CCleaner Professional

On 12/21/2014 4:34 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:44:16 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/20/2014 12:39 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 05:59:54 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/20/2014 1:52 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:08:13 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/19/2014 3:03 PM, Char Jackson wrote:

Translations for the uninitiated:

Malewarebytes: Malwarebytes
Website: https://www.malwarebytes.org/
Notes: Maleware appears to refer to a form of men's clothing


Kaspershy Pu Kaspersky Pure
Website:
http://usa.kaspersky.com/products-services/home-computer-security/pure/
Notes: For people who like to pay when equivalents are free

For example?

I was hoping you'd ask about maleware, clothing for men.

I was.

Oh, good, because this is the more humorous of the two pieces of this
thread. 'Male' refers to gender, while 'ware' might refer to something that
is for sale, so 'maleware' might refer to a product typically purchased by
or used by males. While it's arguably impolite to call out spelling
mistakes, in your case you've used the term 'maleware' repeatedly, so I
decided to have a bit of fun with it. What you're obviously looking for is
'malware', where 'mal' means bad and 'ware' means software, in this context.
Putting the two parts together gives you malware, a broad category of bad
software that includes viruses, trojans, rootkits, etc.


But you don't know for sure.

Oh no, I do know for sure. You're definitely talking about malware while
repeatedly calling it maleware. Never mind, maybe it's only humorous to me.

That's what I wanted to know. What free app has everything Kaspersky
has?

When you say "everything", what do you mean? That word conjures up mental
images of 'Internet Security Suites', which are about 92% unnecessary crap
bolted on to an anti-malware engine.

Why everything I need. This is all about me now, isn't it?

Everything I need isn't a valid requirement. Try again.

I always believe you get what you pay for so who can complain about
something free. That may be the reason I always opt for the paid
version. After all, you can't take it with you.

Fortunately for me, I never fell for the "you get what you pay for" trap.
Sometimes it's true, other times it's not, and it really pays to be aware
and know the difference.


One can never tell the difference sometimes until it's too late.

Which is it, never or sometimes? You can't have both.


It makes perfect sense to me. Sometimes you can never tell. Other times
you can.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:11:37 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/21/2014 4:34 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:44:16 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

One can never tell the difference sometimes until it's too late.

Which is it, never or sometimes? You can't have both.


It makes perfect sense to me. Sometimes you can never tell. Other times
you can.

In a land of language butchers, you two seem to have some rank. :-)

--

Char Jackson

On 12/21/2014 6:46 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 01:40:10 -0600, felmon wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:21:44 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2014-12-18 5:17 PM, felmon wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:45:40 -0600, philo wrote:


Dainty ears being troubled by the term "crap" would certainly enjoy
the "Cinderella" fairy tale's original name.


"Cinder-slut" would not have been a big Disney hit.
there seem to be diverse theories but to me the most plausible I've
found so far derives 'puttel' (German for 'Cinderella' is Aschenputtel)
from a old word, 'putteln', which means digging around in sand, or in
this case, ashes.
That would make it a relative of "putter around",both derived from the
root of "put", I think..
not being a linguist I don't know but I definitely share your impression.

F.
My dictionary (American Heritage) says putter is probably an alteration
of "potter", frequentative of "poten" (to poke or push), from Old
English "potian".

So when the hub complains he missed a 3 foot putt, I can tell him he's a
lousy potian?

On 12/21/2014 11:58 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:11:37 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

On 12/21/2014 4:34 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:44:16 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

One can never tell the difference sometimes until it's too late.

Which is it, never or sometimes? You can't have both.


It makes perfect sense to me. Sometimes you can never tell. Other times
you can.

In a land of language butchers, you two seem to have some rank. :-)

Butchering is in these days. Just cut yourself off a slab.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:34:15 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:
Oh no, I do know for sure. You're definitely talking about malware while
repeatedly calling it maleware. Never mind, maybe it's only humorous to me.


It was a funny-once for me, like "gay weedings".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 05:27:54 -0500, DMP wrote:

On 12/21/2014 6:46 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 01:40:10 -0600, felmon wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:21:44 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2014-12-18 5:17 PM, felmon wrote:
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:45:40 -0600, philo wrote:


Dainty ears being troubled by the term "crap" would certainly enjoy
the "Cinderella" fairy tale's original name.


"Cinder-slut" would not have been a big Disney hit.
there seem to be diverse theories but to me the most plausible I've
found so far derives 'puttel' (German for 'Cinderella' is Aschenputtel)
from a old word, 'putteln', which means digging around in sand, or in
this case, ashes.
That would make it a relative of "putter around",both derived from the
root of "put", I think..
not being a linguist I don't know but I definitely share your impression.

F.
My dictionary (American Heritage) says putter is probably an alteration
of "potter", frequentative of "poten" (to poke or push), from Old
English "potian".

So when the hub complains he missed a 3 foot putt, I can tell him he's a
lousy potian?

Not the same word. It is given as a variant of put, which has different
origin, in the same dictionary.

But nonetheless, I think you *should* say that, so as to confuse him
utterly :-)

Lots of words now sound alike in spite of their different original
forms. It's supposed to keep us on our toes (although that doesn't work
for me, thanks to a neuropathy).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:23:15 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:50:14 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:03:39 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 03:15:20 -0500, Al Drake wrote:

I had read many good things about CCleaner so I decided to add it to
one system to see how it behaved. Me being me I paid for the "better"
version and got some extra help I thought was nice. Referring back to
the condition of the second hand install with who knows what left over.
SO far nothing but I do like the report of what it removes when I leave
the internet. Together with Malewarebytes and Kaspershy Pure I feel
better than running naked.

Translations for the uninitiated:

Malewarebytes: Malwarebytes
Website: https://www.malwarebytes.org/
Notes: Maleware appears to refer to a form of men's clothing

Kaspershy Pu Kaspersky Pure
Website:
http://usa.kaspersky.com/products-services/home-computer-security/pure/
Notes: For people who like to pay when equivalents are free

I'd also like to mention that a number of radio news announcers talk
about "mallware", which strikes me as clothing to go shopping in :-)

Yeah, I know, I should have (1) spelled it "mallwear" and (2) not
mentioned it in the first place ;-)

I probably should have followed your latter advice, myself. Now he wants me
to teach him about online security. Ugh!

Use my approach: I've pretty much abdicated knowing anything about
security. I just use whichever AV or suites annoy me the least, since it
is so easy to find reviews that absolutely contradict other reviews.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:53:26 +0900, BobbyM
wrote:

On 12/18/2014 3:44 PM, Nil wrote:
On 17 Dec 2014, Peter Jason wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

I found it increased shutdown time considerably, so I got rid of
it.

Since it's intended to be run on demand, it should have nothing at all
to do with shutdown time. The only option I can think of that might
affect that would be its new Monitoring feature, which has only been
available for the past few weeks, and can be turned off.

I think your shutdown "problem" was due to something else.

Right, the newest version of CCleaner does start up by default, but it's
a simple click to stop it from starting when Windows starts.

I had a rethink about all this. Now I use "InPrivate Browsing" with
IE11, Privacy Guard with East-tec eraser, I have EMET5 installed, and
I run ADW cleaner occasionally, and the MS security essentials on
'full scan'. Also I run Malwarebytes manually (with care to use
'quarantine' mode because sometimes it swallows a *.dll file), and for
deep cruising on the Dark Web I use a separate OS on a SSD connected
to my usual hardware, all bitlockered. For removing programs I use
Revo Uninstaller pro.