Forced Win10 download

I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case

Mayayana wrote on 9/10/2015 5:13 PM:
I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case


I'm not.

On 10-Sep-2015 17:13, Mayayana wrote:
I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case



Not me. I have Windows Update set to "Never check" On my Win8.1 and Win7
computers.

Interesting.
MS is getting to everyone it seems.

My very old Fujitsu laptop running Win XP must be Win 10 compatible
since upon checking the Fujitsu web site I find that there are Win 10
drivers ready for download.

I thought I was safe with an old laptop and Win XP. lol

But what is worse, Fujitsu has removed the Win XP drivers for this
laptop and now has the minimum of Vista drivers. Ouch!

Soon my Android phone will offer Win 10. Don't you know! lol

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Mayayana wrote:

I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing Windows Update to run
has accepted that Microsoft is taking over their computer, but in
case anyone's interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are now
receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the owners will be [at
minimum] nagged to install Win10 once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case

Didn't happen to me; however, I do not install Microsoft's bogus
"updates" that are only applicable for migration to Windows 10 or for
Microsoft to spy on you (e.g., Windows Client updates for
"compatibility", telemetry updates). I don't have the KB3035583 update
(the "Get Windows 10" app) that is nothing but lureware to prod users to
move to Windows 10, along with several other updates that have NOTHING
to do with Windows 7 and everything to do with Windows 10 migration.
Perhaps by not accepting all those bogus Windows Update Client updates
that I avoided the one that turns it into an adware channel.

Occasionally Microsoft's updates phuck up the toolbars that I added the
Windows taskbar: all the toolbars disappear and I have to re-add them.
While the folder for each toolbar still exists, I have to add the
toolbars and rearrange and resize them. Happens about 3-4 times a year.
Happened in this week's Patch Tuesday round of updates. That would've
been tolerable (**** happens) except then my permissions got screwed up.
Programs, like games, that would launch from shortcuts before now popped
up a message that I needed admin privs. Uh huh. Using "run as admin"
didn't help. Changing my security group membership from several
security groups to just one (Administrator - that was one of my
account's security group memberships) didn't help. Rebooting didn't
help. Wasn't interested in working of fixing their **** up so I
restored from an image backup saved on Mondary morn and everything
working just fine now. I won't be applying any of Microsoft's updates
again for another month while I wait for them to fix (release new
versions or issue amending patches) whichever ones caused the **** up.

I also noticed Microsoft is now combining targets for their patches.
Several security updates for apps included "single signon for ADAL"
which is for Windows (ex., KB308552 = Signon ADAL + Excel); see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_sign-on.

Considering Microsoft dropped mainstream support for Windows 7 back in
Feb 2015, and because of their combined patches (if you want the good
part then you have to take the bad part), and because they push patches
for programs that are NOT installed (Skype, Lync, OneDrive for Business
which is NOT the same as OneDrive, MS Access), and because of their
pushing to change Windows 7/8 to advertising platforms (aka adware) for
Windows 10, I've decided not to even check for updates until I decided
to trial them but only after making a full image backup of the OS
partition. I currently have WU set to "notify only" but I'm going to
turn that off completely.

Microsoft has tried or succeeded to burn me many times with their
inappropriate, faulty, wrongly targeted, or Win10 bait patches. Time to
cease the invasion. I'll have to plan an evening for when to save an
image backup and spend time researching all the updates to decide which
ones are applied and which are hidden (which only lasts until Microsoft
pushes a new version of the same update).

Microsoft is trying to turn Win7/8 into Win10 adware platforms but they
are also pushing other crap in their updates that I don't want, don't
need, and can't use in my home PC setup. Not only will I have to
research every update they offer in the future, I figure it's time to
review every update I retrieved before.

OldGuy wrote:


Soon my Android phone will offer Win 10. Don't you know! lol

I would be careful not to make jokes about that.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows...ndroid-phones/

There is also IoT Win10 for Raspberry PI 2. Which has
an Arm Quad Core inside.

Paul

Mayayana wrote on 09/10/2015 5:13 PM:
I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case



Probably of value to read and understand the supposed quoted statement.

Microsoft told us: "For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic
updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for
Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade."

Afiak, MSFT never stated it wouldn't offer the update to 10 to
qualifying o/s.
One of the GWX app features was for reserving Win10 and placing the
device in a queue, not a yes/no choice that the update.

I've yet to see anyone who removed 3035583 properly and continues to
hide it receive the bits when WU is set (and prove it) to full notify
(notify before download *and* install).



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On 10/09/2015 23:32, Big Al wrote:
Mayayana wrote on 9/10/2015 5:13 PM:
I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case



I'm not.


Yes. I think this can happen but it's a bug -- some mistake in one of
Microsoft's many updates to the GWX stuff.

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In article , (Big Al) wrote:

*From:* Big Al
*Date:* Thu, 10 Sep 2015 18:32:30 -0400

Mayayana wrote on 9/10/2015 5:13 PM:
I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.



http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...soft-is-downlo
ading-windows-10-to-your-machine-just-in-case


I'm not.

Nor am I, but I didn't allow the relevant updates to install.

Regards
John ) Remove the obvious to reply...

Brian Gregory wrote:
On 10/09/2015 23:32, Big Al wrote:
Mayayana wrote on 9/10/2015 5:13 PM:
I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case




I'm not.


Yes. I think this can happen but it's a bug -- some mistake in one of
Microsoft's many updates to the GWX stuff.


One way to tell, would be to examine config.xml, and notice
if there are new status variables in there. Like "sneak in
Win10" TRUE.

Paul

| Yes. I think this can happen but it's a bug -- some mistake in one of
| Microsoft's many updates to the GWX stuff.
|

Did you read the article? It may not be curently
happening on all machines with AU enabled, but
MS says they're doing it:

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Microsoft told us: "For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic
updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for
Windows 10 by downloading the files they'll need if they decide to upgrade.
"When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows
10 on the device.

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 18:32:30 -0400, Big Al wrote:

I'm not.

I'm not either, but I've disabled automatic updates. I also prevented
KB3035583 (and others) to install.

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On 10-Sep-2015 23:31, . . .winston wrote:
Mayayana wrote on 09/10/2015 5:13 PM:
I'm guessing that anyone who's still allowing
Windows Update to run has accepted that Microsoft
is taking over their computer, but in case anyone's
interested: *All* Win7-8 machines on dripfeed are
now receiving all of Win10, with the plan that the
owners will be [at minimum] nagged to install Win10
once the downloads are finished.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...e-just-in-case




Probably of value to read and understand the supposed quoted statement.

Microsoft told us: "For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic
updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for
Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to
upgrade."

Afiak, MSFT never stated it wouldn't offer the update to 10 to
qualifying o/s.
One of the GWX app features was for reserving Win10 and placing the
device in a queue, not a yes/no choice that the update.

I've yet to see anyone who removed 3035583 properly and continues to
hide it receive the bits when WU is set (and prove it) to full notify
(notify before download *and* install).



Well it happened to me. I have never reserved it and the crap was on my
computer which i deleted 2 says ago when i noticed it.
....and I'm not the only one.

And quit being a Msft shill.

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft...rved-it-or-not

http://tinyurl.com/ngdagcn

I've yet to see anyone who removed 3035583 properly and continues to
hide it receive the bits when WU is set (and prove it) to full notify
(notify before download *and* install).


I don't think we're disagreeing. The article says Microsoft
is pushing Win10 installers onto Win7 machines where
automatic updates are enabled. You're saying it won't
happen if one persistently blocks at least some updates.
If you read my original post, I said this is a warning for
anyone who's allowing Microsoft to run AU dripfeed on
their machine.

Personally I've never allowed AU on any machine. If I
thought Windows Update was worthwhile I'm not sure
what I'd do now. From the discussion I've seen here it sounds
like selectively running Windows Update on Win7 is becoming
a losing battle. People may have to choose between locking
the door and letting in Win10-as-a-service. (Of course, that
only applies to the few people who track updates and inspect
each one before installing. Those people, if they want security
patches, will have no choice but to keep remaining vigilant and
looking for news about which updates might be hiding tricks,
as Microsoft re-issues their trojan horses with different patch
numbers and varying levels of official "criticalness".)

On 11/09/2015 15:02, Jonas Q wrote:

And quit being a Msft shill.

Are you unaware that he's a Microsoft MVP?

It's not a secret! ;-)

Look he- http://bit.ly/1LnVzUg

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