if it did, they probably would not
tell you how to share a printer attached to a Windows XP machi9ne with a
machine running Windows 8.

This is a real issue. Windows is good about sharing printer drivers.
Hook up an XP machine to one that has a printer and it automagically
downloads the driver from the one with the printer, if it doesn't
already have it. But Windows XP and 8 use different, incompatible
printer drivers. So to print between the two, you need to install the
Win 8 driver on that machine, and then try to make it talk to the XP
printer across the network. Sometimes it works.

And when you want a map and directions to a place you are leaving for in 2
hours time, there probably isn't time to find out. That is why I asked if
anyone knew of a way of printing a .oxps file, which I had never heard of
before,

Credit to Microsoft for making themselves look even more foolish than
usual. They took their own proprietary obscure XPS format, put it into
XP where nobody used it, then changed it to an incompatible one in Win
8, as if having two incompatible forms of XPS would make it the
PDF-killer that it will never be. Ah, Win 8, otherwise known as Windows
ME 2. Good reason to wait for 10.

And having eventually discovered, long after the need for it had passsed, that
it is simply a virtual printer, like the dozens of free PDF ones, it will
actually be dead easy to replace it with one of those.

Of course if there was a proper manual it would give the game away, and make
life far too easy.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:46:42 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

And having eventually discovered, long after the need for it had passsed, that
it is simply a virtual printer, like the dozens of free PDF ones, it will
actually be dead easy to replace it with one of those.

Of course if there was a proper manual it would give the game away, and make
life far too easy.

I remember the days of proper manuals, and where I worked one set of manuals
went onto a shelf in our work area, another set of manuals went onto a shelf
in the 'back office' where the management guys had desks, and the dozens of
other sets went straight to the trash. I knew of absolutely no one,
including myself, who ever opened one of those manuals. YMMV

--

Char Jackson

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 01:45:24 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:46:42 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

And having eventually discovered, long after the need for it had passsed, that
it is simply a virtual printer, like the dozens of free PDF ones, it will
actually be dead easy to replace it with one of those.

Of course if there was a proper manual it would give the game away, and make
life far too easy.

I remember the days of proper manuals, and where I worked one set of manuals
went onto a shelf in our work area, another set of manuals went onto a shelf
in the 'back office' where the management guys had desks, and the dozens of
other sets went straight to the trash. I knew of absolutely no one,
including myself, who ever opened one of those manuals. YMMV

I suppose that's why no one minded when I took them home with me and read them
in the bath.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:46:42 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

And having eventually discovered, long after the need for it had passsed, that
it is simply a virtual printer, like the dozens of free PDF ones, it will
actually be dead easy to replace it with one of those.

Or just *add* the PDF printer. There's no need to replace anything; they
coexist peacefully.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:16:46 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:46:42 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

And having eventually discovered, long after the need for it had passsed, that
it is simply a virtual printer, like the dozens of free PDF ones, it will
actually be dead easy to replace it with one of those.

Or just *add* the PDF printer. There's no need to replace anything; they
coexist peacefully.

Yep. To elaborate, I'd install a pdf printer, and make that the default
printer. It's easy enough in XP and 7, so I don't suppose it will be too
difficult in 8.

The other one will still be there in case someone explicitly asks for an oxps
document.


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On 2014-12-06 17:17, Bert wrote:

In Good Guy
wrote:

html
head
meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type"
/head
body bgcolor="#FFFFCC" text="#000000"

What?


I think the new color is fine, it was really bad when it was pure
Fushia, lol ;-)

--
! _\|/_ Sylvain /
! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Foundation/EFF/Planetary-Society-+-
oO-( )-Oo Captain, why not just give the Borg Windows? -Worf

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:33:00 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-12-06 17:17, Bert wrote:

In Good Guy
wrote:

html
head
meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type"
/head
body bgcolor="#FFFFCC" text="#000000"

What?


I think the new color is fine, it was really bad when it was pure
Fushia, lol ;-)

Or even fuchsia?

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 2014-12-20 17:28, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:33:00 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-12-06 17:17, Bert wrote:

In Good Guy
wrote:

html
head
meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type"
/head
body bgcolor="#FFFFCC" text="#000000"

What?


I think the new color is fine, it was really bad when it was pure
Fushia, lol ;-)

Or even fuchsia?

Oops, did I mispell fuchsia? Hehe, sorry :-)
Thanks for pointing it out, I never knew it was written this way...
Now the questions is, will I remember it ;-)

--
! _\|/_ Sylvain /
! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Foundation/EFF/Planetary-Society-+-
oO-( )-Oo "Live Long And Suffer" - Ancient Vulcan Curse.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:12:26 -0500, B00ze/Empire
wrote:

On 2014-12-20 17:28, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:33:00 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

I think the new color is fine, it was really bad when it was pure
Fushia, lol ;-)

Or even fuchsia?

Oops, did I mispell fuchsia? Hehe, sorry :-)
Thanks for pointing it out, I never knew it was written this way...
Now the questions is, will I remember it ;-)

That reminds me, I once had a female friend hold out two curtain samples as
she asked, "Which do you like better, fuchsia or mauve?" At the time, I had
no idea which was which so I simply pointed and said, "This one."

As it turned out, I liked fuchsia better. :-)

--

Char Jackson

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:12:26 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-12-20 17:28, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:33:00 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-12-06 17:17, Bert wrote:

In Good Guy
wrote:

html
head
meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type"
/head
body bgcolor="#FFFFCC" text="#000000"

What?


I think the new color is fine, it was really bad when it was pure
Fushia, lol ;-)

Or even fuchsia?

Oops, did I mispell fuchsia? Hehe, sorry :-)
Thanks for pointing it out, I never knew it was written this way...
Now the questions is, will I remember it ;-)

The flower is apparently name after a German whose surname is Fuchs
(fox). The English pronunciation of fuchsia is a bit weird, IMO.

Anyway, now I dare you to forget how to spell it!

:-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:10:22 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:


The flower is apparently name after a German whose surname is Fuchs
(fox). The English pronunciation of fuchsia is a bit weird, IMO.

Anyway, now I dare you to forget how to spell it!


It's not just a flower or a color. Interestingly "fucshia" is also
occasionally a woman's first name. I own a couple of books by Fuchsia
Dunlop, a British writer of excellent Chinese cookbooks.

Hi, Gene.

As a college freshman, I read a beginner's book for students studying
German. The title was "Der Fuchs und der Veingarten". I might have it
wrong because it was over 60 years ago, but I had no trouble reading the
book, partly because of the illustrations. But mostly it was because I had
heard the fable of the fox and the "probably sour" grapes - and because the
German words in the book were so close to their English counterparts.

Still, it came as a surprise to learn a little later that English is a
Teutonic language, related much more closely to German than to Greek or
Latin, despite our heavy reliance on those ancient tongues. Since I'm no
linguist - although I do enjoy mild etymology - I'll leave further
observation and comments to the many experts here.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) in Win8.1 Pro with Media
Center


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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:12:26 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-12-20 17:28, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:33:00 -0500, B00ze/Empire wrote:

On 2014-12-06 17:17, Bert wrote:

In Good Guy
wrote:

html
head
meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type"
/head
body bgcolor="#FFFFCC" text="#000000"

What?


I think the new color is fine, it was really bad when it was pure
Fushia, lol ;-)

Or even fuchsia?

Oops, did I mispell fuchsia? Hehe, sorry :-)
Thanks for pointing it out, I never knew it was written this way...
Now the questions is, will I remember it ;-)

The flower is apparently name after a German whose surname is Fuchs
(fox). The English pronunciation of fuchsia is a bit weird, IMO.

Anyway, now I dare you to forget how to spell it!

:-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)