Win 7 Pro - Recycle Bin View Setting Changed

For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown.

Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but
the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles.

Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to
mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are
still the way I want them.

Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term?

DC

wrote:
For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown.

Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but
the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles.

Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to
mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are
still the way I want them.

Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term?

DC

Does the folder have a desktop.ini file ?

The desktop.ini file is a text file with a couple
of lines of text in it. It will mention "shell32.dll"
as well as a number. And the number indicates the
"kind of view" that file explorer is supposed
to use. And shell32.dll (or whatever file it names
there), is the piece of software that renders
the view.

My guess is, a desktop.ini was created, when none
was desired. And you can't very well throw it
in the trash, because it is already in the trash.
And the trash is a Reparse Point, and the actual
storage of trash is on each separate partition
(C: trash is stored on C: drive, D: trash is
stored on D: drive).

It would be "slightly tricky" to remove.

And my experience with desktop.ini, is the
view does not change back. If you throw 100%
images into the trash, it might mistakenly switch
to image library view. And show you thumbnails etc.
If you then throw 100% text files into the trash,
it isn't smart enough to switch out of image library
view.

I don't know the solution, but those are possibly
some of the ingredients. You're working in a
tricky spot, with potential "looping" conditions.
Ideally, you would want to issue "del somepath\desktop.ini"
from a Command Prompt window, but the question then is,
what is the value of "somepath" ? I haven't a clue.
I'm not even sure, if I had a Linux LiveCD, whether I
could locate and remove the correct desktop.ini file.
There could be a couple hundred of those on C:.

Are we having fun yet ? :-)

Paul

On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 17:23:04 -0400, Paul wrote:

wrote:
For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown.

Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but
the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles.

Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to
mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are
still the way I want them.

Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term?

DC

Does the folder have a desktop.ini file ?

The desktop.ini file is a text file with a couple
of lines of text in it. It will mention "shell32.dll"
as well as a number. And the number indicates the
"kind of view" that file explorer is supposed
to use. And shell32.dll (or whatever file it names
there), is the piece of software that renders
the view.

My guess is, a desktop.ini was created, when none
was desired. And you can't very well throw it
in the trash, because it is already in the trash.
And the trash is a Reparse Point, and the actual
storage of trash is on each separate partition
(C: trash is stored on C: drive, D: trash is
stored on D: drive).

It would be "slightly tricky" to remove.

And my experience with desktop.ini, is the
view does not change back. If you throw 100%
images into the trash, it might mistakenly switch
to image library view. And show you thumbnails etc.
If you then throw 100% text files into the trash,
it isn't smart enough to switch out of image library
view.

I don't know the solution, but those are possibly
some of the ingredients. You're working in a
tricky spot, with potential "looping" conditions.
Ideally, you would want to issue "del somepath\desktop.ini"
from a Command Prompt window, but the question then is,
what is the value of "somepath" ? I haven't a clue.
I'm not even sure, if I had a Linux LiveCD, whether I
could locate and remove the correct desktop.ini file.
There could be a couple hundred of those on C:.

Are we having fun yet ? :-)

Paul

Thanks Paul. I'll keep looking for ideas and let you know if I solve
it.

DC

On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:42:00 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 15:35:21 -0500, wrote:

For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown.

Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but
the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles.

Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to
mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are
still the way I want them.

Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term?

DC

Denny,

There are a couple of things you can try; MS publishes a "FIXIT" that can automatically diagnose and repair
file and folder problems including the type of problem you are experiencing. See:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...der_diag/en-us


OR, you can try to fix it manually. Take a look at these instructions:

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...-view-settings

Let me know if any of this helps.

SN

Thanks SN. I just found a few others too. Since this is just a
nuisance, not a crisis, I'll review them carefully before I try
anything. Don't want to dig the hole any deeper.

DC

wrote:
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 17:23:04 -0400, Paul wrote:

wrote:
For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown.

Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but
the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles.

Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to
mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are
still the way I want them.

Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term?

DC
Does the folder have a desktop.ini file ?

The desktop.ini file is a text file with a couple
of lines of text in it. It will mention "shell32.dll"
as well as a number. And the number indicates the
"kind of view" that file explorer is supposed
to use. And shell32.dll (or whatever file it names
there), is the piece of software that renders
the view.

My guess is, a desktop.ini was created, when none
was desired. And you can't very well throw it
in the trash, because it is already in the trash.
And the trash is a Reparse Point, and the actual
storage of trash is on each separate partition
(C: trash is stored on C: drive, D: trash is
stored on D: drive).

It would be "slightly tricky" to remove.

And my experience with desktop.ini, is the
view does not change back. If you throw 100%
images into the trash, it might mistakenly switch
to image library view. And show you thumbnails etc.
If you then throw 100% text files into the trash,
it isn't smart enough to switch out of image library
view.

I don't know the solution, but those are possibly
some of the ingredients. You're working in a
tricky spot, with potential "looping" conditions.
Ideally, you would want to issue "del somepath\desktop.ini"
from a Command Prompt window, but the question then is,
what is the value of "somepath" ? I haven't a clue.
I'm not even sure, if I had a Linux LiveCD, whether I
could locate and remove the correct desktop.ini file.
There could be a couple hundred of those on C:.

Are we having fun yet ? :-)

Paul

Thanks Paul. I'll keep looking for ideas and let you know if I solve
it.

DC

There's an example here. Later OSes, the desktop.ini
file becomes more complicated. But it could be
responsible for the "view" in the trash.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/

So I fired up a Win7 virtual machine. Put some files
in the trash as a marker, tried to mess up the view (but
didn't get your results), booted Linux and navigated here.
As I have a fair idea where I'm going to find it. It'll be
down in my SID.

/media/mint/0674B4CC74B4C02B/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3342901484-1885727002-3431902271-1000/desktop.ini

In Linux, when you click the Win7 C: drive, it mounts
it with a disk identifier it could find, rather than using
the label I didn't happen to put on the partition. So clicking
the partition, gives us this much of the path. In Linux, you
use the "df" command to see the currently mounted partitions
(the ones you clicked to open).

/media/mint/0674B4CC74B4C02B

The $Recycle.Bin is presumably the trash (because I could
find the discarded files in there).

This identifier, is the SID (security identifier) of the account.

S-1-5-21-3342901484-1885727002-3431902271-1000

If you need to see the defined accounts, in an elevated
(administrator) Command Prompt window, you can do this to list them
while you're still in Windows.

wmic useraccount get name,sid

But on this machine, there is only one user account and
the "1000" on the end is usually the primary user account.

Now in that folder, I could find "desktop.ini". I'm working in
Linux (Linux Mint Mate 17.1 x32), and permissions and visibility
are not a problem there. I don't need to use Tools : View
or change any attrib to make the file visible there. These
were the contents - kinda surprising, as I was expecting
more lines of text to be present.

[.ShellClassInfo]
CLSID={645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}
LocalizedResourceName=@%SystemRoot%\system32\shell 32.dll,-8964

If I wanted to stop that view from being used, I would
just delete the desktop.ini file (this would likely ruin the
Trash Can icon). In Linux that would be

rm /media/mint/0674B4CC74B4C02B/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3342901484-1885727002-3431902271-1000/desktop.ini

and then it is gone.

Another interesting thing, was the contents of the folder, the
deleted files. There were two files for every file chucked
into the trash. I used some 107MB TIFF files, and for
every file discarded, a small (544 byte) file was also created.
And in that file, is the "path" of the original file. So the small
file tells the software, how to put the file back if the user
wants to do that. Both the large file and small file would
be removed, when you select empty trash in Windows.

So I did manage to successfully find the file I was looking for.
If you happen to find the errant desktop.ini, open it with
the Linux text editor, and record what is in there. As I'm curious
as to what "view" it got stuck in.

Now, I found the same desktop.ini file here in this thread.

http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...us-579725.html

And that tells me that the "-8964" is what is used to cause
the Trash Can to be drawn. So whatever is buggering up
the thing, *might* be any *additional* lines of text in
the file.

If you find just this bit

[.ShellClassInfo]
CLSID={645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}
LocalizedResourceName=@%SystemRoot%\system32\shell 32.dll,-8964

then there is no reason to delete it. Whatever state it's in,
it would need to be additional lines of stuff messing it up.
While you can find and edit that file in Windows, it'll require
some amount of messing around to get at it. To be traded off
against figuring out how to use a Linux LiveCD :-)

The only reason I'm fixated on that file, is I don't know any
other storage places off hand, to store the view info. There
are the ShellBags, but I thought those stored icon position.
Navigating to the above file, is where I'd look first, for
an answer. But further work may be required.

If I could reproduce your current view, that would make
it easier to locate. The VM I'm using right now is a
throwaway, and as soon as I delete the .vhd file, all
my changes are gone. I keep compressed clean ones, for
the next experiment.

Paul

On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 15:35:21 -0500, wrote:

For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown.

Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but
the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles.

Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to
mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are
still the way I want them.

Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term?

DC

At the moment the view setting is being remembered by Win 7, so I'm
going to leave it alone and see if it lasts.

However, I think I found the fix, if I need it, This article explains
why Win 7 would not retain a view setting for a folder, and it gives
the choice of an easy fix (patch) or an automatic repair.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/window...-view-settings

The original detailed manual fix or the automatic repair of that and
other explorer issues is he

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/813711

If I need to try one of these (I'm assuming I will), I'll report back.

DC

On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 15:35:21 -0500, wrote:

For 3 years my recycle bin view (when opened) was Details. Recently
it changed, for reasons unknown.

Now it opens in the Tiles view. I can change it back to Details but
the next time I open it, it goes back to Tiles.

Googled it but could not find a solution that works. I don't want to
mess with the All Folders settings because all my other folders are
still the way I want them.

Has anyone else had the problem and solved it for the long term?

DC

I think it's finally fixed. Been working fine for 3 days, after
running MicrosoftFixit.WinFileFolder.MATSKB.Run.exe downloaded from
the Microsoft Fix it Run Now link on this page:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/813711

It's a 339KB file that let's you choose automatic operation or you can
let it find the problem(s) and choose what you want to fix. I
selected the latter and let it fix the View Settings for folders.
Could not have been easier.

DC