CCleaner Professional

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 03:15:20 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I had read many good things about CCleaner so I decided to add it to
one system to see how it behaved. Me being me I paid for the "better"
version and got some extra help I thought was nice. Referring back to
the condition of the second hand install with who knows what left over.
SO far nothing but I do like the report of what it removes when I leave
the internet. Together with Malewarebytes and Kaspershy Pure I feel
better than running naked.

Translations for the uninitiated:

Malewarebytes: Malwarebytes
Website: https://www.malwarebytes.org/
Notes: Maleware appears to refer to a form of men's clothing


Kaspershy Pu Kaspersky Pure
Website:
http://usa.kaspersky.com/products-services/home-computer-security/pure/
Notes: For people who like to pay when equivalents are free


--

Char Jackson

On 12/19/2014 3:03 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 03:15:20 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I had read many good things about CCleaner so I decided to add it to
one system to see how it behaved. Me being me I paid for the "better"
version and got some extra help I thought was nice. Referring back to
the condition of the second hand install with who knows what left over.
SO far nothing but I do like the report of what it removes when I leave
the internet. Together with Malewarebytes and Kaspershy Pure I feel
better than running naked.

Translations for the uninitiated:

Malewarebytes: Malwarebytes
Website: https://www.malwarebytes.org/
Notes: Maleware appears to refer to a form of men's clothing


Kaspershy Pu Kaspersky Pure
Website:
http://usa.kaspersky.com/products-services/home-computer-security/pure/
Notes: For people who like to pay when equivalents are free

For example?

I like having everything in one place. I like the password manager to
start my time online and find in general that free AV software always
has a price like nag screens to say the least.

Have you ever tried Kaspersky?

On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 03:26:10 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I saw no actual improvement but it did make me feel better.

Feeling better is always nice, but imagine how you'd have felt if the
computer failed to boot or applications were broken as a result of your
cleaning. The risks aren't worth it, if you ask me.

Why, would that happen? As I stated I have the install on one system
that has a clone waiting for emergencies. Have you had such a failure
that you can give account of? I've had to use regedit many times to
remove unwanted entries. What I see is CCleaner showing me my options
which I can refuse any action I want.

I like taking chances if the cost is low.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:20:00 -0500, . . .winston wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote:

Either he meant to type "ingenuous" or is confused about disingenuous.

But even if I take it to mean ingenuous, the usage confuses me too :-)


ingenious (as in its synonym = resourceful

'it would be more ingenious to realize'

I was probably packaging too much in one single word.

My reasons (right or wrong ) were - if needing it for future reference
or coffee-table conversation one would be more resourceful in the eyes
of others if they knew the real reason for the name change.

But do feel free to 'insert' any other word more appropriate that
increase one's (yours, others, mine) comfort zone....but choose the
right word otherwise it might just sound like 'C'rap. g

So were you punning on "(dis)ingenuous", or did you just not notice the
'u'?

Be aware that I won't mind it if you ignore my question :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:08:13 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/19/2014 3:03 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 03:15:20 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I had read many good things about CCleaner so I decided to add it to
one system to see how it behaved. Me being me I paid for the "better"
version and got some extra help I thought was nice. Referring back to
the condition of the second hand install with who knows what left over.
SO far nothing but I do like the report of what it removes when I leave
the internet. Together with Malewarebytes and Kaspershy Pure I feel
better than running naked.

Translations for the uninitiated:

Malewarebytes: Malwarebytes
Website: https://www.malwarebytes.org/
Notes: Maleware appears to refer to a form of men's clothing


Kaspershy Pu Kaspersky Pure
Website:
http://usa.kaspersky.com/products-services/home-computer-security/pure/
Notes: For people who like to pay when equivalents are free

For example?

I was hoping you'd ask about maleware, clothing for men.

I like having everything in one place. I like the password manager to
start my time online and find in general that free AV software always
has a price like nag screens to say the least.

Avira doesn't nag me.

Have you ever tried Kaspersky?

Not lately, and I see no need to do so when free alternatives are as good or
better.

--

Char Jackson

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:15:38 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 03:26:10 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I saw no actual improvement but it did make me feel better.

Feeling better is always nice, but imagine how you'd have felt if the
computer failed to boot or applications were broken as a result of your
cleaning. The risks aren't worth it, if you ask me.

Why, would that happen?

I was under the impression that you had 'cleaned' your registry. If so,
*that's* why that would happen.

As I stated I have the install on one system
that has a clone waiting for emergencies. Have you had such a failure
that you can give account of?

Do you mean a failure from a registry cleaner? Not lately, but there was an
incident many years ago with a program called, (I think), jvtools. After
using it on my registry, the PC refused to boot. I had a fairly lengthy
repair in front of me, as I recall. I've gotten smarter since then.

I like taking chances if the cost is low.

The cost may be low, but so is the benefit, while the risk is relatively
high.

--

Char Jackson

On 12/20/2014 1:52 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:08:13 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/19/2014 3:03 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 03:15:20 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I had read many good things about CCleaner so I decided to add it to
one system to see how it behaved. Me being me I paid for the "better"
version and got some extra help I thought was nice. Referring back to
the condition of the second hand install with who knows what left over.
SO far nothing but I do like the report of what it removes when I leave
the internet. Together with Malewarebytes and Kaspershy Pure I feel
better than running naked.

Translations for the uninitiated:

Malewarebytes: Malwarebytes
Website: https://www.malwarebytes.org/
Notes: Maleware appears to refer to a form of men's clothing


Kaspershy Pu Kaspersky Pure
Website:
http://usa.kaspersky.com/products-services/home-computer-security/pure/
Notes: For people who like to pay when equivalents are free

For example?

I was hoping you'd ask about maleware, clothing for men.

I was.


I like having everything in one place. I like the password manager to
start my time online and find in general that free AV software always
has a price like nag screens to say the least.

Avira doesn't nag me.

Have you ever tried Kaspersky?

Not lately, and I see no need to do so when free alternatives are as good or
better.

That's what I wanted to know. What free app has everything Kaspersky
has? How can you get any better? I'd be happy to install the software if
it was as good or better. I used AVG Free for years but got rid of it
for some reason. I know Comcast offers a free version of Norton I think
but I don't trust Comcast especially when they offer something for free.

PS.
I just did some searching and read reviews and there are many mixed
opinions so I guess the only real way to know is to test for yourself
again other apps on different systems.

I always believe you get what you pay for so who can complain about
something free. That may be the reason I always opt for the paid
version. After all, you can't take it with you.

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:34:38 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 06:20:29 -0700, Ken1943
wrote:

The main reason for Ccleaner is to remove "junk" files. For one thing,
having thousands of files in the "temp" directories using gigs of drive
space is crazy.

I'm not sure why that's crazy. With hard drive sizes these days, what's
crazy about 'wasting' a few gigs like that?


My way job is tech support, and about once a month I get a customer
whose sole problem is thousands of files in the temp folder confusing
Excel. I can't imagine why Excel has that vulnerability, but the
evidence is fairly conclusive:

1. An Excel add-in does not work.
2. Delete everything in temp folder (skipping the ones flagged by
Windows as in use.
3/ The Excel add-in now works fine.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:08:13 -0500, Al Drake wrote:
find in general that free AV software always
has a price like nag screens to say the least.


"in general" may or may not be right; I can't say. But "always" is
definitely wrong, unless you mean something quite different from the
usual meaning of "nag screen".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 06:08:05 -0500, Stan Brown wrote:

[answering why a bulging temp folder matters]

My way job is tech support, and about once a month I get a customer
^^^^^^^^^^ My DAY job

whose sole problem is thousands of files in the temp folder confusing
Excel.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On 12/20/2014 6:09 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:08:13 -0500, Al Drake wrote:
find in general that free AV software always
has a price like nag screens to say the least.


"in general" may or may not be right; I can't say. But "always" is
definitely wrong, unless you mean something quite different from the
usual meaning of "nag screen".

Yes, you're right. I stand corrected. Thank you. I guess can the terms
conflict a bit.

On 12/20/2014 2:01 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:15:38 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 03:26:10 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I saw no actual improvement but it did make me feel better.

Feeling better is always nice, but imagine how you'd have felt if the
computer failed to boot or applications were broken as a result of your
cleaning. The risks aren't worth it, if you ask me.

Why, would that happen?

I was under the impression that you had 'cleaned' your registry. If so,
*that's* why that would happen.

As I stated I have the install on one system
that has a clone waiting for emergencies. Have you had such a failure
that you can give account of?

Do you mean a failure from a registry cleaner? Not lately, but there was an
incident many years ago with a program called, (I think), jvtools. After
using it on my registry, the PC refused to boot. I had a fairly lengthy
repair in front of me, as I recall. I've gotten smarter since then.

I like taking chances if the cost is low.

The cost may be low, but so is the benefit, while the risk is relatively
high.

I will say that many of the advertised apps for sale usually start out
with a "Free Scan" and show how bad your system is then try to sell you
the fix. Now that I remember that's one of the reasons I dumped AVG
free. That and the spam window that would pop up. I've read so many
posts about avoiding reg cleaners but that was quite a while ago. What I
like about CCleaner is the options and nothing is done what doesn't meet
your approval.

I especially like the upgrade and added options. I always wanted to
clean out the event reports.

As I pointed out in my case I have SSD clones of every system just in
case of any risk. I haven't had a lengthy repair in a long time unless I
needed some recreation.

On 2014-12-17, Al Drake wrote:
A while back when I build my newest system based on the Intel Core
i7-4790K installed in a Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H with 32Gigs of Crucial
Ballistix Tactical Low Profile 32GB Kit I was in a rush and didn't want
to go through all the hassle of installing Win7 and all the apps so
nicely tuned on an AMD 6 core in an ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 so I used that
drive to see if it booted with the Intel Build. Well it did and
everything worked out fine. I thought I'd do it right after awhile but
it turned out that I never did and no longer need the AMD. I knew I had
a cluttered windows system so recently I happened to purchase CCleaner
Professional which seemed to remove all the DLLs hanging around although
I saw no actual improvement but it did make me feel better.

CCleaner Pro seems to e a nice little app and I don't know why I
didn't use it sooner.

Just thought I'd throw that in just for fun.
Al

Crap Cleaner Professional.
LMAO.
The **** people "need".
--
_____ _______ ____ __ __ _____ _
/ ____|__ __/ __ \| \/ | __ \ | |
| (___ | | | | | | \ / | |__) | | |
\___ \ | | | | | | |\/| | ___/ | |
____) | | | | |__| | | | | | |_|
|_____/ |_| \____/|_| |_|_| (_)

On 12/20/2014 8:28 AM, Godzilla wrote:
On 2014-12-17, Al Drake wrote:
A while back when I build my newest system based on the Intel Core
i7-4790K installed in a Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H with 32Gigs of Crucial
Ballistix Tactical Low Profile 32GB Kit I was in a rush and didn't want
to go through all the hassle of installing Win7 and all the apps so
nicely tuned on an AMD 6 core in an ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 so I used that
drive to see if it booted with the Intel Build. Well it did and
everything worked out fine. I thought I'd do it right after awhile but
it turned out that I never did and no longer need the AMD. I knew I had
a cluttered windows system so recently I happened to purchase CCleaner
Professional which seemed to remove all the DLLs hanging around although
I saw no actual improvement but it did make me feel better.

CCleaner Pro seems to e a nice little app and I don't know why I
didn't use it sooner.

Just thought I'd throw that in just for fun.
Al

Crap Cleaner Professional.
LMAO.
The **** people "need".


You mean like obnoxious sigs?

On 2014-12-20, Al Drake wrote:
On 12/20/2014 8:28 AM, Godzilla wrote:
On 2014-12-17, Al Drake wrote:
A while back when I build my newest system based on the Intel Core
i7-4790K installed in a Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H with 32Gigs of Crucial
Ballistix Tactical Low Profile 32GB Kit I was in a rush and didn't want
to go through all the hassle of installing Win7 and all the apps so
nicely tuned on an AMD 6 core in an ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 so I used that
drive to see if it booted with the Intel Build. Well it did and
everything worked out fine. I thought I'd do it right after awhile but
it turned out that I never did and no longer need the AMD. I knew I had
a cluttered windows system so recently I happened to purchase CCleaner
Professional which seemed to remove all the DLLs hanging around although
I saw no actual improvement but it did make me feel better.

CCleaner Pro seems to e a nice little app and I don't know why I
didn't use it sooner.

Just thought I'd throw that in just for fun.
Al

Crap Cleaner Professional.
LMAO.
The **** people "need".


You mean like obnoxious sigs?

Kind of.
Buying CCPro versus using the free version is like paying
someone to blow your nose.
--
_____ _______ ____ __ __ _____ _
/ ____|__ __/ __ \| \/ | __ \ | |
| (___ | | | | | | \ / | |__) | | |
\___ \ | | | | | | |\/| | ___/ | |
____) | | | | |__| | | | | | |_|
|_____/ |_| \____/|_| |_|_| (_)