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So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick
tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. -- -- No signature --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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Around $250.00 OldGuy wrote on 9/21/2015 7:55 PM: So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. |
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On 22/09/2015 00:55, OldGuy wrote:
So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. The next step is definitely to get to your nearest Geek Guys shop and ask him if he could change the Motherboard for you cheaply. If not then you will need to buy a new machine. The signs are that the machine is kaput. If it can't start by pressing the power button once and normally without using any force then the machine is dead. I have noticed that you have been having problems for the past 3 to 4 weeks and you haven't made any progress yet. Do you not think that it is time to take some rest and think of buying a new machine? Me think so. |
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OldGuy wrote:
So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. What brand and model of computer is this? Without knowing that, I would remove the RAM and clean the contacts, then install it and try it again. Also is the CMOS battery good? Some computers have a problem if it is not. If you have another power supply, I would try it. A weak PS with low current also produces some strange problems. Start with the easy fixes before looking for the complex. |
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On 9/21/2015 8:27 PM, Ken wrote:
OldGuy wrote: So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. What brand and model of computer is this? Without knowing that, I would remove the RAM and clean the contacts, then install it and try it again. Also is the CMOS battery good? Some computers have a problem if it is not. If you have another power supply, I would try it. A weak PS with low current also produces some strange problems. Start with the easy fixes before looking for the complex. Ken, It's a LAPTOP. Regards, Rene |
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On 9/21/2015 6:54 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 9/21/2015 8:27 PM, Ken wrote: OldGuy wrote: So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. What brand and model of computer is this? Without knowing that, I would remove the RAM and clean the contacts, then install it and try it again. Also is the CMOS battery good? Some computers have a problem if it is not. If you have another power supply, I would try it. A weak PS with low current also produces some strange problems. Start with the easy fixes before looking for the complex. Ken, It's a LAPTOP. Regards, Rene I like to learn. What specifically is not laptop relevant? |
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mike wrote on 09/21/2015 11:15 PM:
On 9/21/2015 6:54 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 9/21/2015 8:27 PM, Ken wrote: OldGuy wrote: So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. What brand and model of computer is this? Without knowing that, I would remove the RAM and clean the contacts, then install it and try it again. Also is the CMOS battery good? Some computers have a problem if it is not. If you have another power supply, I would try it. A weak PS with low current also produces some strange problems. Start with the easy fixes before looking for the complex. Ken, It's a LAPTOP. Regards, Rene I like to learn. What specifically is not laptop relevant? Laptops use batteries and/or AC adapters - not power supplies -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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OldGuy wrote:
So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. My guess is, by getting the unit to boot once, whatever was on there (malware wise), has finished the job it started. I would pull the hard drive and do an offline scan of the contents while using another computer. This tool, for example. This makes bootable media, which you use to boot your technician computer, and do an offline scan of the cabled-up laptop drive. It can scan the hard drive MBR, as well as the partitions. http://support.kaspersky.com/8092 Paul |
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That's nitpicking, if it supplies power then it's a power supply!
Kenny ". . .winston" wrote in message ... mike wrote on 09/21/2015 11:15 PM: On 9/21/2015 6:54 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 9/21/2015 8:27 PM, Ken wrote: OldGuy wrote: So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. What brand and model of computer is this? Without knowing that, I would remove the RAM and clean the contacts, then install it and try it again. Also is the CMOS battery good? Some computers have a problem if it is not. If you have another power supply, I would try it. A weak PS with low current also produces some strange problems. Start with the easy fixes before looking for the complex. Ken, It's a LAPTOP. Regards, Rene I like to learn. What specifically is not laptop relevant? Laptops use batteries and/or AC adapters - not power supplies -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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Kenny wrote:
That's nitpicking, if it supplies power then it's a power supply! Kenny There are some minor distinctions. The ATX Power supply makes voltage intended for immediate consumption. The +12V from the ATX Power supply operated the 3.5" hard drive motor. The +5V operates some of the logic ICs on the hard drive controller board. The ATX supply makes +12V, +5V, +3.3V, -5V (deprecated), -12V, +5VSB. At one time, it might have been possible to build a motherboard, with almost no secondary regulation at all on it. As at one time, processors ran at relatively high voltages. And that set of six voltages could power the motherboard directly. A certain amount of that has changed over the years. Logic IC core voltages have dropped considerably. The core operates on a power-saving low voltage, while the I/O pins operate on the selected I/O voltage (maybe 3.3V for general purpose CMOS-type signals). But plenty of high-speed I/O operates at much lower voltages. Many of those special cases require secondary regulators on the motherboard. The DIMMs have secondary regulators. And the CPU uses "voltage of the week", as up to a certain point, the CPU voltage was dropping to around 1V for the core, whereas with Haswell, Intel bumped the external voltage back upwards, while internally the FIVR regulator of Haswell made a very precise voltage for the CPU core. The power supply also contributes to system operation, by delivering a signal called power_good, and the ATX motherboard won't run until power_good is asserted. The power supply then, monitors successful power supply atartup, and tells the motherboard to go ahead after around 35 milliseconds or so. The laptop adapter doesn't do that. (There is no separate wire in the harness with a power_good on it.) ******* The constraints on the laptop adapter: 1) (almost) no intention to power primary systems from the DC voltage selected for adapter operation. 2) Upper limit on DC voltage set by SELV. In appliances you're not allowed to use excessively dangerous voltages, without a lot of extra protection mechanisms. For example, it would be "very efficient" for the laptop adapter to just rectify the AC line voltage and deliver 300V DC or more over the adapter cable. But that value would be higher than is safe. Even with extra insulation, and safety disconnect features, there would be too much insurance liability for a company like Dell. 3) The higher the voltage, the lower the cable current, and the thinner the cable can be (until SELV or similar rules force a thicker insulation to be used). So when the adapter makes 19V at 3 amps, the 19V doesn't run the disk drive motor. All sorts of secondary regulation is on the motherboard. What the 19V can be applied to, is the battery charging circuit, providing enough headroom to implement the constant current/constant voltage charging phases for the battery chemistry. If the battery is nominally 14.40V, a 19V potential makes a reasonable choice for building a charging circuit. The other thing the laptop adapter can have, is a more precise current limit. Since it only outputs one voltage, the circuit is better controlled. (On the majority of ATX supplies, the transformer turns ratio establishes the voltage relationships, and the feedback mechanism responds to the movement of all outputs at the same time. It's actually very sloppy, and has an relatively large cross-loading spec to allow for a heavily loaded rail to adversely affect the lightly loaded rails, and the system still works.) Due to the quite-different purposes and design requirements, it helps to have a different name for them. Even if people don't initially realize that it might be important. I certainly wouldn't have made the distinction above, without being forced to think about it :-) Paul ". . .winston" wrote in message ... mike wrote on 09/21/2015 11:15 PM: On 9/21/2015 6:54 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 9/21/2015 8:27 PM, Ken wrote: OldGuy wrote: So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. What brand and model of computer is this? Without knowing that, I would remove the RAM and clean the contacts, then install it and try it again. Also is the CMOS battery good? Some computers have a problem if it is not. If you have another power supply, I would try it. A weak PS with low current also produces some strange problems. Start with the easy fixes before looking for the complex. Ken, It's a LAPTOP. Regards, Rene I like to learn. What specifically is not laptop relevant? Laptops use batteries and/or AC adapters - not power supplies |
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:54:29 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Ken, It's a LAPTOP. Regards, Rene Strange how so many of these 'missing the point' posts come from people named 'Ken something'. |
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It happens that . . .winston formulated :
Laptops use batteries and/or AC adapters - not power supplies Clueless *******! LOL! |
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Kenny wrote on 09/22/2015 5:25 AM:
". . .winston" wrote in message ... Laptops use batteries and/or AC adapters - not power supplies That's nitpicking, if it supplies power then it's a power supply! Kenny Totally different and limited purpose. An AC adapter in the case of the early reply to replace the power supply (i.e. replace the laptop power supply - battery or ac adapter ) is not even relevant. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience |
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On 9/21/2015 10:04 PM, . . .winston wrote:
mike wrote on 09/21/2015 11:15 PM: On 9/21/2015 6:54 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 9/21/2015 8:27 PM, Ken wrote: OldGuy wrote: So let's say the laptop will power on, show the power on light and tick tick the CD but nothing shows on the screen and the HDD light does not flash. If I then put in a CD and then power off and hard boot but it will not load anything from the CD? CDs tried contained: Linux Mint Macrium Reflect Free 6 Recovery Disk specifically for this laptop. Will bad HDD hold it up? Will CMOS hold it up? This laptop did boot all the way to Win 7 (Win 7 looked good) once after many retries but will not boot again. Next step suggestions please. What brand and model of computer is this? Without knowing that, I would remove the RAM and clean the contacts, then install it and try it again. Also is the CMOS battery good? Some computers have a problem if it is not. If you have another power supply, I would try it. A weak PS with low current also produces some strange problems. Start with the easy fixes before looking for the complex. Ken, It's a LAPTOP. Regards, Rene I like to learn. What specifically is not laptop relevant? Laptops use batteries and/or AC adapters - not power supplies Yeah. When I communicate, I try to use terminology that is relevant to the USER in HIS context. It does no good to argue irrelevant issues. So, the answer to my question was simple...NOTHING is not relevant... but to remove the double negative to make it easier...It was ALL relevant. Happy nitpicking... |
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