All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad.
http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg

It's not "my" WinXP machine, and the owner decidedly doesn't want to
install iTunes (for all the reasons everyone already knows so we
certainly don't need to hash them out here for the umpteenth time).

I only need a couple of roughly 1GB MP4 files copied over from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad by the easiest way possible. Both devices are on the
same local subnet.

When I connect the iPad to the WinXP machine by USB cable, the iPad
shows up, but the document hierarchy (particularly that of VLC) does
not show up. (http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg)

On the iPad, it keeps asking to trust this computer (which I have OK'd
very many times - but the iPad just keeps asking and asking and asking).

If bluetooth works on the iPad, or if WiFi works on the iPad, I'd be
very happy, just as happy if the USB cable would just work on the iPad.

This task should have taken about a minute, but after a half hour of
trying, I still haven't been able to mount the iPad onto WinXP to
copy the two MP4 files over.

If all I want to do is bring over a couple of MP4 files from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad VLC private documents directory, what's the easiest
way to accomplish this when both devices are on the same network?

Werner Obermeier wrote:
All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad.
http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg

It's not "my" WinXP machine, and the owner decidedly doesn't want to
install iTunes (for all the reasons everyone already knows so we
certainly don't need to hash them out here for the umpteenth time).

I only need a couple of roughly 1GB MP4 files copied over from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad by the easiest way possible. Both devices are on the
same local subnet.

When I connect the iPad to the WinXP machine by USB cable, the iPad
shows up, but the document hierarchy (particularly that of VLC) does
not show up. (http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg)

On the iPad, it keeps asking to trust this computer (which I have OK'd
very many times - but the iPad just keeps asking and asking and asking).

If bluetooth works on the iPad, or if WiFi works on the iPad, I'd be
very happy, just as happy if the USB cable would just work on the iPad.

This task should have taken about a minute, but after a half hour of
trying, I still haven't been able to mount the iPad onto WinXP to
copy the two MP4 files over.

If all I want to do is bring over a couple of MP4 files from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad VLC private documents directory, what's the easiest
way to accomplish this when both devices are on the same network?


Dropbox or some other cloud service should do it.

Ed

Werner Obermeier wrote on 8/2/2015 1:48 AM:
All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad.
http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg

It's not "my" WinXP machine, and the owner decidedly doesn't want to
install iTunes (for all the reasons everyone already knows so we
certainly don't need to hash them out here for the umpteenth time).

I only need a couple of roughly 1GB MP4 files copied over from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad by the easiest way possible. Both devices are on the
same local subnet.

When I connect the iPad to the WinXP machine by USB cable, the iPad
shows up, but the document hierarchy (particularly that of VLC) does
not show up. (http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg)

On the iPad, it keeps asking to trust this computer (which I have OK'd
very many times - but the iPad just keeps asking and asking and asking).

If bluetooth works on the iPad, or if WiFi works on the iPad, I'd be
very happy, just as happy if the USB cable would just work on the iPad.

This task should have taken about a minute, but after a half hour of
trying, I still haven't been able to mount the iPad onto WinXP to
copy the two MP4 files over.

If all I want to do is bring over a couple of MP4 files from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad VLC private documents directory, what's the easiest
way to accomplish this when both devices are on the same network?

Can you put them on a USB on the iPad? I know the XP has USB ports, so you can easily put it on a thumb drive. You
just need the usb adapter for the iPad.

I like the cloud idea though.

On 2015-08-02 01:48, Werner Obermeier wrote:
All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad.
http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg

It's not "my" WinXP machine, and the owner decidedly doesn't want to
install iTunes (for all the reasons everyone already knows so we
certainly don't need to hash them out here for the umpteenth time).

- Dropbox
- Box
- Evernote
- E-mail

Your Name wrote in
:

There's possibly some piece of third-party software you could install to
give full access (there is for newer OSes), but the computer's owner may
not like that either.

On "my" Linux box, it just works (with MTP).
On this Windows box, it just does not work (at all).

I'm hoping there is an MTP driver that I can load for Windows to make
it work like it should, which is exactly how it works on Linux.

- Email them to yourself as attachments
Too big. Each MP4 is just under a GB.

- Upload them to web-storage space / your iCloud account

No desire for a cloud when they are only inches apart.

- Copy them onto a CD and use another computer with iTunes

Absolutely no will or desire to deal with iTunes just to copy
over two files. I prefer an MTP driver on Windows that works
just like it does on Linux.

This is really a Windows problem, and not so much an iPad issue
since all we need is a decent driver on Windows that works like
you'd expect it to.

On 8/2/15 7:03 AM, Big Al wrote:
Werner Obermeier wrote on 8/2/2015 1:48 AM:
All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad.
http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg

It's not "my" WinXP machine, and the owner decidedly doesn't want to
install iTunes (for all the reasons everyone already knows so we
certainly don't need to hash them out here for the umpteenth time).

I only need a couple of roughly 1GB MP4 files copied over from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad by the easiest way possible. Both devices are on the
same local subnet.

When I connect the iPad to the WinXP machine by USB cable, the iPad
shows up, but the document hierarchy (particularly that of VLC) does
not show up. (http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg)

On the iPad, it keeps asking to trust this computer (which I have OK'd
very many times - but the iPad just keeps asking and asking and asking).

If bluetooth works on the iPad, or if WiFi works on the iPad, I'd be
very happy, just as happy if the USB cable would just work on the iPad.

This task should have taken about a minute, but after a half hour of
trying, I still haven't been able to mount the iPad onto WinXP to
copy the two MP4 files over.

If all I want to do is bring over a couple of MP4 files from WinXP
SP3 to the iPad VLC private documents directory, what's the easiest
way to accomplish this when both devices are on the same network?

Can you put them on a USB on the iPad? I know the XP has USB ports, so you can easily put it on a thumb drive. You
just need the usb adapter for the iPad.

I like the cloud idea though.

I would suggest the Dropbox idea also, but you may want to read these
articles first: https://www.dropbox.com/help/topics/mobile

I don't know what you mean by "mount" the iPad. If you mean you would
have an icon on the desktop for the iPad just as you would for an
external drive, it doesn't work that way AFAIK. After all, the iPad is
a computer.

I don't own an iPad, so I don't know the intricacies of it, but what you
can do depends on whether it's an iPad 1, 2, or 3. But all should have
Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi built in. My 5.5 year old iMac has both built in.

I know you don't want to use iTunes, but I'd bet that's going to be your
easiest route. It should already be on the iPad. I don't own any Apple
devices, so don't know how the syncing works.

Dropbox or similar would be my cloud choice if you have an account. I
don't care that much for the way it works between computers either, but
I don't use the account for those purposes anyway.



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Firefox 36.0.4
Thunderbird 31.5
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and it's gone!"

Ed Cryer wrote in :

Dropbox or some other cloud service should do it.

Seems like intense overkill for traveling five inches.

Using dropbox for a simple file transfer is sort of like dropping
a nuclear bomb on a gopher hole. Sure, it works, but it's overkill.

What I'm really looking for is an MTP driver for Windows that works
just like it does on Linux.

On Linux, it's this easy:
1. You connect the iPad to the USB port of the Linux machine.
2. Automatically, the iPad is mounted as two mount points.
3. You copy (or move) the files from Linux into VLC on the iPad.

It's that easy, on Linux, because of the MTP drivers.
It's not that easy on Windows, for some strange reason.

So, what I'm really looking for are just the Windows XP MTP drivers.

Big Al wrote in :

Can you put them on a USB on the iPad?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm....... That might work if it works.

Is something like this what you had in mind?
https://img.fasttechcdn.com/128/1286901/1286901-4.jpg

I'm not sure what that means to 'put them on USB on the iPad' because
the iPad doesn't have traditional USB ports. Do these iPad USB ports
work?
http://img.linkdelight.com/productme...4015_show1.jpg

I know the XP has USB ports, so you can easily put it on a thumb
drive.

I solved the problem just now using sneakernet, but I was hoping for
a better way, simply by locating MTP drivers for Windows XP SP3.

You just need the usb adapter for the iPad.

Hmmmmmm.... I did not know there even was a USB adapter for the iPad!

I like the cloud idea though.

Using the cloud to transfer a file five inches is sort of like nuking a
gopherhole. Sure, it works. But it's as bad an idea as iTunes.

Sneakernet worked fine, but I was just looking for a better (read easier
and quicker way, without loss of privacy or the addition of bloatware
to someone else's PC (and without the need for the second laptop).

I like the idea of the USB port for the iPad.
Does anyone have experience with these for copying files from WinXP?
http://imore.com/sites/imore.com/fil..._connector.jpg

Do iPad USB connectors work with Windows to allow simply copies?

Alan Browne wrote in
:

- Dropbox
- Box
- Evernote
- E-mail

One of those ideas is a good one, which I thank you for suggesting.

It's overkill to nuke a gopherhole just as it's overkill to resort to
setting up a cloud account and disassembling it afterward just to copy
two MP4 files from Windows five inches over to an iPad.

E-Mail won't easily work because each MP4 is about 800Mbytes in size.

However, googling, I see Evernote is a program which allows "drag and drop",
which is *exactly* what I want to do.
http://michaelhyatt.com/how-to-get-y...-evernote.html
https://blog.evernote.com/blog/2013/...t-of-evernote/
http://restartgtd.com/howto/how-to-d...note-notebook/

The only problem with Evernote, that I can see anyway, is that it's a
lot of setup just to copy two files.

To be fair, I just solved the problem using sneakernet, but, I was hoping
for a simpler solution that didn't involve a second laptop for copying
two large files from Windows to the iPad.

All I really want/need is an MTP driver for Windows that just works.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 13:49:51 +0000 (UTC), Werner Obermeier
wrote:

Ed Cryer wrote in :

Dropbox or some other cloud service should do it.

Seems like intense overkill for traveling five inches.

Using dropbox for a simple file transfer is sort of like dropping
a nuclear bomb on a gopher hole. Sure, it works, but it's overkill.

What I'm really looking for is an MTP driver for Windows that works
just like it does on Linux.

On Linux, it's this easy:
1. You connect the iPad to the USB port of the Linux machine.
2. Automatically, the iPad is mounted as two mount points.
3. You copy (or move) the files from Linux into VLC on the iPad.

It's that easy, on Linux, because of the MTP drivers.
It's not that easy on Windows, for some strange reason.

So, what I'm really looking for are just the Windows XP MTP drivers.

You seem to be opposed to any idea that isn't exactly how you think it
should work. Why are you so against using the program/drivers
intended for your need? (Yes, the drivers get installed with iTunes.)
Just install iTunes, use it to get the job done, and then delete it.
It is not some monster that destroys computers. Many love it. Some
hate it - just like any other software package. I think it is bloated
and easily confuses non-tech users, but it works and can do what you
need for free. A lot of the other ideas presented here work, too. Or,
you can just keep complaining about how stupid everything is. Your
choice.

On 2015-08-02 13:39:56 +0000, Alan Browne
said:

On 2015-08-02 01:48, Werner Obermeier wrote:
All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad.
http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg

It's not "my" WinXP machine, and the owner decidedly doesn't want to
install iTunes (for all the reasons everyone already knows so we
certainly don't need to hash them out here for the umpteenth time).

- Dropbox
- Box
- Evernote
- E-mail

....and iMazing
https://imazing.com

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Regards,

Savageduck

Ken Springer wrote in
:

I don't know what you mean by "mount" the iPad. If you mean you would
have an icon on the desktop for the iPad just as you would for an
external drive, it doesn't work that way AFAIK. After all, the iPad is
a computer.

That's a good question, especially since Windows users may not be used
to "mounting" devices as logical drives.

On Windows, if you plug in, oh, say, an optical DVD disc drive, you'll
notice it's automatically "mounted" as, oh, say, "Drive E:". Likewise,
if you plug in, oh, say, a USB stick, it's automatically mounted as, oh,
say, "Drive F:", labeled "My USB Stick".

It's the same when you plug in an iPad into Linux. It automatically
gets mounted as "iPad" and as "Documents". All the pictures and videos
and screenshots are in the "iPad" mount point, while many of the users
documents are in the "Documents" mount point.

These mount points act just like USB sticks do, in that you can copy
any file on the iPad over to the Linux machine and vice versa, you can
copy any file from the Linux machine over to the iPad, and it all just
works.

All I want is that same five-second-copy convenience for Windows XP.

I don't own an iPad, so I don't know the intricacies of it, but what you
can do depends on whether it's an iPad 1, 2, or 3. But all should have
Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi built in. My 5.5 year old iMac has both built in.

You hit the nail on the head!

On Android, for example, it would be trivial to use Bluetooth or WiFi to
or from the mobile device and laptop. The task would have been done in
five or ten seconds.

It's no so easy with an iPad because it's a very rigidly closed system,
so, that is why I am asking for help and advice.

I know you don't want to use iTunes, but I'd bet that's going to be your
easiest route. It should already be on the iPad. I don't own any Apple
devices, so don't know how the syncing works.

The so-called iTunes on the iPad isn't even close to the iTunes that is
on Windows - but you are wholly correct in that nobody would want to load
that thing onto someone else's Windows machine *just* to copy over a
couple of files.

If it were Android, it would just work by WiFi or Bluetooth, natively,
so, that might be an option with the iPad (if WiFi or Bluetooth work).

If it were Linux, it would also just work because Linux has MTP drivers
which make the iPad a USB device, so, it's as easy as copying over
a file to or from a USB stick.

The problem is that it's Windows, which I don't know all that well.

The only three viable Windows:iPad options I can think of a
1. MTP drivers for Windows to mount the iPad
2. Bluetooth from Windows to the iPad
3. WiFi from Windows to the iPad

Dropbox or similar would be my cloud choice if you have an account. I
don't care that much for the way it works between computers either, but
I don't use the account for those purposes anyway.

Using dropbox will work but it's like using hand grenades on gopher
holes. Too much overhead, too much effort, and too much disassembly
for simply copying two files from Windows to the iPad.

Bear in mind that I just did the copy today, and it took seconds, but
I had to use sneakernet to put the files on a USB stick from Windows
and then to put those files onto Linux. Linux has MTP drivers, so,
I then just copied the files from Linux to the iPad over the USB
cable that comes with the iPad.

But, there must be an easy way to transfer the files from Windows
directly to the iPad without having to resort to sneakernet or
hand grenades.

Werner Obermeier wrote in :

All I really want/need is an MTP driver for Windows that just works.

Actually, it looks like three viable solutions were proposed:
1. MTP drivers for windows that just mount the iPad as a USB device
2. WiFi transfer of the files from Windows to the iPad
3. Bluetooth transfer of the files from Windows to the iPad

Does anyone have any of those three options working yet?

In article , Werner Obermeier
wrote:

All I want to do is bring two MP4 files from WinXP to iOS 7.1.1 iPad.
http://i.imgur.com/FO0rSM8.jpg

It's not "my" WinXP machine, and the owner decidedly doesn't want to
install iTunes (for all the reasons everyone already knows so we
certainly don't need to hash them out here for the umpteenth time).

then he's an idiot, both for avoiding itunes and for still running xp,
as are you for making it *much* more complicated than it needs to be.

the solution is trivial:
install itunes.
sync.
done.

itunes isn't going to screw up the computer. it's by far the easiest
way to move music and other content to the device.

On 2015-08-02 13:46:29 +0000, Werner Obermeier said:

Your Name wrote in
:

There's possibly some piece of third-party software you could install to
give full access (there is for newer OSes), but the computer's owner may
not like that either.

On "my" Linux box, it just works (with MTP).

That figures.

On this Windows box, it just does not work (at all).

I'm hoping there is an MTP driver that I can load for Windows to make
it work like it should, which is exactly how it works on Linux.

- Email them to yourself as attachments
Too big. Each MP4 is just under a GB.

- Upload them to web-storage space / your iCloud account

No desire for a cloud when they are only inches apart.

Silly attitude, Dropbox and Box will do the job.

- Copy them onto a CD and use another computer with iTunes

Absolutely no will or desire to deal with iTunes just to copy
over two files.

Silly attitude, iTunes is the best way to get this done.

I prefer an MTP driver on Windows that works
just like it does on Linux.

Of course you do.

This is really a Windows problem, and not so much an iPad issue
since all we need is a decent driver on Windows that works like
you'd expect it to.

Oh well!


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Regards,

Savageduck