Is there a way to set Num Locks so that they are always on?

If you're asking about how to set the num lock to numbers at boot...you can set
that function in the bios. During boot, go to setup or whatever and set the
fuction to always boot with num lock on.
R. Wink

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:29:15 +0100, Mandy Liefbowitz
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:27:38 -0400, chicagofan
wrote:

T wrote:
On 09/20/2015 12:12 PM, chicagofan wrote:
Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 19:17:11 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Mike Easter writes:
What? Aren't we talking about the working or non-working of the
keypad
number keys?
Yes. Try this: open a text file in any editor (such as you might be
using to post a followup to this post). Have your cursor in the middle
of the text somewhere, now type 1995 say, as if you were typing the
year. But, "accidentally" turn off num lock before you type the 1995.
You will find your cursor is miles from where it was, and there's
probably a spurious "5" somewhere unexpected too.
Okay, so, out of sheer intellectual curiosity, I tried this. My KB
has a separate numbers keypad so I wasn't sure what would happen.
With NL off: the "1" key goes to the end of the line of text. As I
was at the beginning of the new-text insert line this didn't actually
do anything. The cursor was already at the end of that line. Then the
"9" key zapped my cursor half-way up this message. Then the "8" key
moved it up another line. Then the "5" key did absolutely nothing.No
matter how often I pressed it it was a null key.
With NL *on*: I get "1985" without the quote marks. As one would
expect. This actually surprised me. I didn't know it but I have had
NumLock *ON* for *decades* on dozens of keyboards and many, many
machines.
One learns new things every day.
I haven't read this whole thread, so I'm wondering if someone told you
that the 7 key would take you to the top of your page, as the 1 key
takes you to the bottom? That's how I usually find out that I have
mistakenly unlocked my num keys, when I use the shift key and try to
move to the top or bottom of a page.
bj



turn Num Locks on

press the "7" with a long finger nail such that you also
hit the num lock key again

keep pressing keys with no idea you just tuned num lock off

Sorry, I wasn't addressing the O/P problem ... and I do understand the
problem with hitting the num lock key in error, because I have a
different keyboard [for me] and the light grey ID is illegible. I don't
know if I hit it when I'm trying to hit the delete key or the backspace
key, but I hit it often enough for it to be annoying.
I'm having a hard time adjusting to the shift and differences in this
keyboard obviously.

I was just chiming in about Mandy saying she had just learned about the
9 and 8 keys, and wondered if she already knew about 7 and 1.

She probably did. Once. In 1723 or thereabouts. It has been a long,
long time since I have needed or wanted to even *use* the number pad.
I think the last time I did was when I was typing phone numbers for
modems in Win-3.1 or so.
I don't think I have ever used it in any OS apart from Win/DOS since
pteranodons went off the menu.
I *can* read, but I don't think I bother looking at the number
keypads very often.
On a 102 keyboard there are probably at least 20 keys I rarely if
ever use. Including F1
Mand.


bj

On 09/22/2015 11:59 AM, Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
Have you ever tried to teach music to someone who just can*NOT*
learn how to read those funny lines and wiggles and E's and flatty
sharpy things?
Which is just about*everyone*.
Apart, obvious, from born musicians.

Hi Mandy,

Funny!

As a kid, I was trained in Classical Piano.

I college, I set my hard courses (calculus, etc.) against music
courses so I would not go out of my mind. To me the Music
courses were just fun and a nice oasis from the stress.
(I put myself thought college while working full time
as an engineer.)

But not to others. They thought music courses were suppose to
be easy. They nearly melted down when they got to reading
music. The head of the department, which taught several
of the music courses I took, ask me why I had such an easy
time of it and why he had to fail so many other students.
I explained to him what I was doing. It was like expecting
someone to learn a foreign language to someone who really
did not want to learn and thought the course was suppose
to be easy. He did not like the answer, but he understood.

I remember in composition using 9th and 11th to make him
playing back my stuff on his piano to the class so hard he
would goof up and/or shed a tear. He took one look at my
stuff, pulled out his violin, and played the melody.

I protested that it was written it for piano! He pointed
at it and we both had a good chuckle. No one else in
the class got the joke. Once he played the cord, low note
to high note one at a time on his violin. No one got
that joke either. Man, I really worked at making
those composition hard to play too!

I aced all my music courses.

Yes there is a link between programmers and classical music!

I ramble.

-T

The department head wanted me to major in music. I told him
he was missing the point: there were two types of folks
in music. 1) those who create it (him) and 2) those that
pay those to create it (me). Without me, there would be
no him. He loved it!

I loved to listen to him play. Artists sense this and
it gives them extra encouragement -- like a second wind.
We need each other.

I am rambling again, aren't I.

On 09/22/2015 01:18 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Indeed. Even with good intentions. I remember one lecturer when I was at
university who was quite willing to spend time giving extra classes for
those of us who found his subject difficult: the problem was, indeed,
that he didn't find it difficult, and he wasn't easily able to "come
down to our level", as it were. Or my brother teaching my mother
something technical: "I don't understand what you don't understand."
(Which sentence itself rather appealed to Mum, who was a languages
person; she often quoted it.)

And you know what, when you succeed, you get that extra sprint
in your step!

One of my tricks it to look for their eyes to gloss over.
Then I know I am over their heads.

On 09/22/2015 11:59 AM, Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
When I see people struggling with the basic idea of typing into a
browser's address space instead of the*search* box I remember my lack
of skills in plumbing, plastering, music, mining, geology and a some
millions of languages and I sympathise.
What we do isn't*easy*.

I love your attitude. Often times I am dealing with customers
that have specialized skills I could not even approach. Showing
a little heart can win you a long term friend.

My keyboard has settings to disable the ones that are commonly disliked,
such as caps lock. It is a logitech iof you want to know. But it is fairly
easy to do without that.

In message , Johnbee
writes:

My keyboard has settings to disable the ones that are commonly
disliked, such as caps lock. It is a logitech iof you want to know.
But it is fairly easy to do without that.

Switches, or software?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A clean, neat and orderly desk is a sign of a sick mind. (G6JPG's mind is
clearly extremely healthy ...)

In alt.windows7.general message ,
Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:43:58, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
posted:

2. Many laptop and netbook keyboards, of course, don't have a numpad,
and in those cases you may _want_ numlock turned off. (I struggled
using it to insert special characters, but eventually found AllChars
covered most of the ones I wanted to use, and Diacrit the few others.)
Even some 15" widescreen laptop keyboards are padless.

Another method is to write a local HTML page, put your special
characters in it, suitably annotated/spaced, and display it in a browser
for easy drag'n'drop when you feel the urge to write in Foreign.
Likewise for any words that you're not quite sure of the spelling of,
such as Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch.

--
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Web - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.

In message id, Dr J R
Stockton writes:
In alt.windows7.general message ,
Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:43:58, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
posted:

2. Many laptop and netbook keyboards, of course, don't have a numpad,
and in those cases you may _want_ numlock turned off. (I struggled
using it to insert special characters, but eventually found AllChars
covered most of the ones I wanted to use, and Diacrit the few others.)
Even some 15" widescreen laptop keyboards are padless.

Another method is to write a local HTML page, put your special
characters in it, suitably annotated/spaced, and display it in a browser
for easy drag'n'drop when you feel the urge to write in Foreign.

Hm. Opening browser, opening special page, accurately moving the cursor
- Diacrit is a bit easier, but I find AllChars by far the simplest.

Likewise for any words that you're not quite sure of the spelling of,
such as Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch.

(-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

live your dash. ... On your tombstone, there's the date you're born and the
date you die - and in between there's a dash. - a friend quoted by Dustin
Hoffman in Radio Times, 5-11 January 2013

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Subject: Was : Is there a way to set Num Locks so that they are always on? Now special characters

Dr J R Stockton writes:

Subject: Was : Is there a way to set Num Locks so that they are always on?

Gentlemen: That is NOT the correct way to change ('was') a subject.

It wasn't even a 'good'/great subject in the first place. The subject
is NOT the place to ask 'the question'. The message body is where a
properly substantiated question should be asked, and the subject should
be a terse title for the content of the OP body that contains the question.

The OP fortunately DID have the question in the body; the subject
/could/ have been something title-ish like 'Locking NumLock' or such.


--
Mike Easter

In message , Mike Easter
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Subject: Was : Is there a way to set Num Locks so that they are
always on? Now special characters

Dr J R Stockton writes:

Subject: Was : Is there a way to set Num Locks so that they are always on?

Gentlemen: That is NOT the correct way to change ('was') a subject.

It wasn't even a 'good'/great subject in the first place. The subject
is NOT the place to ask 'the question'. The message body is where a
properly substantiated question should be asked, and the subject should
be a terse title for the content of the OP body that contains the
question.

The OP fortunately DID have the question in the body; the subject
/could/ have been something title-ish like 'Locking NumLock' or such.


Things change. I know - my brother is associate editor on the OED, and,
contrary to what lots of people think, (most) dictionaries record how
language _is_ used, not how someone thinks it _should_ be. However much
that irritates pedants (including me!).

Usenet also changes. A subject "Locking NumLock" would be puzzling to
many - I for one would probably have skipped it; "Is there a way to set
Num Locks so that they are always on?", however, was to me immediately
understandable, without having to open any of the posts to see what
they're about.

_Changing_ a subject line is always a thorny question. So many people
don't bother at all, which with thread drift - which happens, and isn't
necessarily to be condemned, especially if gradual - can result in posts
about something completely different to the subject line. Of course, the
usual response is that one should start a new thread; however, if people
have been following a thread, then they might not follow the new one
(they might, for example, have tagged the thread as "interesting" - or
whatever term their newsreader uses - and thus not see the new one). I
_usually_ try at least to change the thread title; I know _that's_ not a
complete answer either, partly because some news software always
displays threads (sometimes always, sometimes only if not expanded)
under their _original_ title.

Telling people how to behave is generally not well received [even if you
call them/us "gentlemen" (-:] - but, I know, I'm doing it. But I
definitely disagree with "The subject is NOT the place to ask 'the
question'." - at least today; that might have been the case once, though
I doubt it. I would agree that the subject line should be as _short_ as
possible (though not at the expense of clarity).

(-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

While no one was paying attention, weather reports became accurate and the
news became fiction. Did not see that coming. - Scott Adams, 2015

Mike Easter brought next idea :
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Subject: Was : Is there a way to set Num Locks so that they are always on?
Now special characters

Dr J R Stockton writes:

Subject: Was : Is there a way to set Num Locks so that they are always on?

Gentlemen: That is NOT the correct way to change ('was') a subject.

It wasn't even a 'good'/great subject in the first place. The subject is NOT
the place to ask 'the question'. The message body is where a properly
substantiated question should be asked, and the subject should be a terse
title for the content of the OP body that contains the question.

The OP fortunately DID have the question in the body; the subject /could/
have been something title-ish like 'Locking NumLock' or such.

Easter, you need to get laid. Showing the women your Net Cop badge
might impress them...... ya never know.

Software.

In alt.windows7.general message ,
Mon, 28 Sep 2015 07:35:16, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
posted:

In message id, Dr J
R Stockton writes:
...
Another method is to write a local HTML page, put your special
characters in it, suitably annotated/spaced, and display it in a browser
for easy drag'n'drop when you feel the urge to write in Foreign.

Hm. Opening browser, opening special page, accurately moving the cursor
- Diacrit is a bit easier, but I find AllChars by far the simplest.


Ah, but you write the page once (with subsequent amendments as your
needs change) using a reasonably large font, and when you feel an urge
to write Foreign you open the page at the section for that type of
Foreign, and, with your editing window beside your browser window you
can copy'n'paste or drag'n'drop quite quickly, 0x0B87 suggest.

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Web - FAQish topics, acronyms, & links.